Calibrating...Need Help!

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Calibrating...Need Help!

I need some help from those of you who are calibrated. I'm having a difficult time. I got a Spyder2Express for free from someone over on ILP, and I'm trying to calibrate. I'm not sure it calibrated correctly. I haven't been told that my photos look green, but they're looking green now on the screen, and on a color managed browser (Firefox).

This one looks terribly green and washed out now. Does it look green to you?


21 by Stephanie.Miller, on Flickr

Here is a screenshot. Firefox on the left and Internet Explorer on the right. What I think looks right is the IE image.


screenshot by Stephanie.Miller, on Flickr

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I am at work on uncalibrated monitor, haha, so take this with a grain of salt. I will check again once I get home. The first picture doesn't look green at all. For the second set the IE looks better colorwise than the firefox. I think you have to adjust the firefox to do the color correct. I forget what it is.

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Here's the image in PSE compared to Firefox. I think they look pretty much the same.


screenshot1 by Stephanie.Miller, on Flickr

I've done the calibration twice now, and everything is coming up green. Does my siggy look green to you? Cause it looks REALLY green to me now.

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Hmmm... it doesn't look green on my uncalibrated monitor at work. I am using FireFox. I would warm up your picture you edited as it looks a bit washed out.

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Not calibrated here (still trying to figure it out) but it does NOT look great to me!

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The first image doesn't look at all green to me, nor does your siggy.

The "color managed" and PSE image looks pretty terrible. The IE image looks just fine.

Looks like you need to try calibrating again.

Here is a really good test image to check the color. The color in this image is perfect.

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I'm really getting frustrated now. How in the world can these look so different? I went back and re edited this one after calibration to show you. I exported it from LR, then brought it into noiseware and it looked SO red/magenta! I looked at them side by side, and the look completely different.

The bottom one looks so red when it's actually IN noiseware, but when I copied the screenshot into PSE, it didn't have all the red/magenta.

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I think I may have got it now. I checked all 3 boxes for brightness, contrast and backlight, and it looks better. Either that, or my eyes are getting used to it........

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Okay, I give up. How do I get my computer back to the factory settings? It's a laptop and every time I close it then open it back up, it goes all wonky.

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Well, my Kindergarten teacher called me a "determined" child, and I guess I still am. I couldn't give up Wink Here is my original edit compared to my calibrated edit.

Calibrated:

IMG_6984-4web by Stephanie.Miller, on Flickr

Uncalibrated:

IMG_6984-3web by Stephanie.Miller, on Flickr

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I forget what computer you have. I will look at these when I get home. As I don't want to comment on uncalibrated computer Smile

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I prefer your original edit. The calibrated edit looks magenta.

The difference in color from one program to another you see is due to some programs being color managed and some not. Trust Photoshop and Lightroom. Don't trust your Windows viewer, and looks like your noiseware program isn't color managed either.

Calibrating a laptop can be really tough!

Are you PC or Apple? You can delete your color management in a PC by going to Control Panel, Color Management, and then delete and/or change the default there.

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I have a PC. A Dell XPS. I figured it out shortly after I posted. I also figured out that I need to log off of my profile before closing, then the calibration setting would kick back in when I logged in again.

I'm glad to know that I'm not just seeing things, then. I went back to the computer's default, and the calibrated version of Carson look very magenta. It's weird, because I literally cannot get the edit I want to when I'm on the calibrated setting. It's either too green, or I just can't get the right amount of magenta in it. I can't get the warmth I want, either.

I'm not sure that I will continue viewing with the calibration setting at this point. Sounds like I'm seeing what others are seeing when I'm on the default, and my prints are coming out not too far off from what is on the uncalibrated screen. I'll just wait until I get a monitor/desktop computer to calibrate. I always read about calibrating nightmares, and now I know what they're talking about!

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Yeah...I had some nightmares when I first started calibration. There are just a lot of kinks that need to get worked out in the system. I also get much better results from my EyeOne calibration system than I did from my Spyder. In my case, the Spyder was better than nothing, but the EyeOne is just so much more comprehensive.

When I tried to calibrate my laptop with the Spyder it went terribly! A laptop is much much harder to calibrate than a desktop. The viewing angle has so much to do with the color that it's hard to get it just right. I finally gave up editing on my laptop all together. Now I only work on photos on our desktop computer.

Your color is pretty good without the calibration, so perhaps you'd be best just sticking with what you know.

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How frustrating! This is making me not want to calibrate, ever. I only have a laptop, but I have a decent monitor hooked up to it. So, I'm wondering... when you calibrate, are you calibrating how the computer processes the color, or how you view it on your screen? For instance, if I calibrate my laptop with monitor, is it just as easy as a desktop? Sorry to hijack, Steph! Just thought since the subject was already here... Smile

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The actual calibrating is so easy. It's as simple as following a couple of steps and hanging the sensor on the monitor. The program runs the colors on the monitor, and the sensor detects it. Then it creates a profile on your computer based on the readings. But I guess it seems like it's kind of difficult when you don't have the screen at the correct angle. IDK if I'll try it again at different angles when I'm less frustrated or if I'll just wait for a monitor.