CC my prepro set??

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La123's picture
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CC my prepro set??

If anyone will take a moment and give me their opinions, I would be super grateful!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/laurenm123/sets/72157626588751499/with/6134798367/

Thanks!!:icecream:

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I am back later today and will look at it! So exciting!

Side note, are you guys really moving?!

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"kris10gal" wrote:

I am back later today and will look at it! So exciting!

Side note, are you guys really moving?!

Thanks Kristen.

Yes! We are moving to Spain :eek: Only for a year or less. Big change of plans for my business, but it's ok. I will have one more year of practice with my boys. Smile

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Okay....I'm going to do a really quick job of this. I've given the HHCC I can. Keep in mind that I think if you don't make pre-pro then something is seriously wrong. You do such great work.

#1. Not my favorite in the set. Body position looks a bit awkward. You have many better shots.

#2. Really cute...the only problem I see is the crop has his eyes in the middle of the frame.

#3. This is stunning.

#4. Adorable shot. I'd maybe clone back a little of that hanging branch close to his head. He's a bit yellow for my tastes. It's also leaning to the left just the teensiest bit.

#5. Eyes a bit close to the middle of the frame again. A tough cropping case cause you don't want to lose that cute curl of his hair. Otherwise lovely.

#6. Looks like there is a tiny bit of haloing around our subject. The bright area of the road and our subject's shirt on the left side of the photo sort of blends in together. The horizon is crooked, but not crooked enough to look intentional.

#7. Lovely

#8. Beautiful

#9. Doesn't work for me. A little too much of a snap. The wardrobe doesn't seem to fit the environment and we have no eye contact or any sense of connection. Just not quite strong enough for the Pre-pro set.

10. I love this shot but I worry that it will read as over processed. I've CC'd this image before...it still just looks too smooth to me.

11. This one is missing from the flickr set...but I found it in your regular photostream. I really love this one.

12. So sweet. Too bad about those furry bits in baby's face. Not much you can do about it in post though.

13. So great!

14. I'd crop this much closer to get rid of that distracting blanket. Crop just at the elbows, crop off a little of the top of the head and around the body.

15. Maybe a bit too yellow. This one doesn't really grab me. It's fine, but just doesn't quite get me.

16. I'm not sure about the crop on this one. Eyes in the middle of the frame. Yes, that's lovely paper and a lovely monochromatic thing going on...but for pre-pro...I worry that they might just think it's a bad crop.

17. Composition is just off enough that it looks like a snap. Because they are facing to the right they need more space on that right side.

18. This one is good. Don't love the branch in Dad's head, but it's not too distracting. Still seeing some yellow here...especially in midtones and shadows.

19. This is such a wonderful shot.

20. Cute, but not quite perfect. I wish they were closer to one another or had some interaction.

21. What is she looking at? Wish she were either clearly looking at belly or at camera. Right now it feels like she's really admiring that crack in the floor. Otherwise it's just wonderful.

22. Really pretty. Does it look weird if you clone out that bright spot in her pupils? I'd give it a try to make the image that much stronger. Sometimes doing that makes the eyes really funny...but it's worth a shot.

23. Finger chop. I don't mind finger chops...but I think they do in Pre-pro. You might be able to salvage it with a closer crop. There's plenty of room to lose on that left side. It actually might be better that way.

24. Too bad about the focus in this shot. Because it was a studio background it would have been nice to have both the cute cute cute crying baby and the cake in focus. It's leaning a touch to the left and there is a lot of background in the crop for my taste...a really easy fix. I'd still use it, but wish the cake weren't OOF.

25. The boy and mom's legs look a little cool? Such a sweet shot. I love this one!

26. Gorgeous.

27. Lovely.

28. Great shot.

29. I really like this, but find the grass a bit distracting.

30. I LOVE this one!

31. This boy is a bit cool here too. Just need a bit of warmth.

32. Pretty.

33. Darling.

34. Very cute.

La123's picture
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Thank you so much amber. This is great stuff. It will take me some time to go through and make some changes, but I will. A few questions though.

"AmberBella" wrote:

Okay....I'm going to do a really quick job of this. I've given the HHCC I can. Keep in mind that I think if you don't make pre-pro then something is seriously wrong. You do such great work. Some of my crops leave the eyes in the middle of the frame, but I feel they are strongest that way. Should I leave out those particular images? (I will go over a couple and try to change them, but in case it's just not working. Also the overly smooth shot... AHHH I re-edited from scratch. I swear NO smoothing what so ever. I just used the band-aid tool to fix the bright red hive looking things on baby's body. It still looks smooth. Would you suggest taking this out of the set?

#1. Not my favorite in the set. Body position looks a bit awkward. You have many better shots.

#2. Really cute...the only problem I see is the crop has his eyes in the middle of the frame.

#3. This is stunning.

#4. Adorable shot. I'd maybe clone back a little of that hanging branch close to his head. He's a bit yellow for my tastes. It's also leaning to the left just the teensiest bit.

#5. Eyes a bit close to the middle of the frame again. A tough cropping case cause you don't want to lose that cute curl of his hair. Otherwise lovely.

#6. Looks like there is a tiny bit of haloing around our subject. The bright area of the road and our subject's shirt on the left side of the photo sort of blends in together. The horizon is crooked, but not crooked enough to look intentional.

#7. Lovely

#8. Beautiful

#9. Doesn't work for me. A little too much of a snap. The wardrobe doesn't seem to fit the environment and we have no eye contact or any sense of connection. Just not quite strong enough for the Pre-pro set.

10. I love this shot but I worry that it will read as over processed. I've CC'd this image before...it still just looks too smooth to me.

11. This one is missing from the flickr set...but I found it in your regular photostream. I really love this one.

12. So sweet. Too bad about those furry bits in baby's face. Not much you can do about it in post though.

13. So great!

14. I'd crop this much closer to get rid of that distracting blanket. Crop just at the elbows, crop off a little of the top of the head and around the body.

15. Maybe a bit too yellow. This one doesn't really grab me. It's fine, but just doesn't quite get me.

16. I'm not sure about the crop on this one. Eyes in the middle of the frame. Yes, that's lovely paper and a lovely monochromatic thing going on...but for pre-pro...I worry that they might just think it's a bad crop.

17. Composition is just off enough that it looks like a snap. Because they are facing to the right they need more space on that right side.

18. This one is good. Don't love the branch in Dad's head, but it's not too distracting. Still seeing some yellow here...especially in midtones and shadows.

19. This is such a wonderful shot.

20. Cute, but not quite perfect. I wish they were closer to one another or had some interaction.

21. What is she looking at? Wish she were either clearly looking at belly or at camera. Right now it feels like she's really admiring that crack in the floor. Otherwise it's just wonderful.

22. Really pretty. Does it look weird if you clone out that bright spot in her pupils? I'd give it a try to make the image that much stronger. Sometimes doing that makes the eyes really funny...but it's worth a shot.

23. Finger chop. I don't mind finger chops...but I think they do in Pre-pro. You might be able to salvage it with a closer crop. There's plenty of room to lose on that left side. It actually might be better that way.

24. Too bad about the focus in this shot. Because it was a studio background it would have been nice to have both the cute cute cute crying baby and the cake in focus. It's leaning a touch to the left and there is a lot of background in the crop for my taste...a really easy fix. I'd still use it, but wish the cake weren't OOF.

25. The boy and mom's legs look a little cool? Such a sweet shot. I love this one!

26. Gorgeous.

27. Lovely.

28. Great shot.

29. I really like this, but find the grass a bit distracting.

30. I LOVE this one!

31. This boy is a bit cool here too. Just need a bit of warmth.

32. Pretty.

33. Darling.

34. Very cute.

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My questions disappeared. Here I go again...

Some of my crops leave the eyes in the center of the frame, and I feel they are strongest that way. Should I remove those images? (I will re crop with a couple of the suggestions you made, but some just look silly with a different crop) Also, on #10 I re-edited from scratch with no smoothing what so ever! I SWEAR IT! I used the healing tool to fix those red blotches on babies back, and that is all. It still looks so smooth. Should I just remove this from the set?

On #6 there is a mountain slope in the background, making the horizon tilted. If I straighten it, then the subject will be slanted.. how do I go about fixing that?

I can remove #9 no prob. Do you think I should remove the silhouette? It is the only one I have, which is why I put it in. I don't have room for a better/different crop.

Thanks again for your help.

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Some of my crops leave the eyes in the center of the frame, and I feel they are strongest that way. Should I remove those images? (I will re crop with a couple of the suggestions you made, but some just look silly with a different crop) Depends on the image. The eyes bother me the most in #2 and #16. Doesn't seem to me there is any really powerful reason to have eyes mid frame in either of those.

Also, on #10 I re-edited from scratch with no smoothing what so ever! I SWEAR IT! I used the healing tool to fix those red blotches on babies back, and that is all. It still looks so smooth. Should I just remove this from the set? I believe you that you didn't do any smoothing on those. I wouldn't remove it cause overall it's lovely. I think the real problem is that the shadows are just too soft. I played with it a touch in photoshop and just a little more contrast really helps it look less plastic.

On #6 there is a mountain slope in the background, making the horizon tilted. If I straighten it, then the subject will be slanted.. how do I go about fixing that? I took it into photoshop....your subject and the road are most definitely leaning to the left. Yes, the background is leaning, but that's not what I was talking about. The road and your subject lean quite a bit. I can show my tilt if you like.

I can remove #9 no prob. Do you think I should remove the silhouette? It is the only one I have, which is why I put it in. I don't have room for a better/different crop. Yeah, I'd remove both of those. No need for a silhouette.

Thanks again for your help.[/QUOTE]

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"AmberBella" wrote:

Some of my crops leave the eyes in the center of the frame, and I feel they are strongest that way. Should I remove those images? (I will re crop with a couple of the suggestions you made, but some just look silly with a different crop) Depends on the image. The eyes bother me the most in #2 and #16. Doesn't seem to me there is any really powerful reason to have eyes mid frame in either of those.
I can't seem to crop #2 in a different way. Do you think I should chop his head??

Also, on #10 I re-edited from scratch with no smoothing what so ever! I SWEAR IT! I used the healing tool to fix those red blotches on babies back, and that is all. It still looks so smooth. Should I just remove this from the set? I believe you that you didn't do any smoothing on those. I wouldn't remove it cause overall it's lovely. I think the real problem is that the shadows are just too soft. I played with it a touch in photoshop and just a little more contrast really helps it look less plastic.

Great - I will play with the contrast

On #6 there is a mountain slope in the background, making the horizon tilted. If I straighten it, then the subject will be slanted.. how do I go about fixing that? I took it into photoshop....your subject and the road are most definitely leaning to the left. Yes, the background is leaning, but that's not what I was talking about. The road and your subject lean quite a bit. I can show my tilt if you like.

I would love to see your tilt!
I can remove #9 no prob. Do you think I should remove the silhouette? It is the only one I have, which is why I put it in. I don't have room for a better/different crop. Yeah, I'd remove both of those. No need for a silhouette.

Thanks again for your help.

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Thanks Amber!

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I think you're right about #2. I can't get that crop to look right either. I think it's because of the shape of the hat. It's strongest as is.

Here is my tilt for #6. Private in flickr. You can see how much it was tilted by looking at your watermark. Smile


Capture tilt by amberbella, on Flickr

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Thanks! I fixed up all of the problems you pointed out already, I just have to upload them. I REALLY appreciate all of your help.

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GREAT images!!! and great cc from Amber. You have some stunning images there. Don't worry about ALWAYS having images not centred, it's a general rule but rules are made to be broken sometimes. Like the one in our siggy looks best as is. I think you will get into prepro Smile

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I don't have any CC to add as I don't know what they will be looking for, but sounds like Amber had some great CC... But to me, these images are absolutely fantastic.

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Um ya, I love your work. I have nothing to add. Good luck! I am SURE you will get in!

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Thank you so much ladies. I'm really quite nervous about it. I guess rejection never feels that great. lol. But when you think about it, even if I don't get in, I can always just try again. Biggrin

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Had a look and not much more to add than Amber's comments!

I definitely agree #9 is not the strongest,

#15 I actually like a lot, I would use this over the finger chop one.

#16 looks like it needs a bit of clockwise tilting, I would make sure the pattern of the paper is straight.

#17 I would replace.

The rest, especially the last ones are gorgeous!!!

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"La123" wrote:

Thank you so much ladies. I'm really quite nervous about it. I guess rejection never feels that great. lol. But when you think about it, even if I don't get in, I can always just try again. Biggrin

Don't be nervous....I'm pretty sure your stuff is way better than mine was when I applied, and I got in. Smile

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I just also wanted to mention in #6 I notice that all of the gravel "below" the feet has some sort of color cast--a band of green and then below that, a band of pink.

I also wondered about the big elbow chop in #18.

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"Amy_&_Eva" wrote:

I just also wanted to mention in #6 I notice that all of the gravel "below" the feet has some sort of color cast--a band of green and then below that, a band of pink.

I also wondered about the big elbow chop in #18.

Thanks Amy. I'm really not sure where the cast came from, maybe from all the pink flowers along the side of where he was standing. Either way, hopefully it won't be too much of an issue since the cast is not on the subject at all. I also agree the elbow chop sucks, but it was an in camera crop, and I still like the picture, so I kept it. Smile I actually submitted my set, after making a bunch of changes, so hopefully I get in! :eek:

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I just wanted to say good luck, though based on these images you wont need luck. They are beautiful.

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I don't have anything to add that hasn't already been noted, but I did want to wish you the best! I am sure you'll get in - your work is more than ready for that next step! You rock!

GiGi

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I'm such a fan of your work! I'm sure that you'll have no trouble getting in at all! Can't wait to hear the good news!

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I enjoyed looking through your set! I just saw it today so I think all your edits were in, and I also love 18, elbow chop and all...glad you kept it! Smile

Hope you get in! KUP!

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Thanks everyone! Smile Still waiting to hear back of course. I'll come share the results as soon as I know!