CC Please

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CC Please

Hi and Happy New Year to everyone.

All my photos look the same lately. I would love some CC, especially on colour. I seem to have trouble getting nice skin tones. My photos always look too yellow or too blue. Is this my WB? Or other settings?

Also, is this composition to centre focused? Do the hand chops ruin the photo?

Be tough. I really, really need it to grow.

Thank you.

Photo taken mid-morning using 17-85mm lens. Gave slight S curve in curves.
WB was set in camera to shade.
FL: 50mm. ISO800. 1/100 at F5.6.

IMG_1321 by Gem_D, on Flickr

lmh101979's picture
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What I really like and noticed the most is how much his eye pop and I find that having brown eyes, that's not something I see a lot in pictures. The missing hands don't bother me because I'm really looking at his face. Skin tones look a little light to me maybe?

sadieruth's picture
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Ya, the white balance seems off to me, but I could be wrong. I don't mind the handchops. I like the nice genuine smile.

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Thanks ladies. Any suggestions on how to fix WB? It was taken in RAW but if I go to edit I would just be randomly changing settings as I don't know what to do to fix it.

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I hope you dont mind but I played with it a bit in CS5. I lightened the image using curves and played with color a tad too, then I recropped to make the comp less distracting...

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It's really cute, love the bright eyes! The hand chop doesn't bother me.

What WB setting did you shoot this with? I usually use Cloudy when I'm outdoors (even on a sunny day). If you have it to Auto, it will sometimes be off... if you have it to any of the indoor settings, like Tungsten, it will always be off when outdoors.

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Tracey, I had it set to shade. Now I'm on my phone it looks even more yellow than it did on my comp.

Beth, plays are welcome. Your colors are much better than what I had.

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I think that what your're not liking about the skin tones, is the fact that there's a lot of uneven shadowing on his face. I'm thinking that if you were shooting from above him slightly more, you'd see less of that, and have a more even face. It's not dappled light, but more shadows from the contours of his face itself.

Great eye contact and a cute smile! Those are always so hard to get! So great job on that!

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The shadows are the biggest issue with this photo. The lighting on his face is so uneven, and not in a pleasing way. You've got bright cheeks and dark eyes. The red channel is blown on his nose and cheeks. This could be fixed some in RAW. The S curve you did most likely did more harm than good by exacerbating the dark shadows and bright spots. I'd actually reduce the contrast on his face so it won't be quite so noticeable. Too much contrast will also make slight color problems appear worse.

I wouldn't refer to the crop as a "hand chop" as in a headshot there shouldn't really be any hands. That would be a 3/4 shot. This is definitely not a hand chop.

Here is a very quick edit with the contrast reduced on his face and arms but maintained on the rest of the photo with masking.

Your edit..................................................contrast reduced.

Untitled-1 by amberbella, on Flickr

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Amber and Steph, thank you. The CC is much appreciated. Amber, this is a silly question I'm sure but, how do I mask?

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Thanks for posting this, Gemma - I always learn a lot when others ask for CC -

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Gemma, what program are you using?

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Gemma ...

I like the composition... it draws me right to those deep, dark eyes and sly smile. Smile He does look a bit yellow, at least in the face.

Beth's edits for color are nice, but I like the original composition a little better. I like Amber's edit too as it retains so much of the warmth of the original shot.

As for masking - that WILL depend on what program you are using. Are you using photoshop? If so, which version?

Best,
GiGi

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I have just recently installed Photoshop CS5. I say installed and not using as I have no idea. Until then I was just using GIMP.

Another question, when shooting children (or people in general I guess) is there a rule about the best angle to shoot from? I nearly always try and get down on their level but is that going to keep making prominent shadows?

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No, it won't always make shadows. It all depends on the time of day you're shooting. If you're shooting when the sun is lower, you're not going to get those shadows.

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Ugh, silly me. Of course that would make sense Steph. And now that you say that, these were taken mid-afternoon (in summer, so dusk isn't until 8pm)

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To me the shadows/darks look a bit too yellow/green, and there isn't enough light on the eyes area. I had that problem when I did some pics for a friend's 1-year-old because it wasn't at a good time of day.

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Get to know CS5....it's a great program. There are a million and one free tutorials on different things in YouTube. Take advantage of that.

Shooting angle will always depend on the lighting situation at hand.

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I do see a little bit of a yellow tinge to the skin, but I personally don't think it's that bad. The hand chop doesn't bother me at all. And another personal opinion, but I tend to like the higher contrast. Whenever I do any editing, I almost always add contrast. I guess it's just me.