feel free to cc: few maternity from today

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feel free to cc: few maternity from today

I did some maternity pics for a friend today and thought I'd try to continue sharing so I can get more input on improving. I'm always up for cc as long as it also comes with suggestions on how to change it. Wink (drives me batty when I see cc that just says "white balance is off" or "it's too magenta" because if it's off, the person probably doesn't know how to fix it so this is how we learn, right!?!). This session actually caused a huge fight between my sister and I, ugh.. the woman is the "x wife" of my sisters "x boyfriend". The x wife didn't do anything to her and has been very nice to my sister but she says it is just a "sore reminder" when she sees her pictures.. sigh.. i really needed a belly to practice on! These were pretty quick shots as it was a "free" session (I really wanted the practice with the new camera!) and we both had our kids.. normally if anyone pays me anything I do it when i don't have kids and we aren't rushed so I can get more creative! I set up the backdrop stand outside where it was shady b/c I just don't "get" studio type lighting and I never get the results I want and still haven't really played with my flash enough to get it to get that natural look by bouncing it. Okay.. let me have it Biggrin

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Very nice! My quick cc is that the color is off on the second one. She looks a little on the green/cyan side. And you lost her pants in the black background so she kind of looks like a floating belly.

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You're going to have to learn with people giving CC that may not tell you how to fix it. I think the point of CC is to alert you to problems that you didn't fix. Some people might know a problem is there and not fix it because they don't know how. BUT...for the most part...CC is to help you see a problem that you may not know is there.

Honestly..I don't have time to tell you how to fix everything...just help you get a better eye.

Biggest problem I see among these is that on the BW images, her black clothing is bleeding into the black background. She has no bottom half in the last image. This can be fixed using lighting to get it right in camera. In post, you'll need to use layers and mask back something so it isn't quite as black as the other thing. Honestly, I'd suggest not having people wear black when you plan to use a black backdrop.

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Aside from the BW image CC that you've already gotten (and I agree with), the color pictures look too green. Try adding some magenta. The very last picture is WAY too cool.

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"AmberBella" wrote:

You're going to have to learn with people giving CC that may not tell you how to fix it. I think the point of CC is to alert you to problems that you didn't fix. Some people might know a problem is there and not fix it because they don't know how. BUT...for the most part...CC is to help you see a problem that you may not know is there.

Honestly..I don't have time to tell you how to fix everything...just help you get a better eye.

Umm yeah I read so quick that I didn't even read that line. I don't have time to say how to fix everything. If people start saying stuff like this I probably should have just refrained from ccing.

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Point taken. Biggrin I guess I just need to ask specific questions after cc and see who has time to answer them for me.. I do appreciate the cc so please don't refrain from cc'ing me if you don't have time to explain things... I get it, I'm a mama to almost 5. I shouldn't have added that. Sorry ladies.

Okay.. so other than adding a warming layer, which I know how to do. And going back and masking her pants back in (whoops).. anyone have time and care to explain HOW you would "add magenta"?? Dirol I thought she might look a little cool but I'm always afraid to go TOO warm and then it looks yellow.

I was going to use the white backdrop as well but we just ran out of time so this is just what we had to work with with grumpy, tired, and hungry kiddos.

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how you add magenta depends on your editing software. On CS4 I would use a color balance layer, a selective color layer, or maybe even a hue/sat layer. If you don't have any of those, you can usually add magenta with a curves layer or levels layer.

"txdoula" wrote:

I was going to use the white backdrop as well but we just ran out of time so this is just what we had to work with with grumpy, tired, and hungry kiddos.

I get it. No need to explain yourself....just learn from the experience and you'll do better next time. Actually, in this situation, a gray backdrop would probably work better than white. You can sometimes get your black backdrop to look gray when you space your subject far enough away from the backdrop and get the light just right. Then you end up with a dark gray backdrop and black clothes.

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Thank you! I have cs4 but am slowly learning how to do things! I get a lot of "go watch tutorials on you tube" but those don't do "me" any good b/c I wear hearing aids and can never hear the stinkin tutorials so it's frustrating. I know there is a lot of really good stuff/videos out there but none have captions.

I will work on some of the fixes tonight and repost later.

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I don't have time to cc all of them, and my cc isn't too great being that I am a newbie, so you can ignore me if you want! Wink

1. The color is off here in my opinion. She looks a bit green and yellow I think. My eyes aren't too great.

2. can't see.

3. to me, this pose is not flattering. It does not flatter her belly. Not sure why.

4. fav

b&ws- I agree about the blacks. Change that and I think they'd be good.

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I agree with Sadie's CCs.

I really like #4. The pose is sweet, and it flatters her cute baby belly!

You might try cropping the bottom of #3 to get rid of most of the dress that hangs straight down after the baby bump. I like the roundness of the belly at the top, but the straight fabric isn't flattering.

Except for the "floating belly," I really like the quality of the last two shots. Her face and belly are processed nicely, overall a flattering shot.

One suggestion I have is to number the photos (I'm an offender when it comes to this, too Smile ). It's a little hard to have to scroll up and count each pic I want to CC.

I hope this helps.

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Woo hoo! More photos! and what a beautiful mom-to-be. Here are my thoughts ... take them for what they're worth. Wink

1. this one looks a little yellow to me, but I'm at work, so take that w/ a grain of salt (my monitor here SUCKS). I lvoe the eye contact and the general framing of this shot. I wish her arm wasn't cut off though. She has beautiful eyes and they show off wonderfully here.

2. I can't see this one for some reason.

3. VERY NICE! Love the conversion. I like the high contrast and don't mind that the background is so bright - it really draws my eyes back to her adorable belly. I wish that her back (left) hand were resting on her belly. I think that would up the intimacy of the shot.

4. This may be my favorite of the set. I like the sun washed feel. I love her hand placement and expression. VERY NICE use of natural light here.

5. I am REALLY DIGGING this angle! I wish her ring wasn't such a bright spot. I don't know if you can tone that down any, but that's the only thing that seems off in this one to me.

6. The black on black is hard. She does have that floating belly look. But I do have to say that I really love your conversion.

7. It works a little better in color like this. Her top doesn't get lost in the background as much. Her pants still do though and so again she has that floating look. I think in this one, a tighter crop would hlep since her top doesn't have the same effect. If you cropped just below her bottom (left) hand and stayed tight to her back/shoulder, I think it would realy minimize the floating effect and turn this into a real winner (imho).

It is REALLY great to having you posting again. I learn so much just by looking at your work.

TFS!
GiGi

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Thanks! I just posted some "fixes" so hopefully that helped a little. I really like black and white's.. I feel like that is my strength when it comes to editing compared to color, I really lack in the color department. I feel more comfortable with black and whites than color and am always working on my black and whites. I do okay with color if the shooting conditions are "perfect", like they were with the bridals (overcast day, early morning, lots of open shade). I can 'do' mid day and other outdoor conditions, but I always end up with cool images and even after I warm them up they dont always look like I want them to. I've tried playing with different white balance settings (I have NO idea how to do a custom one.. just something I haven't gotten to yet!) and even "auto" because I "study" my friends that are pros work on flikr and a lot of times their white balance is on auto (sometimes it's not, but a lot of outdoors it is) and we shoot with the same equipment when it comes to camera, lens and flash. So I just try different things but still haven't found my sweet spot with color images.

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