A few for CC - new edits added

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A few for CC - new edits added

Some of you may have already seen the SOOC version of these pictures if you read my post in the other thread. I have been playing around a little with PSE8 and I am realizing what a challenge this whole skin tone thing is going to be! Please let me know if you see something horribly wrong, as I am ready to be done looking at these. Smile They don't have to be perfect, as they are for my best friend and she realizes that I am totally inexperienced, but of course I would like them to be as good as I can manage with my limited knowledge/skills.

Here is the main one I am concerned with as far as the skin tone. I had one printed for myself today just to see what would happen, and she looked awfully orange to me in the print. Granted I just had it printed at the Walmart one hour photo lab, but still! The first one is the version I had printed:

1) 1/800
f/1.8
ISO 400 (I realize that I should have lowered shutter speed and ISO for all of these, gah!)

I played around with it some more tonight and came up with this. Better or worse? Or just bad in a different way? Lol

2)

Here are some others. Please CC anything and everything!

3) 1/1000
f/1.8
ISO 400

4) 1/1250
f/1.8
ISO 400

5) 1/800
f/1.8
ISO 400

6) 1/1600
f/1.8
ISO 400

***ETA: Is this less yellow?

7) 1/800
f/4.0
ISO 400

****ETA: Is this version any better? It's safe to say that I need more cloning practice! Is the color any better? Dad still looks red, but he is outdoors a lot. Hmmm???

**ETA yet another version!

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The first picture was not bad to begin with in terms of skintone. I think your edited version made the skin too pale. Try warming it up.

The family portrait is way too red and yellow, most likely a color cast from the bridge.

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"EL2" wrote:

The family portrait is way too red and yellow, most likely a color cast from the bridge.

Okay, thanks! So do I try to add color just to the family? Green and cyan? (Sorry to be so clueless!) Or is this just hopeless?

Also, does the family picture have a lot of noise? I have seen people posting about noise in other pictures that frankly I do not even notice! So I am guessing this one is pretty bad? Did I read somewhere that you can download something to help with that for free?

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These are really cute photos! I like both versions of #1 but agree the 2nd one might be a tad too cool. My favorites are #4 and 5, sooo precious.
In #6, I think someone already said the focus is on her headband instead of her face....but also I think her face looks pretty yellow to me....? anyone else?
For #7, I'm not an expert, but I would just try a color correction on the whole photo. If you don't like how it changes the background then you can always mask the bg back in. I don't see noise but I do see some kind of unnatural big lines on the left side (her left) of Mom's face, below the corner of her eye--unless it's a scar or something? I also see some odd horizontal lines across her left cheek/lower jaw.

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Cute photos! I, too, prefer #1 over #2, but probably wouldn't have noticed any difference if they weren't together for comparison. I especially love the simple, complementary color palette in this first photograph.

I prefer #3 over #4 because the blanket pattern is just a little too busy for my tastes. The capture is good in both, though!

I love the black background in #5. The baby really "pops"!

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ITA about the blanket in #3! I was trying it out b/c mom had brought it with her as a potential prop. Figures that I would have to catch the cutest little expression with that background! Sad

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These are really cute photos! I like both versions of #1 but agree the 2nd one might be a tad too cool. My favorites are #4 and 5, sooo precious.
In #6, I think someone already said the focus is on her headband instead of her face....but also I think her face looks pretty yellow to me....? anyone else?
For #7, I'm not an expert, but I would just try a color correction on the whole photo. If you don't like how it changes the background then you can always mask the bg back in. I don't see noise but I do see some kind of unnatural big lines on the left side (her left) of Mom's face, below the corner of her eye--unless it's a scar or something? I also see some odd horizontal lines across her left cheek/lower jaw.

Thanks so much! You guys are sooo helpful!!!! I will see if I can make that a little less yellow. And in #7 I see the lines you are talking about...her hair had blown in front of her face and I tried (and obviously failed!!! hahaha) to clone it out. Guess I've gotta attempt that one again!

Thanks again!

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I added a second version of picture #6 and #7 to the OP. If anybody has a sec to take a peek and see if I am on the right track or getting further away I would appreciate it!

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I think the group shot looks a lot better! I'm not an expert though. The #6 looks a little better I think but there's still something about the skintone...maybe grayish? but it could be just the background color competing with her skintone maybe....

p.s. I still can't believe that's not real wood floor...I'm so jealous Smile

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I agree about the wood floor. I am so hitting Michael's when I go to the city! LOVE it!

I like the edits you have done. The only thing is one the last one, your cloning job looks fine (probably better than I could have done Wink ) but it still looks red to me. If not more. It might just be me though.

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I see what you mean now Sadie, it looks like it went from orange to red. The Mom's face looks better because it's less yellow now, but now maybe take some red out? The cloning is MUCH better in the 2nd one though!

I went to Michael's in hopes of getting some of that "floor" but they didn't have any fake floor rolls Sad

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Thank you so much for your replies! I really appreciate your help more than you know!!! I added yet another version of the family picture. Is that any better? I tried taking out some red but any more and their pink sweaters really started to look bad. I thought I read somewhere not to take out color but add the opposite...I did a quick search though and couldn't find what to add. Is it green? I tried that and I couldn't get it to look much better.

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Oh, don't print at Walmart! The one hour places are notorious for having bad color, at least in my experience. Make sure that when you're using a local color lab that your images are saved with the sRGB color profile, that will help match up. Are you calibrated? Because that's something to think about too. I know you're just starting out, but if you're going to do a lot more, invest in a low end calibration system like Spyder.

Oh, and download the community (free) version of Noiseware. Definitely run everything that ISO400 or higher through it before processing. Really helps reduce grain.

Did you use the 50mm f/1.8 for these?

1. very sweet ... but now she seems too pale in your second edit.

3. because of the way your light is, she seems underexposed in the face. but the mom won't notice. Smile It's sweet. did you do anything to her eyes here?

4. too cute!!! I think she looks great here

5. my favorite of the bunch! hate the hand chop though, and she's pretty centered. I'd play with the crop so that the limb chop isn't at that place.

6. well, it's a challenge to shoot at 1.8 for someone who moves a lot more than an infant. she seems soft to me in the face, and her skirt seems to have the most focus. still seeing a lot of yellow in your second edit. sounds strange, but when you have too much yellow, you should add red to balance it out.

7. I see the grain most of all here. definitely run it through noiseware. too much red going on in your first version. but it's a nice family capture. second edit definitely better. do you have my email address? I can't remember. if you do, send me this one and let me take a crack at it for kicks.

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Gwen, you are awesome! Thanks so much!!! Answers are in blue.

[quote=coolmama72]Oh, don't print at Walmart! The one hour places are notorious for having bad color, at least in my experience. Don't worry, I won't print them all there! I was hoping to just test to see if I could get an idea of how off my monitor might be. But I guess if their labs have bad color then that was not a good test. lol

Make sure that when you're using a local color lab that your images are saved with the sRGB color profile, that will help match up. Are you calibrated? Because that's something to think about too. I know you're just starting out, but if you're going to do a lot more, invest in a low end calibration system like Spyder. That is not in the budget ATM but I am really hoping to be able to swing it in a month or two. Although I forget how much it actually costs so maybe that is wishful thinking, haha. I'll have to check it out again!

Oh, and download the community (free) version of Noiseware. Definitely run everything that ISO400 or higher through it before processing. Really helps reduce grain. Thanks! I will try that!

Did you use the 50mm f/1.8 for these? 50 mm f/1.4

1. very sweet ... but now she seems too pale in your second edit. I'm thinking I will go with the first version, since nobody else seemed to think it was too awfully orange. I'm assuming that was the lovely walmart processing. Smile I just wanted to double check since I am not calibrated.

3. because of the way your light is, she seems underexposed in the face. but the mom won't notice. Smile It's sweet. did you do anything to her eyes here? Yes...are they too white? I did that late at night and I think I was too tired to be thinking correctly. Biggrin Now that I look at it again it's kind of scary.

4. too cute!!! I think she looks great here

5. my favorite of the bunch! hate the hand chop though, and she's pretty centered. I'd play with the crop so that the limb chop isn't at that place. Yeah, the hand chop is unfortunate! Sad I'll play again.

6. well, it's a challenge to shoot at 1.8 for someone who moves a lot more than an infant. she seems soft to me in the face, and her skirt seems to have the most focus. still seeing a lot of yellow in your second edit. sounds strange, but when you have too much yellow, you should add red to balance it out. I learned so much from this shoot! Will definitely change the ap next time.

7. I see the grain most of all here. definitely run it through noiseware. too much red going on in your first version. but it's a nice family capture. second edit definitely better. do you have my email address? I can't remember. if you do, send me this one and let me take a crack at it for kicks. I thought I was seeing grain too. Pretty sure I still have your email. I will go check right now![/quote]

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okay, if you saved the layered file for #4, then definitely dial down the opacity for the eye whites, way too white and I can tell they were edited. Smile

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Fixed those eyes. Just too tired and lazy to repost. Thank you! Smile