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    I am almost ready to go back to auto mode. I KNOW I just started so I should stop having a pity party for myself but really. I have learned to hate the sun and wish for cloudy days
    Just some questions that I will love you all forever if you can help me with.
    Oh and when I practice in shade I feel like the subject is too cool?

    1.When using full manual mode do you always use your light meter?

    2.Are you in full manual most of the time or av- tv more often?

    3.When using the sun to backlight your subject how do you keep the shadow from being in front of them? Or on the face?

    4. When shooting in shade do you always have to crank up your iso or am I doing something wrong?
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    Don't give up. I have only been on manual for a month or so, I started on auto, then moved to P, then AV/ TV mode. For me, it helped me learn a little at a time.

    1.When using full manual mode do you always use your light meter? no, but I usually do (sometime I shoot, look at pic on LCD and adjust

    2.Are you in full manual most of the time or av- tv more often? full manual now

    3.When using the sun to backlight your subject how do you keep the shadow from being in front of them? Or on the face? I meter for the face (and usually blow the background)... but I am not big on backlighting, I much prefer open shade.

    4. When shooting in shade do you always have to crank up your iso or am I doing something wrong? I usually try to change my aperture before my ISO, it may lose some bokeh, but the pics don't get as noisy.

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    in the shade though wouldn't you be lowering your aperture instead of increasing your ISO? And doesn't a lower aperture (1.8, 2.8, etc.) give more bokeh? I don't see how you lose bokeh since you'll be going into the shade and will need to lower it, not increase it I'm still learning about all that stuff still though.

    Anyway to answer the questions:

    1.) usually I do use it. I try to anyway, I don't like missing a photo opportunity by looking at the lcd screen but then again I do check my histogram sometimes and make sure i'm not blowing anything but sometimes I have to work so fast because my kids are super fast! they won't sit still

    2.) I shoot manual most of the time. Sometimes when I just want to get a quick snap shot of something then I use auto. I hardly ever use AV/TV mode. I get too frustrated with those. I can never get them right.

    3.) i haven't done much backlighting really. still practicing, but i usually end up blowing the background as well. still practicing this though. i wish my kids would sit still for me, heck I wish I had an adult to practice on but I don't.

    4.) in shade I keep my iso at around 100-200, aperture between 2.0-3.5 or so depending on the lens of course, and i usually increase shutter speed instead. I might be doing it totally wrong but it works for me.
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    1.When using full manual mode do you always use your light meter? always as a starting point but I always check to make sure I'm happy with what I see too (and use my blinkies on lcd screen). Hard with a child who won't stop to get what I want though

    2.Are you in full manual most of the time or av- tv more often? full M

    3.When using the sun to backlight your subject how do you keep the shadow from being in front of them? Or on the face? People you reflectors, I don't have a subject to really practice backlight

    4. When shooting in shade do you always have to crank up your iso or am I doing something wrong?[/QUOTE] I keep my iso 100-200 unless it's really dark then I use 400 and noiseware if needed. Your ap the wider it is (lower number) will help but it will narrow your depth (so you'll get more bokeh) but it can be hard to focus sometimes so be careful. You can also lower your ss but again if you working with kids you want to keep it up (1/125 if poss). SO if your ap is as wide as you're comfortable and your ss is as low as you want to go then increase you iso
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    1.When using full manual mode do you always use your light meter? No...almost never do. I just go off experience and my histogram.

    2.Are you in full manual most of the time or av- tv more often? When shooting a session (including portrait "sessions" of my boy) 99% of the time full Manual. If we go on a hike or something and I just want snaps, I am about 60% AV mode. I change over to Manual mode if I see any portrait or good "lifestyle" possibilities.

    3.When using the sun to backlight your subject how do you keep the shadow from being in front of them? Or on the face? You don't...that's the purpose of backlighting..to get the shadow evenly on the face. You just have to end up overexposing the background. It's best to choose a background that is darker or can over expose without getting blown.

    4. When shooting in shade do you always have to crank up your iso or am I doing something wrong? This number will vary GREATLY depending on the lens you use, the aperture you want, the shutter speed you need etc...In the shade, with my 70-200mm I need to keep the shutter speed around 1/250, I like to keep the AP between 3.2-4.5 so my ISO is generally around 400, give or take depending on how far into the shade I am.
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    Thanks everyone! I went out again at 7pm and the results were much better than when I was in the bright sunlight. At first I was kinda going off more what SS and aperture I was looking for rather than using the light meter but using it and then looking at the lcd to adjust is helping me. I do lower my aperture when in shade so glad I am doing something right I will keep trying

    All day today I was trying to get a pic of my son's eyes. He has these wolf like eyes so I wanted a close up. Well he got used to people telling him he has pretty eyes so whenever somebody says eyes, he closes them. I could not get the shot for the life of me. Then my 6 year old sits on my lap and asks to snap a pic with my camera. I tell him okay with it still around my neck. He calls to his brother who looks right at him and snaps the close up pic of Damien's eyes that I was trying to get all day! It is in focus and everything lol!
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    i made the mistake of practicing in full sun when i first got my camera. wow total mistake. i didn't know any better though. lol you'll learn what works best for you after some time. Heck, i'm still learning.
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    I'm still trying to figure out how to meter for the face too when in full sun. It's making me doubt myself on how I adjust my settings anytime I'm shooting then this evening at home I had trouble getting my SS fast enough just taking pics of Eva in the same place that I ALWAYS take pics of her with normally good results...ugh.

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    (((HUGS))) Tia. You are doing great! Give it time. I remember being SOOOO frustrated.

    1.When using full manual mode do you always use your light meter? I do, but I would like to not have to soon.

    2.Are you in full manual most of the time or av- [COLOR=#006400 !important][COLOR=#006400 !important]tv[/COLOR][/COLOR] more often? Full manual.

    3.When using the sun to backlight your subject how do you keep the shadow from being in front of them? Or on the face? No clue! SORRY!

    4. When shooting in shade do you always have to crank up your iso or am I doing something wrong? It all depends on how you want your ap and shutter speed. I always try to keep mine super low.
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