Mom / Daughter photos - Edits in post #7 for CC please
+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 14

Thread: Mom / Daughter photos - Edits in post #7 for CC please

  1. #1
    Mega Poster TracyF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts
    3,615

    Default Mom / Daughter photos - Edits in post #7 for CC please

    I took our babysitter and her mom out yesterday for a photo shoot, to get some more practice. I was quite discouraged when I downloaded them as I really struggled with focus. I just don't understand why, and it's sad because a few of the best shots were trashed because they were too soft. I do think I got some shots they'll be happy with, and a couple in particular that I just love, but I also know I made a lot of errors (besides focus), so I welcome CC. People are suddenly asking me to take their portraits regularly, and it's stressing me out because I'm not confident and I have a long ways to go, so I need to get better!! Here's some shots; I'm so tired right now I'm going to post the shots without settings, but would be happy to add settings if needed. Editing seemed tough between the very 'glowing' golden hour light and the fact that the mom is blonde with very tanned skin. 1. My favourite of the two of them: 2. Really love these two, and there's one more at this spot too. Not 100% sure about the skin tones. 3. 4. 5. 6. She is very self-conscious about her teeth, so it was awesome to get one natural smile out of her! 7. 8. Is the shadow from the nose too harsh? I love the light though. 9. 10.
    Last edited by TracyF; 06-05-2013 at 06:49 PM.

    Married Anthony April 2, 2005
    Nora born Feb. 14th, 2007
    Micah born Jan. 20, 2009

  2. #2
    Community Host
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Location
    College Station, TX
    Posts
    4,754

    Default

    WOW! Mom looks so young!

    First off ... try to not be stressed that so many people are asking you for photos. I think that means (1) you are obviously very talented and others are noticing it and (2) that you will get so much more practice! with people who WANT their photo taken! I know it's stressful, but I also know you will do GREAT work!

    Now ... on to my cc ...

    1. Love the glowing light here! their faces look a little under exposed, but I love the over all feel. I do wish there was a bit more room on the right side of the frame - it just feels tight.

    2. skin tones look lovely to me. did you dodge/sharpen the eyes? something looks just a touch off there to me (but I am at work, so take that w/ a grain of salt. the monitor here is not calibrated by any means)

    3. LOVE the feel of this one, even w/out the direct eye contact. not sure of your aperture here, but I think you could have gotten away w/ a bit more shallow DOF (smaller aperture number) so that more of the foreground was OOF. It's still very nice like this, but I think she might pop just that much more if the DOF was a bit more shallow.

    4. love the warm glow. the sky is blown, but that's not a deal breaker for me as it doesn't draw my attention. again in this one yer eyes look like they have been dodged or something to make them pop and I don't think it's necessary. This is great look for her.

    5. LOVE this one of mom! top of her head is probably blown, but it add such a nice halo around her head that I don't mind it at all. I wish her shadow had filled the whole bottom of the frame. that one bit of bright in the bottom left corner is a touch distracting, but only just a tad.

    6. LOVE! I can't think of anything to add here! AWESOME!

    7. I love the interaction between them here. It's a sweet moment. You can see how much they resemble each other here. Exposure looks good and you got that nice warm evening glow going behind them. SWEET!

    8. The shadow doesn't bother me, but overall the light looks a bit harsh to me. Just a personal preference though.

    9. OK. Now this is my new favorite of the 2 of them together. I wish the daughter had been smiling a bit more, but I still love it! (can you tell I'm commenting as I scroll down?)

    10. LOVE LOVE LOVE! this one is so great - exposure looks really nice! there's the one bright spot on her shoulder/arm, but with the evening glow, it works (or at least doesn't detract). this is a fun, playful look and I'll bet she loves it.

    that seems like a lot of stuff, but most of it is nitpicking b/c this is a really nice set and I know they are both going to go NUTS for these photos!!!

    TFS, Tracy!

    GiGi

  3. #3
    Mega Poster TracyF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts
    3,615

    Default

    Thanks for the comments, and the nitpicks. That really helps. I can fix some of the nitpicks. I did do some brightening and sharpening on the eyes in the ones you mentioned, just seemed the eyes were quite dark. But I can go back and re-edit that, make it a bit less so.

    Good point in #3 about the ap. I had it at f/1.8 just a shot or two before that, and then I changed it to f/2.5. Not sure what I was thinking.

    I do feel VERY stressed about the requests. I've had two more requests today, and this mom/daughter team also is having me do their whole family (I was the one who requested just the two of them for my little buttercup field I spotted) this weekend, and this mom's parents want me to do their photos too... and I just am barely getting my feet wet, don't know how to respond to requests about how much I charge (so far, nothing), don't have the confidence yet... it's just kind of overwhelming. But it IS very encouraging and flattering that people like the photos they're seeing enough to ask me to do theirs too. It's just that I don't feel ready for this. But I will talk to DH about how to handle some of the requests and we'll go from there.

    Married Anthony April 2, 2005
    Nora born Feb. 14th, 2007
    Micah born Jan. 20, 2009

  4. #4
    Community Host Ladybugsteph's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Arkansas
    Posts
    11,012

    Default

    I'm going through your same focus issues. I thought that my focus issues would magically go away once I got the Mk III, but I actually feel like they got worse! I'm not sure if it's the camera, or if it's me looking at it more closely with a larger monitor, and spotting things I never did before. My suggestion with focus: Close up! If you're having trouble with focus when you're wide open, then close up your AP and go from there. There is such a thin focal plan when you're wide open, and even when you're shooting a full body, it's hard to nail it. I would imagine that a lot of photographers that have tack sharp focus on full body or even close ups are using a long lens and standing further away. It's amazing how you don't even need to have a wide open AP and still get amazing bokeh when you're using a long lens. You can start to loose the connection with your subject, though, when you have to stand that far away from them. I'm dreaming of a long lens right now, but it's just not in the cards.

    I don't have time to touch on all of them, but I would say that overall, I would look for consistency in editing. I won't say which looks correct color/contrast wise, because I'm on the laptop monitor, but I notice that the color isn't consistent with them. Make sure all your hazy ones have consistent color between them, and all of the non-hazy ones have consistent color. That's not to say that every single one of them have to be edited in the same exact way. Depending on the mood you're going for in a particular spot, you may have lighter or stronger contrast. I hope that makes sense! I'm not running on much sleep, and I've had the kids by myself for the past 4 days. Must.get.coffee!
    Stephanie - Mama to Carson, Jackson, and Hudson

    Facebook
    My Photography Blog
    My Year in Photos


  5. #5
    Mega Poster TracyF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts
    3,615

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ladybugsteph View Post
    My suggestion with focus: Close up! If you're having trouble with focus when you're wide open, then close up your AP and go from there. There is such a thin focal plan when you're wide open, and even when you're shooting a full body, it's hard to nail it.
    Oddly enough, I have a harder time nailing focus with full body shots. I just don't know why. I got a lot of great shots at f/1.8 - f/2.5 in this shoot, and a couple of awesome ones at f/4.0 (apparently that's my 50mm f/1.4 lens' crispest aperture), but it was usually with full body shots that I struggled. So perplexing. Maybe I'm just pixel-peeping too much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ladybugsteph View Post
    You can start to loose the connection with your subject, though, when you have to stand that far away from them. I'm dreaming of a long lens right now, but it's just not in the cards.
    I read an interview with Meg Bitton where she said that if she could only choose one lens it'd be her 200mm f/2.0, and that the way she gets the shots she does is just to sit far back from her subjects, almost so they forget she's there, and then just waits and captures moments, more so than 'portraits'. I really like that idea. But if I told DH I wanted a 200mm f/2.0 lens right now, after he's just spent six months pricing out and waiting for a deal we could afford on a 50mm f/1.4, I think he'd strangle me.

    As far as editing goes, I think one big issue is that I use GIMP. I'm guessing that Lightroom and PhotoShop have more tools for color temperature, etc., so that it's easier to GET consistent across multiple images. With GIMP it's just hit and miss, trying to compare images, playing around. There are not any easy tools for consistency. Of course I can edit color temp in RAW and then go from there, but even at that, I use DPP for RAW files, and it frustrates me no end that you can't see WHAT the color temp of an image is, you can only modify the color temp from a default starting point (6500 I believe it is). So you can modify the WB of an image with the dropper or whatever you choose, get something you like, but not be able to see what the color temperature is to then use that temperature across a set.

    Married Anthony April 2, 2005
    Nora born Feb. 14th, 2007
    Micah born Jan. 20, 2009

  6. #6
    Posting Addict AmberBella's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    So Cal
    Posts
    6,748

    Default

    These are nice, but you are having some serious troubles with color in these. Sorry, I haven't read the previous responses, so forgive me if I repeat.

    1. I like this, but not so much the color, particularly of the skin.

    2. She looks pretty magenta here. Wish those spots in the background weren't blown.

    3. Ditto #2

    4. That hair in her face is really bugging me. She is too way too cyan and a bit underexposed.

    5. Also underexposed and too magenta and cyan.

    6. A bit dark as well.

    7. There is something strange about this shot. The Mom's neck looks very strange color wise...and I see a strong yellow color cast on the daughter's neck.

    8. The light is very harsh. The red channel is dangerously close to blown. I'm not a big fan of this kind of light. I prefer something softer. The color in this one is seriously yellow.

    9. The daughter has very strong yellow color cast on her face.

    10. The color of this one is the best of the bunch. It's still rather yellow, but it's the closest to being a correct skin color.
    Wife to Rich~ 8/16/03 Mom to Nathan~ 9/30/07
     Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker
     Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker

    Photography Blog

  7. #7
    Mega Poster TracyF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts
    3,615

    Default

    OK thanks, Amber.

    Married Anthony April 2, 2005
    Nora born Feb. 14th, 2007
    Micah born Jan. 20, 2009

  8. #8
    Mega Poster TracyF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts
    3,615

    Default

    Did some edits. Feeling rather discouraged, but I need to try, so if anyone's got time for CC on these edits, I'd appreciate it.

    To be honest, it seems to me that some of the golden colour is simply to be expected due to the time of day and being in a field of buttercups, and I kind of like it. So some of them, I edited and felt like I made them worse somehow. Or maybe I didn't make them worse because I took the yellow out but because I just don't know what I'm doing. But anyway, here they are.

    1. Just don't know how to improve the colour on this one much more. Kind of stuck.


    2. Technically the bright spots in the back aren't blown, but I do know they're distracting. I tried dodging the first time around, but could only seem to do so much with GIMP.


    3.


    4.


    5.


    6.


    7. Didn't re-edit. I don't know what to do with this one. The yellow colour cast is from the sun hitting the mom's neck at that angle, and the buttercups. Every time I try to fix it, I make the rest of their skin look way off.

    8. Didn't re-edit.

    9.


    10.

    Married Anthony April 2, 2005
    Nora born Feb. 14th, 2007
    Micah born Jan. 20, 2009

  9. #9
    Community Host Ladybugsteph's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Arkansas
    Posts
    11,012

    Default

    It's amazing how different everything looks on the big monitor rather than the laptop! These look great, Tracy! They're going to be so happy with them!

    I'd say that the re-edit of #9 looks a little too green. Maybe add a little magenta in, and you'll be set!
    Stephanie - Mama to Carson, Jackson, and Hudson

    Facebook
    My Photography Blog
    My Year in Photos


  10. #10
    Posting Addict Amy_&_Eva's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    6,482

    Default

    Great work, Tracy!

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
v -->

About Us | Contact Us | Privacy Policy | Sitemap | Terms & Conditions