Okay, I'm struggling. First, I edit with Elements 7, so I'm limited to RGB numbers. I know the green should be 20-30 points higher than the blue ... but when I add more green, they look too green. I've tried adding yellow (to make the blue less) and that isn't working either. I feel like my eyes are either playing tricks on me or I just don't get how these two should look.
It's not my favorite picture from the set, but it's one that my friend loves so I want to make it look really good. The whole picture is actually full body for both, but I just cropped to their faces for the purpose of skin help on this thread. Any advice is much appreciated, thanks!
Exposure: 0.017 sec (1/60)
Focal Length: 28 mm
ISO Speed: 400
Not calibrated here Gwen--but their skin looks really bright. How high does your red value get? Especially on her hands, cheek, and chin. That will affect how the skin tones looks.
And like I said I'm not calibrated, but I see pink weirdness going on--I saw weirdness b/c while I see pink, they look a bit washed out, which may signal not enough red. But you should listen to someone looking at a calibrated monitor.
Red is 242 on her nose, 250 on parts of her hand, 241 on her cheek (those are the highest numbers). But I think they look washed out too ... I can't add more red though, as those values are pretty high. So frustrating!
Did you shoot in RAW? Could you re-open the RAW file and adjust the WB? Try clicking on her teeth with the white balance tool and see what it does to their skin--proper WB is all you need to get skin tones just right (you could also click on the whites of their eyes--but her teeth look pretty dang white!).
I did shoot in RAW, and opened it back up. When I use her teeth, I'm still getting nearly equal green/blue numbers. When I use her eyes, I'm getting better numbers ... but they look gray to me.
Here's what confuses me - when I use something white with the eyedropper in ACR, I tend to end up with overly cool pictures. So I try to find something more neutral (I read somewhere to try to find a point where the RGB numbers are equal, and the closer to 67/67/67 the better - not sure where that number came from). Anyhow, WB in ACR is something I'm really struggling with, and I can't wait to get a digital gray card!
Gray cards are awesome. I never do a shoot without mine now! It was a total 'ah ha' moment for me with skin tones when I started setting a custom WB for each shoot. I have to make adjustments occasionally, but generally it's spot-on. It took all the guess work out of WB and skin tones!
Sorry this is giving you trouble. I know how you feel!
I do think it's better but something is off. I wish I were home looking at this on my mac! His skin bothers me more than hers--he looks ashen.
Hopefully someone who is calibrated can speak up soon.
Speaking of, it's so quiet around here! Not that I can say anything about that since I've been MIA for a couple of months, but still.
yeah, I totally get what you're saying. It bothers me too. I just did a levels layer, and am playing some more. I'm fine with doing multiple adjustments, but don't want to spend a ton of time on this. I have another 20 from the set to edit, and the bus comes in 25 minutes, bringing noise and distraction to my house.
And it's been way too quiet here!!!! I also posted this on ILP, but I rarely ever get replies there, even when I ask specific questions. (The exception was my thread about how to store fabric backdrops, I got a lot of replies there!)