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Need some help

This is kind of lame, but it happens to me repeatedly so I figure I should ask for some help.

I'm really having a lot of trouble with skin tones. I'm not good at PP, never know how to get them right, and my SOOCs when I'm shooting in forest and similar environments are so green. Obviously I'm not getting WB right. Can you offer some advice on both getting WB right in those environments, AND how to correct them in PP when the skin tone is off? FYI, outdoors I usually set to Sunny or Cloudy, depending on the day; today it was on Sunny.

Here are some that I took today and tried to correct in PP. Are they anywhere near right?

Here is one of the SOOC of the above, so you can see what the colour was like initially (pretty awful, in other words!).

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You did not do bad - just needed to warm it up:

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Your kids are so cute!

I'm also terrible with PP skin tones, so I'll refrain from commenting there just yet. But I did want to note that in Understanding Exposure, he talks about 'Mr. Green Jeans'. Basically it's just metering -2/3 when you have a crapton of green in your shot. I tried that out this weekend with the engagement shoot, and while I still had some green hues to deal with, it seemed to help! Just thought I'd throw that out there!

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I tend to get cool and green tones in my photos SOOC and it sucks. I love the last one of your DD and love Cindy's edit (and very, very helpful workflow!)

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Cindy, your edit looks awesome! Thanks for the workflow! I use GIMP right now, so I will have to explore if there are GIMP equivalents to some of those things (like temp tint) or exactly how to do that.

I must not have read the Mr. Green Jeans part of Understanding Exposure yet. Good to know, though even with this at -1/3 exposure, it was already dark, so I can only guess that he does a lot of PP if he's regularly shooting green environments at -2/3! I'm at least glad to know it's not just me who has this problem!

ETA: Ah, just looking into it and I see that temp and fill light and stuff are related to RAW files. I guess you can do some of that with JPEG files too, if you have the software?

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I don't know what Gimp can do but when I had a lot of green casts showing up on my friend's son when he was in the grass, I used a "gently"-set hue brush (in my PSP) to neutralize the green shadows (after I did a general white balance correction if needed). It worked well and is easy to use.

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"TracyF" wrote:

I must not have read the Mr. Green Jeans part of Understanding Exposure yet. Good to know, though even with this at -1/3 exposure, it was already dark, so I can only guess that he does a lot of PP if he's regularly shooting green environments at -2/3! I'm at least glad to know it's not just me who has this problem!

Yeah, I checked again and he does say to meter -2/3, but you need to meter off the green (in your case, the grass) and not your kids' faces, from what I understand. I was wrong in what I said about how I metered for the engagement shoot! I think I ended up metering +1/3 - +2/3 throughout. When we were in the grass, I should've tried out the -2/3 meter on the green to see if it would've lessened the green tint in the shadows, tones, etc. I'm not well-versed on it, though, so take what I say loosely. Wink

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Not so sure about Gimp - but you can open your jpegs in acr with photoshop by choosing open as - select your file - then when it lists it, below that there is a scroll, find Camera Raw - Walla! there you have it. As I said, not so sure about Gimp.

To help with shadows you can use a reflector. Makes a huge difference. Shadow casts can be helped with a lasso tool and playing with your colors.