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MrsHolmes83's picture
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newb question!

I feel like I will be forever a newbie, because I keep starting and stopping...basically when things get hard I tend to give up and lose interest for a while. Anyway...I finally overcame the last hurdle that caused me to quit last time, which was the horrible AF on my rebel XT. I couldn't manual focus either because of my bad vision and the diopter was unable to compensate. OK, for my question...what is the big deal with shooting in RAW anyways? I know almost nothing about photoshop (but i do own a copy of cs3) so however I shoot an image is how I see it, I do very little editing. I would like to learn but I think I need to work on things 1 at a time... I'd rather take better pictures than have to compensate for that in PS, ya know? SOoo...that being said...is there any particular reason I do need to shoot in RAW? The files seem so huge and won't open on Windows Photo Gallery, which is what I use to get pics off the camera. I don't have any of the canon software either, I lost the disks and couldn't get the software to download off the site because my version of vista was not compatible.

MrsHolmes83's picture
Joined: 12/27/07
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same thing that happened last time i posted here....tons of views, no replies! Guess I will google. No hard feelings though, dont worry.

Joined: 01/16/07
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Oh I know how you feel about frustration, its so hard
(on the views thing I can't answer about last time but 40views isn't high I'd bet most are lurkers, but it happens to me too on days when tons of others are replying - i'm also bad sometimes b/c I read the posts at work but am not logged in so I can't reply but it adds up the view counter haha)

As to your raw question you really can get better results when editing if you shoot in raw since you'll be saving more information. Recently I posted about showing of your sooc v edited and while I can't say if they shot in raw you'll see what editing can do. I'm just learning and also just posted my first major edit all done in camera raw).

For copying from camera if you "explore" your camera you should be able to copy. As for looking at them if you open photoshop and then File - Browse in bridge its a great way to view mass files (I think you can even use bridge to download off camera too but never done it)

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It's hard to respond in this case because if you don't really want to do much post processing yet and you really want to get it right in camera, then shoot in JPEG. If you want to make the post processing choices instead of your camera, then shoot in RAW.

I shoot in a combo, JPEG + RAW, that way the snaps get post processed by the camera and the printable ones get post processed by me.

What happens in JPEG is that your camera makes all sorts of choices for you and then dumps a ton of information that you can never get back. In RAW, your camera doesn't make any choices and keeps all of the information that was picked up by the sensor. The thing about a raw photo is that it looks raw...it NEEDS post processing to live up to its full potential. Post processing on a raw photo is not about "saving" the photo, it's about adding the necessary contrast and color adjustments that you told the camera not to do. You decided when and if to dump the information stored by the sensor when YOU turn the photo into a JPEG, or keep it in a full 16 bit size file.

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I honestly don't know the right answer to this. I am sorry it's been viewed quite a few times with replies. I am a newbie as well, so I am lost on RAW.....

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thanks ladies. I've been reading up on tutorials on ILP and found quite a few that made a lot of sense about why RAW matters. It really doesn't to me at this point, I think once my skill level improves and I get into PP more then it will make more of a difference! It seems like you have to be a photoshop master to be considered relevant in the digital photography world, as if trying to master photography isn't enough! Oh well...I have a lot of learning to do, and luckily tons of time on my hands.

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learning photography can get very overwhelming especially when you have questions and can't really find the perfect answer. Smile ILP is a great site! I love it there. I don't post there though. Lol and about the views thing...it happens here...alot! So it's best to get used to it Blum 3 I also don't know what to say about your post but I think it's great that you want to get better at in camera stuff. That was one of my goals as well. I wanted to take as good as SOOC shots as I could so I didn't have to do much editing but even now some pictures need a bit of contrast, some need to be brightened a little, or WB fixed because my custom WB didn't work Blum 3 etc... There are books that could get you started with Photoshop as well whenever you decide to start trying that. I learned by just playing around with different things and by tutorials on here. If it wasn't for this place I would have never made the jump to shooting in RAW. I shoot RAW I'd say about 90% of the time. I switch to jpeg sometimes whenever I'm not in the mood to edit. Lol like this past weekend I just wanted snaps of my daughter decorating Halloween cookies. Smile I love RAW though. The files are huge but you learn to deal with it (get an external hard drive to store your photos, they don't cost too much). Just take it one step at a time. Focus on one thing at a time, post here for CC because you will learn by doing that as well. Smile And if you feel you are starting to get overwhelmed by it all...take a break! Biggrin

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"MrsHolmes83" wrote:

thanks ladies. I've been reading up on tutorials on ILP and found quite a few that made a lot of sense about why RAW matters. It really doesn't to me at this point, I think once my skill level improves and I get into PP more then it will make more of a difference! It seems like you have to be a photoshop master to be considered relevant in the digital photography world, as if trying to master photography isn't enough! Oh well...I have a lot of learning to do, and luckily tons of time on my hands.

If you really think about it, it's no difference than when it was film. You could send out your film to be developed for you (JPEG) or you could develop them yourself in your dark room. (RAW)

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"AmberBella" wrote:

If you really think about it, it's no difference than when it was film. You could send out your film to be developed for you (JPEG) or you could develop them yourself in your dark room. (RAW)

Never thought about it that way. Good comparison! One of these days I need to brave raw...