Before I edit any more, I really need some feedback on this. She's a smoker, and her teeth totally show. On top of that, she has a recessed front tooth that looks like it's missing in photos at times. She did warn me of this before the shoot, and asked if I could make sure that she doesn't look like she's missing a tooth. No problem, right? Well, it's a LOT harder than I thought it would be. I'd love feedback on her teeth overall. I did lighten them, but not so drastically that they look like they don't belong to her (does that make sense?)
On top of that, the light was terrible! The sky was pretty dark, I kept praying for sun, but it hid. The same time the next day, it was downright gorgeous. Hate the timing. Despite that, I do have about 20 to choose from. I don't have the time to do this kind of editing on all 20 of them though (thankfully, her teeth aren't in all of them, but she prefers a tooth smile to a non-tooth). She's a local business woman and wants a nice headshot for her business website and possibly business cards.
So I'll take CC on anything about this photo but especially the post processing. I'm also not sure of the best crop for this ... wanted it bigger for editing, but I think I'll end up with a closer crop. (Amber, what are your thoughts? I thought of you when I was doing this, wishing I could take the glamourous photos you do)
Thanks! I promise I'll be back to comment on more threads on Sunday. I'm getting ready for a big consignment sale, and I won't be done with that until Saturday evening. That night I'm just going to hide in front of the tv after the kids go to bed. But Sunday I'll be back in reply mode, I promise!
It looks softer here than my computer ... wondering if my sharpening isn't enough.
Exposure 0.006 sec (1/160)
Focal Length 30 mm
ISO Speed 200
Her face looks soft to me as well. I don't mind her teeth at all, but is that her natural smile? It seems like she is definitely trying to hide her teeth.
all of her teeth smiles are like that, bottom teeth hidden, top teeth like that.
I think the teeth look good Gwen but could you use the liquify tool to bring up the corners of her mouth a bit so she looks happier. I pull it into PS and tried it and it seemed pretty easy to make just a slight change.
Teeth look fine Gwen...no need to worry about them.
Too bad about the lighting....it is a bit flat. She looks very stiff....I have it easy because I usually work with actors who mostly know how to sit for pictures, but when I work with business people, I try to talk to them, get them to talk and get them looking more natural.
The body position isn't the best in this photo...she looks posed and not really comfortable. Honestly, 9 times out of 10 I have my headshot subjects sitting. I find that everyone looks more comfortable and natural when they're sitting down. When they're standing, they never know what to do with their arms and hands which makes them look so stiff and awkward. If they really need to stand, you can give them a prop to hold...that sometimes helps. I'll also tell people to fold their arms, or put them on their hips or something. That usually helps them break up their body line. It's funny because their body and arms aren't really in the shot, but it helps soften the face. Once their body is natural, the face follows. I tell them to stand like they are at a party, or hanging out at the office talking to a friend or coworker.
I usually set my subject where I want them and then rotate myself around them finding their most flattering angle. They sort of naturally follow me with their eyes and head and it works GREAT to get a natural body and head position.
When I'm doing something for a business person, I always use a structure...building or office or even concrete..instead of nature. Unless their business involves nature or something really "touchy feely". Just seems more professional to me.
As for the crop...your headshot can be cropped much closer. Crop her just outside her hair and below the 2nd button on her shirt. It gets the ROT crosshairs in just the right spot and eliminates much of the distracting background.
Last edited by AmberBella; 10-08-2010 at 04:13 AM.
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Steph - I only started using liquify a couple of weeks ago and never thought about it for a smile. Might try it.
Amber - thanks for that! I did have her sitting for over half of the pictures, and that's thanks to you. I looked at your site for inspiration before I left. And the sitting ones are definitely much better than the standing one. I kept talking to her to try to get her to relax, she definitely had a hard time being the center of attention, so to speak. I don't know why I picked this image as the first to fully process when the sitting ones really are better. I'll do a sitting one next and will share that ... but that probably won't be until Sunday unless a miracle happens today and I have more than 10 minutes of free time.
I love to play with the liquify tool! So does Ruthie!
I think you did a good job. She does look a bit soft and un-natural, but it's okay. I would like to see more though.
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just focusing on the teeth, they look pretty good to me. It doesn't look like you overly whitened them or anything. and the one in the middle looks perfectly natural too.
I can't wait to see some of her sitting. I can never get good head shots when someone is standing either, but i always chalked it up to me being so much shorter than everyone and having an unflattering angle.
I saw a woman who looked JUST like her this morning after seeing your thread! how weird that was!
I agree she looks a tad stiff and posed, but her teeth look fine and I like the color and lighting. It does look pretty soft though--it looks like it focused on her shoulder/sleeve.
I can't wait to see more from this session!
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