photo shoot- please cc ( 9 pics)

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photo shoot- please cc ( 9 pics)

What a way to start out. I had 5 kids and two adults. Learned a lot. Wished I could be bossier! Lol Luckily, one mom was telling her kids what to do, so I was thankful for that. It was supposed to be at 11, but ended up at 6 pm. Mom couldn't get ready in time, frustrated me, but we got it. They were happy with what I did, thankfully. I wish I had more variety, but I am hoping for some CC here. I need to learn. Biggrin
All ISO is about 320, but I will post the other settings as well. There are a few more on my flickr, but I don't have a lot of you as contacts. If you want to see them, add me as a contact! THANKS FOR LOOKING!
1) 1/1000, f/2.5, ISO 320

2) Same pic as above. Does this crop work? What could I have done different?

3) Mom isn't happy with her body, so she wanted upper body crops. I think she will want it cropped even higher, but I don't think it'll work.
1/640, f/2.5

4) I realize this one is still a bit cool. I thought I had warmed it up enough, but I guess not.
1/500, f/3.5

5) I tried to clone out the orange spots on her ribbon, but I failed miserably.
1/1250, f/2.5

6) Probably my fav of the whole shoot! Did I screw up the whites though?
1/100, f/7.1

7) Does this look a bit too red for you?
1/1000, f/2.5

8 )Like I said before, mom's not happy with her body, so I did the best I could to make her happy, yet make the pic look okay. Too warm perhaps?
1/640, f/ 2.5

9) Not happy with my edit here. I feel like I can't make their greens look okay. Any ideas?
1/500, f/3.5

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You're doing well. Only have a second....just wanted to mention that I think the color problem in #4 is a color cast from that blue blanket. That's probably why you're having difficulty warming it up. If you warm the photo globally it will make the background look strange....you need to focus just on your subject.

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"AmberBella" wrote:

You're doing well. Only have a second....just wanted to mention that I think the color problem in #4 is a color cast from that blue blanket. That's probably why you're having difficulty warming it up. If you warm the photo globally it will make the background look strange....you need to focus just on your subject.

I have NO clue how to do that. I work with Paint Shop Pro. Any ideas? Some things are worded the same on there, but some things aren't.

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I think the pictures overall are nice---a few of them just need a little extra oomph! with the color. Focus looks great..really like the boots picture, but it does look like the whites on the far left dress are a bit blown. It doesn't bother me here, but from what I understand, doesn't print well? Overall, very good job!

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"Laberglund" wrote:

I think the pictures overall are nice---a few of them just need a little extra oomph! with the color. Focus looks great..really like the boots picture, but it does look like the whites on the far left dress are a bit blown. It doesn't bother me here, but from what I understand, doesn't print well? Overall, very good job!

I agree with the whites. How do I fix that? They look so cute, but when I saw the white I froze. I thought "great, my first shoot and I get WHITE!" Anyways, also how do I add umph to the color? Any ideas?

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Sadie, in PSP you can use your freehand selection tool (feathered) to choose the area you need to adjust (which is sometimes tricky when trying to be exact with the drawing). Or you can duplicate the whole photo layer, do a color adjustment of the top copy, then erase out the parts that don't need adjusting so that the original of those parts show through from the bottom copy. Then merge the layers.

I could clone out those orange spots for you if you want.

As for the whites, I don't think they're too bad.

For color "oomph", maybe play around with channel mixer and curves. Let me know if you have other PSP questions Smile

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I don't know anything about Paint Shop Pro, but have you considered GIMP...I know a lot of people have used that program very successfully for photo editing. I actually just downloaded it to check it out for you, and it has many of the most important features of Photoshop. Layers, layer masks, color balance, heal, clone, curves, hue and saturation, etc... Looks like you could really do most of the things you need to do for basic photo editing.

Oh, and GIMP is free.
http://www.gimp.org/

The easiest way to touch up the color on only one part of the image is by using a layer and a layer mask. Not sure if you can do that in Paint Shop Pro...but you definitely can in GIMP.

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Hi,

1-4 look a little cool to me, although I'm not very experienced with color.
1-2: I like the crop you did. You might experiment to see if you can take it out just slightly farther. I'd be interested in seeing the first shot with the right-hand side cropped so that you don't see the chair edge and the horizontal bar along the treeline cloned out.
5: It looks nice and warm to me. Personally, I think the whites look good.
6: A cute, clever shot! Is it possible to uncrop the right-hand side just a sliver so that his boot isn't touching the edge of the photo?
8: My second favorite after the boots! Mom doesn't look so posed and tense as in the other pic, and you've captured the baby's expession beautifully. I also like the bokeh.

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"AmberBella" wrote:

I don't know anything about Paint Shop Pro, but have you considered GIMP...I know a lot of people have used that program very successfully for photo editing. I actually just downloaded it to check it out for you, and it has many of the most important features of Photoshop. Layers, layer masks, color balance, heal, clone, curves, hue and saturation, etc... Looks like you could really do most of the things you need to do for basic photo editing.

Oh, and GIMP is free.
http://www.gimp.org/

The easiest way to touch up the color on only one part of the image is by using a layer and a layer mask. Not sure if you can do that in Paint Shop Pro...but you definitely can in GIMP.

Thanks Amber! I wish I had the net at home so I could download Gimp. I think PSP is supposed to be a pretty good program. I just need the manual. I might just take my laptop (even though Randall doesn't want my pics to take up space on it) to my sister's and download it. Thanks!

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"Amy_&_Eva" wrote:

Sadie, in PSP you can use your freehand selection tool (feathered) to choose the area you need to adjust (which is sometimes tricky when trying to be exact with the drawing). Or you can duplicate the whole photo layer, do a color adjustment of the top copy, then erase out the parts that don't need adjusting so that the original of those parts show through from the bottom copy. Then merge the layers.

I could clone out those orange spots for you if you want.

As for the whites, I don't think they're too bad.

For color "oomph", maybe play around with channel mixer and curves. Let me know if you have other PSP questions Smile

Thanks! I need to print this and take it home! Wink I am not that good with the freehand tool though.

"Quetzal1" wrote:

Hi,

1-4 look a little cool to me, although I'm not very experienced with color.
1-2: I like the crop you did. You might experiment to see if you can take it out just slightly farther. I'd be interested in seeing the first shot with the right-hand side cropped so that you don't see the chair edge and the horizontal bar along the treeline cloned out.
5: It looks nice and warm to me. Personally, I think the whites look good.
6: A cute, clever shot! Is it possible to uncrop the right-hand side just a sliver so that his boot isn't touching the edge of the photo?
8: My second favorite after the boots! Mom doesn't look so posed and tense as in the other pic, and you've captured the baby's expession beautifully. I also like the bokeh.

Thank you so much for your CC! I appreciate it! I will work on the colors of the ones you mentioned. I didn't realize I was almost cutting off his boot either! I was worried about her hand more than anything! Thanks again!

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"Layers, layer masks, color balance, heal, clone, curves, hue and saturation, etc.." Yes Paint Shop Pro has all of this except "heal" (probably has something equivalent though) and more, just like Photoshop. It is pretty much the equivalent of Photoshop, just not as popular. Anytime you read a Photoshop tutorial anywhere, it can usually be converted/translated over to Paintshop Pro if you know enough about it. I've done several PS tuts using my PSP already.

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Looks like you had a lot of fun!!! It *is* hard to be more assertive, but your photos will only get better and better if you can direct people to their best look. Smile

1. What a cutie!!! And you got GREAT catchlights!!! I would like a tigher crop here and maybe just a slight boost in saturation.

2. I *LOVE* to see his face as the focal point of the photo w/ this crop, but it puts his eyes almost dead center. You might try backing off just a little so that he's on one of the 3rds.

3. I agree that a tighter crop probably isn't going to work here ... you'll have limb chops all over the palce. I think it's a sweet moment w/ baby and mom. To lesson the focus on mom next time, have baby closer to you (like ask mom here to step 45 degrees up and to her right that way you're not square on her arm/shoulder. Either that or, in camera, focus in tighter on their faces and forget the rest of their bodies.

4. once you warm this one up, it's going to be GREAT! What a little cutie. You might also try a tighter crop here (I'm starting to sound redundant) so that you minimize that strip of bright light behind him. That draws away from his face.

5. She's cute!!! Asode from the orange spots, I think this one looks pretty great as-is! You might try a b&w conversion if the orange bothers you.

6. now this is a FUN shot!!! You gotta love those boots! The whites look fine to me, but I'm far from calibrated here at work.

7. doesn't look too red for me, but boy looks slightly warmer than girl. but again ... remember I'm on my work monitor. Blum 3

8. LOVE LOVE LOVE this one!!! Hopefully mom will too as I think this is a great shot! They don't look too warm to me. Mom seems to naturally have more pink in her skin tones than baby's but I think it's fine like it is.

9. This is a sweet shot. Everyone looks in focus. I don't really see anything wrong w/ the greens (again, at work, grain of salt, all that jazz), but I do think it's lacking a bit in terms of a color pop. In fact, it looks just a tad on the cool side. You might try warming it up and see if that helps.

GREAT WORK SADIE!!!

TFS,
GiGi

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Thanks GiGi! I always appreciate your detailed responses! You are so helpful, and you are very appreciated! Biggrin

I don't have editing software here at work, so I just playing around on picnic. Here's a couple diff crops on #1. Is this what you were meaning. I tried to get his eyes out of the middle....I don't know what else b/c I did get it too close to the side of him, so I don't have as much room to play as I would like.

Here's Kellie in B&W. I SUCK at B&W. I would love to learn how to make them better. Any advice on that is appreciated too!

Again, I thank you for your help!

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I like the new crops! I do like the B&W but it looks more sepia. Although I'm still learning, I think it's a bit dark in the highlight areas (?)....to do the best B&Ws, I've read to use the channel mixer set to gray and adjust the RGB sliders to get the best combination.

BTW, when I described doing this-- "duplicate the whole photo layer, do a color adjustment of the top copy, then erase out the parts that don't need adjusting so that the original of those parts show through from the bottom copy. Then merge the layers." --that is the same as masking in Photoshop.