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Those who are in business

I have a question.

So I am still practicing and trying to build a portfolio. The recent wedding I did for my friends, well someone who attended the wedding consulted me to do their wedding pictures. Its not until May.

I want to do it, and I will talk to them about how I am building my portfolio, etc. etc. if they do pick me to shoot their wedding, I don't want to do it for free. I guess, what would be a fair price? I am new to this business side.

Any advice, tips for a rookie?

What else do I need to know before I go about this. I was thinking of sitting down with the bride and groom some time next week.

Just want to get my eggs in the basket KWIM? TIA.

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It depends...if you want to be legal about this, you need to be able to claim taxes etc...

If you want to skip the tax thing...I dunno. There is SO much to think about when deciding to photograph a wedding. It's hard to pick a fair price for you..only you know what is fair. I think the least ammount I'd charge for a wedding is $1000....and even that seems a bit low. You've done a wedding, so you know how much work goes into it and how much you're willing to do regarding time/payment.

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I guess even if you are building a portfolio, you would still need a business license? Maybe dumb question... lol

When pricing out the wedding, would you include prints etc. with your time?

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only based on what others have said over the months but I'd try to decide what you would want to make when you're full in the biz then give a discount (even if its 75-80% just to show what you will be charging so if others in the future come back there is no surprise)

I think your price should include some prints then the rest you can have packages or individual prices as add on

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any income you make, you will have to claim taxes on...even if you're just pbing. I don't think you'll need a license but you are supposed to claim that income on your 2010 taxes next year. just guessing on this though...maybe someone with more experience will chime in Smile good luck with your plans!

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PM me your email address- I have a good form that I can send you that lets you put in all of your costs and how many sessions you'd like to do, and how much you'd like to make etc. It's a big eye opener

My biggest piece of advice is to come up with a final cost Post PBing that you want to charge and have it out there an known. THEN come up with your PBing discount that is only available for X amount of time. That will save you lots of headaches when it comes time to switching over and gives you a good goal to look up to. Really sit down and figure out what you feel is a good salary for you. $10.hr, $20/hr etc. Then track down to the last little detail how much time you normally spend on a session . From the time that you get their email, to driving to the session, the session, post processing, ordering, packaging, delivering, etc. It adds up really quickly. Figure out what your COGS are, etc and add that in on top. Don't forget about all future purchases you'd like to make. New memory cards, lenses, cameras, etc? Add up what you'd like to purchase Jan 2011, figure out how many sessions you'd like to do in a month, divide that number - think about how to save up for the future. Just because you're PBing doesn't mean that you have to go in the hole!

and don't feel like you have to give away your full res images just because you are PBing. Don't give away the farm!!! Value yourself and what you have to offer!

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Thanks Jennifer. I have sent you an IM on FB.

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this is a really great post on ilp that helped me decide

http://ilovephotography.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=305244

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"katetheskate" wrote:

this is a really great post on ilp that helped me decide

http://ilovephotography.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=305244

that's a crazy informative thread! :eek: and that's why i dont have the desire to shoot weddings, can't handle the pressure.

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Thanks for that Katie...it's all right there in a nutshell. It's just such a big deal to photograph a wedding! It's why when people ask me if I do weddings I laugh and say no way!!!

I would however LOVE to second shoot weddings...it's just too much to be in charge of the whole thing for me at this point in my still very new career.

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Thanks Katie. I follow that religiously... what Melody had provided. Although, I am just starting and pbing, I do explain to people that I am new to do and we discuss their expectations. Wedding is definitely a lot of hard work for sure. Doing even a small wedding is a lot of work!

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If you really have your heart set on weddings, I say, by all means, go for it. But honestly, I did a small wedding when I was PBing, and it scared me away. I will not shoot another wedding unless I am second shooting. There is no way. But that is just me.
You need to be lisenced as a business to do any exchange of money over the cost of goods. So if you charge $1,000, you have be lisenced. The only way to get around that is to do it for free then set up an account at MPIX or something for them to order their prints themselves, so you don't have any money pass through your hands.
Good luck! You may find that you love it.