Tough! 3 month old (CC welcome) *Update w/ Pt. 2 in post #13*

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Tough! 3 month old (CC welcome) *Update w/ Pt. 2 in post #13*

I did some springish Easter-type photos of my friend's 3 month old baby girl this evening! Unfortunately, it poured all day -- which meant drab, dreary, yucky light! Ugh! Add to it that we did pics at 5pm after her nap, and I had about zero light!

Anyhow, this age is HARD!! She wasn't too keen just lying on her back, which is what I was hoping to do the most shots of! Instead of lying there, or even just rolling to her side, she cocked her head backwards at this funky angle like she was attempting to roll, though she can't quite yet! So it was seriously tough to photograph! Lol Holy crap.

She asked me to do some Baptism photos on Thursday (it's supposed to finally be sunny!), but I'm totally stumped! Any suggestions/ideas/"poses" for a 3 month old?

Here are some from today. I think I got 7 out of the 60 or so I took! Boo. Not to mention I had my ISO cranked up all the way. Plus, I'm finding that I typically focus and recompose, but now with the 50mm 1.8, I seem to just focus and shoot. So I'm mad I keep ending up with centered shots! Must work on that.

Thanks for looking! Smile

1. 50mm - f/1.8 - SS 1/60 - ISO 1600 (I think the focus fell on her nose here?)
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2. 50mm - f/1.8 - SS 1/160 - ISO 1600 (Background too green? Is she too rosy?)
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3. 50mm - f/1.8 - SS 1/160 - ISO 1600
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4. 50mm - f/2.5 - SS 1/100 - ISO 1600
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First off, that last one is PRECIOUS!!!!!

1. this pose doesn't do much for me. The hand chop too.
2. might need to be brightened, great bokeh though.
3. CUTE!

you are doing great with the 1.8!!

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I love 3 and 4!! Just beautiful. #2 is a little dark to me.

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Thanks! I definitely think you guys are right about #2 being too dark. I'll see if I can brighten it a bit! I had my WB set to cloudy for the entire shoot, but that particular picture came out SUPER warm and yellow when I loaded it!

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#1 - I think that if the camera was up a little more, it would have been a better comp. Cute smile though!

#2 - A bit dark

#3 - Nice focus!

#4 - Like the conversion! You caught a very sweet moment!

Nice job Jen! I also have to say that your focus is really great for shooting so open Smile I've heard that it's difficult to do! (not that I would know, you know.. Wink )

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Focus looks great in #3 and 4. I see quite a bit of yellow in those two though. #2 looks dark and not quite focused. #1 just needs a different composition--more toward her to our left & above her slightly.

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Can't add anything to the good CC you've already been given, but I absolutely love #4. It is a super sweet, precious moment!!

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I know exactly what you mean. I shot my co-worker's 3 month old with his older brother and it was HARD!

That being said, I think you came up with some great photos! I agree, you got some great focus for being wide open!

#1 is cute, I just wish she had been looking at the camera with that cute smile!

#2 needs to be brightened up some more. Not enough light on the face.

#3 is adorable! Love those smiles Smile

#4 is the absolute winner of the group! I love the BW. I think I would brighten it up a bit more, though.

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Thanks for the suggestions, ladies!! You all are great! I thought she looked a bit warm (I tend to lean on the warm side), but I was having trouble because she takes after her very Spanish father!!

Oh, and I got lucky with focus on her since she is pretty immobile. Focus at 1.8 (or even 2.5) with my 14 month old is IMPOSSIBLE for me! Lol

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Jen! What an adorable little girl. Love the sweet smiles you caught!

I think you got some good advice, and I agree #4 is my fave! The only thing I could CC on it (and this is from the total amateur, so take with a grain of salt, lol)... But in #4 on the very left, it seems like some of the mom's hair is missing (?). Like I can only see her hair right by her ear and then the rest is very black... Not sure if it's like that in camera, or something with the B&W conversion? Or maybe she has lowlights and the front of her hair is just brighter than the back?

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Mary, I see what you mean! Actually, she had this pull-over fleece thing on with a high collar!! So that is the collar of her shirt! She was totally scrubbed out, LOL. She wasn't supposed to be in the pics. But yeah, I see what you mean about it being confusing. Smile I lightened up the final version, but it's still dark there since it was a dark navy blue. Oh well!

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That makes sense! I can totally tell where the collar would be now. She wasn't supposed to be in the pics?? I'll bet she's happy she was in this one afterall... It's such a sweet moment!

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Thank you so much for your CC, ladies!!

Round two with baby girl today! We had SUNLIGHT! Yay! Lol

What do you girls think of these? Took some shots in her Baptism dress for the upcoming ceremony.

All taken with my 50mm.

1. f/2.8 SS 1/160 ISO 800
I'm not in love with this one. Eh. Her color looks off. Too pink?
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2. f/2.5 SS 1/200 ISO 100
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3. f/2.5 SS 1/200 ISO 100
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4. f/2.5 SS 1/320 ISO 400
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I love the expression on her face in #1! It's probably my favourite, for that reason. Though I think if you'd had more space above her in the shot, so her left arm wasn't cut off, it'd be stronger.

I also think #3 is really sweet and am wondering if you can clone out that bright spot on the dark wall just above her head. It's a bit distracting.

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These are adorable, Jen. Smile I'm anxious to see what the others say because I learn from everyone's CC's.

Just my observations (mostly comp-related, I'll leave the technical stuff to those who know better)...

#1 - I agree with you, this one is probably my least fave. I think for me, it's just the limb chops and she might be a tad soft around her left eye.

#2&3 - Love these. Beautiful eyes and focus. Just wish her dress wasn't wrinkled in the front.

#4 - I really like this one. The whole thing just has a sweet feel to it, and I LOVE the detail in her dress.

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Thanks, ladies!

Tracy - I see that spot now!! I should definitely be able to get rid of it!

Mary - Yeah, I agree on the limb chops, etc. for the first one. It's frustrating because she is getting to that age where she is wild with her hands. Lol I don't know how many times her mom pulled her hands out of her mouth! She just discovered them, haha. Oh well, you live and learn.

Regarding DOF... when I'm shooting at 2.5 or wider, I notice that sometimes one eye will be dead in focus and the other not so much. I wondered if this was error on my part or if that is what it is like when working with a super shallow DOF? Can you get both eyes perfectly in focus (when the eyes aren't on the same plane) when shooting at something like 2.5 or 1.8 or something?

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You're doing a nice job!

#1 and 2 have a lot of yellow in them. Probably a touch too much magenta too b/c her skin looks kind of orange.

#1--watch how you are positioning here with respect to your light source. She doesn't have much light in her eyes in this shot, as it's hitting from the top of her head and her face is shadowed. Also looks a bit soft.

#2 Nice focus! Like I said the skin tones are off. Her expression is darling!

#3. Focus and expression are darling! Watch your comp, she looks a bit like she's about to fall out of the frame, if that makes sense.

#4. Very sweet. Looks like it could be brightened. Again, watch your light source. It's not hitting her eyes very well, thus the shadows on her face.

You're doing really great, keep it up! That is a hard age to work with. Smile

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Thank you, Meagan!

Where should the light source be when they're on their backs and you're shooting from above? The windows were at my back. Should I have turned her so that the top of her head was pointing towards the windows, or should I have angled her? I'm confused by this because of the shadows.

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It really depends, but I try for 45 degree angle behind and above me, if that makes sense. Imagine where you would see a softbox positioned in a studio--so you get nice catchlights in the upper left/right part of the eye.

This one it's more to the side than usual, but I was working in a tight spot:
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Gotcha! So the 45 degree thing applies to this position, as well? I have tried above shots before but they always come out super crappy because of harsh shadows and stuff. But I see now with your example! So I should have moved her to my right so that the windows were more at her right temple than at her feet.

After doing a few shoots like this I'm dying for the 24mm wide angle lens! I'm soooo short and with my 50mm (because of the crop factor on my Rebel), I can never get far enough away when shooting from above! I was standing on the bed in this picture (she was laying on the bed pillows) and I still couldn't get much further away than what was in that pic!

ETA: And I meant to say, that is an ADORABLE picture!! Oh my!! What is he wrapped in??

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"JDBabyHopes" wrote:

Gotcha! So the 45 degree thing applies to this position, as well? I have tried above shots before but they always come out super crappy because of harsh shadows and stuff. But I see now with your example! So I should have moved her to my right so that the windows were more at her right temple than at her feet.

After doing a few shoots like this I'm dying for the 24mm wide angle lens! I'm soooo short and with my 50mm (because of the crop factor on my Rebel), I can never get far enough away when shooting from above! I was standing on the bed in this picture (she was laying on the bed pillows) and I still couldn't get much further away than what was in that pic!

ETA: And I meant to say, that is an ADORABLE picture!! Oh my!! What is he wrapped in??

Yes, more toward her temple, you got it! It's really a learning process--learning how to work with light is the BIGGEST part of learning photography. LOTS of trial and error. Trust me I know lol (not to say I've learned it all of course, HA!).

Thanks about the picture. Smile He's wrapped in a piece of gauzy fabric I bought at JoAnne's. I have it in white too, it works great for newborns! I need to go pick up a few more colors.

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Perfect! I will keep that in mind!! I ALWAYS try to keep my light in mind, but seriously when I go do pictures for people (since this was only my second time) I totally ignore it! Haha. I really should just take a breath, step back and look at my light before I go wildly shooting! LOL. I guess experience will help with that. I'm awful with light. Usually it just confuses me.

Oooh, I love that fabric! I'm doing a bunch of newborns in the coming months for friends (lucky for me, there was a baby boom with a bunch of old HS classmates of mine -- free practice for me!), and I just bought a white cheese cloth off of etsy! But I love that! I should check out JoAnne's again.

Thank you so much for your help!!

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Ooh, thanks for posting about the positioning... This is something I always do wrong or feel like I could do better. The softbox analogy helped me visualize it.