The xsi vs the T1i lurker question

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tialee's picture
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The xsi vs the T1i lurker question

First off I have been lurking often and am in awe of your gals work. I am buying a camera on friday (so excited!) Once I get to know the camera I hope to get to know all of you, lol:) My problem is I was set on buying the canon t1i. I went to the camera shop tonight just to look at it and asked the difference between the xsi and t1i. I have read some reviews and I know that the T1i had hd video but I am buying it for the camera not the video mode. I guess my question is... pretend the t1i did not have video which camera would you buy? I wanted the t1i due to the 15mp vs the 12 but the guy at the camera shop told me unless I was making a poster size print i would not see the difference. I would not rush but they have a deal on a 300.00 canon lens for 100.00 if you buy the camera kit which I was going to anyhow and this deal ends saturday. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Just wondering if I should go with the less expensive one and spend more money on accessories??? wwyd

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I wish I had video on mine ... so I guess I would lean towards that even though you said to pretend like it didn't have video. Wink

I have the XTi, and I really love it. I have to say that I really don't know too much about the differences of the two cameras you're looking at since I have neither. The camera guy is right, the megapixel difference really doesn't matter when you're talking 12 vs 15 - 12 is more than plenty.

I guess I can't tell you which to pick ... my gut is with the video just in case you want it in the future. I don't even know the price difference between the cameras. If it's big, then just get the XSi and use the extra money (if you have it to spend) on accessories.

What lens are you getting?

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I agree the megapixel jump is not big enough to make a difference. And even though we weren't supposed to talk about it, I have video on my 5dmk2 and I have only used it once to test it out and never since. I personally would go for the accessories (i.e. nice lenses). I would not buy the kit lens unless for some reason it is either free or makes it a way better deal.

The only thing that would make me go with the upgrade was whether it handled higher ISOs better than the Xsi. The Xsi doesn't do a great job above ISO 400 and that is what will make you outgrow the camera. I haven't done enough research to know whether the X1i is better but if it is, I would go with that.

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I have heard that the X1i DOES handle higher ISOs better than the Xsi. That would be reason enough for me to go that route. I agree with Steph---spend your money on nicer lenses..the kit lens is disappointing.

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I just got the T1i and had the same debate. On the same day my sister bought the xsi. One of the main reasons I went with the T1i instead was because of the ISO. There were a few other reasons, but I'm new to this and I can't remember what they were! But I did one of those side by side comparisons and decided that I wanted the T1i because I was afraid I would outgrow the XSi too quickly.

Good luck and YEAH for a new camera! I still need to get better with mine so I can post some pics. The ladies here are AWESOME!!! So jealous and hope one day to be half as good!

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Thanks everyone for responding Smile I think the iso was the only real difference that I would care about. I can get the xsi kit for around 550.00 and the T1i kit for 800.00 The reason I would buy the kit is because if you do then you get 200.00 off a 300.00 canon 55- 250 telephoto lens. The guy at the camera store gave me this great book compairing everything so this is what it says. xsi iso range 100-1600 t1i iso range 100-3200, iso 6400 and 12800 via custom function??? sounds like french to me lol. does anyone understand these numbers and think it is worth the extra 250.00??? I am getting an extra lens either way but only want to spend 1000.00 total so if I got the xsi I would have more money to play with but have to see what else I would relly want with the camera. If I went the xsi way it would leave me with 350.00 after buying the lens to get something else.
One more question since I see alot of you have the xsi. If you had 350.00 for accesories, what would you buy? TIA

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"coolmama72" wrote:

I wish I had video on mine ... so I guess I would lean towards that even though you said to pretend like it didn't have video. Wink

I have the XTi, and I really love it. I have to say that I really don't know too much about the differences of the two cameras you're looking at since I have neither. The camera guy is right, the megapixel difference really doesn't matter when you're talking 12 vs 15 - 12 is more than plenty.

I guess I can't tell you which to pick ... my gut is with the video just in case you want it in the future. I don't even know the price difference between the cameras. If it's big, then just get the XSi and use the extra money (if you have it to spend) on accessories.

What lens are you getting?

http://www.walmart.com/Canon-Efs-Image-Stabilizer-Lens/ip/9722035

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The t1i is a newer camera and is bound to have better features and technology. I wouldn't care about the video or mp either...it's the ISO that is the most important thing in these lower end DSLR's.

Now, if you're looking between the two cameras, the difference between ISO isn't huge in terms of quality...it looks like the t1i performs slightly worse than the Xsi which is expected because of the higher mp of the T1i, more mp usually means more noise. But the T1i is much more flexible and is capable of shooting in much less light though the trade off will be lots of noise.

If I had to choose between the two, I'd choose the t1i.

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Those numbers are what used to be film speed in film cameras. The higher the number, the less light it needs. I would not get the extra lens even if it is only $100. It is a variable aperture lens and not really very large apertures at that (4-5.6). If you want to shoot on manual, it is very hard to do esp when first learning with a variable aperture lens because the ap will change when you zoom. Plus this lens doesn't open up very wide so it will either have to be used with a speedlight or only outdoors.

After looking a bit more, I would go with the X1i body, a 50mm 1.8 lens. that is $650 +$100. That still gives you $250 to play with.

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"stampasaurus" wrote:

Those numbers are what used to be film speed in film cameras. The higher the number, the less light it lets in. I would not get the extra lens even if it is only $100. It is a variable aperture lens and not really very large apertures at that (4-5.6). If you want to shoot on manual, it is very hard to do esp when first learning with a variable aperture lens because the ap will change when you zoom. Plus this lens doesn't open up very wide so it will either have to be used with a speedlight or only outdoors.

After looking a bit more, I would go with the X1i body, a 50mm 1.8 lens. that is $650 +$100. That still gives you $250 to play with.

Thankyou for looking into this for me Smile I am going to look at the 50mm 1.8 lens right now. Maybe that is the way I will go since everyone said the kit lens is pretty bad.

Thankyou also amberbella, I used to have the canon rebel xs. It was my dads but I used it often and heted that the lighting was poor so lighting is a huge factor for me.

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I was typing with screaming kids running around me. I meant to say the higher the ISO the less light needs to be let in.

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"stampasaurus" wrote:

I was typing with screaming kids running around me. I meant to say the higher the ISO the less light needs to be let in.

lol, I have 4 so I know how that goes Smile Thanks

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"stampasaurus" wrote:

Those numbers are what used to be film speed in film cameras. The higher the number, the less light it needs. I would not get the extra lens even if it is only $100. It is a variable aperture lens and not really very large apertures at that (4-5.6). If you want to shoot on manual, it is very hard to do esp when first learning with a variable aperture lens because the ap will change when you zoom. Plus this lens doesn't open up very wide so it will either have to be used with a speedlight or only outdoors.

After looking a bit more, I would go with the X1i body, a 50mm 1.8 lens. that is $650 +$100. That still gives you $250 to play with.

I totally agree. This would be a great combination to start out with.

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Major lurker around here but had to say same sized sensor + more MP + higher ISOs isn't pretty http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos500d/page23.asp . If I were to buy either of them I'd go with the Xsi and get yourself a better lens with anything you save.

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Lauren gives good advice on buying cameras. She was certainly right about my upgrade. And that link was eye-opening. I still wouldn't go with the kit though. If you went with the xsi you would $500 left for lenses. You could do a lot with that.

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I received the T1i for Christmas and yes, the ISO range does go as high as 3200. I don't have much experience yet with manipulating ISO to get certain results but I'm working on it. I love my T1i so far.

But wow that comparison of still shots with the 500D/450D (at the link that 'ren posted) is an eye-opener--the 450D gave a much crisper result....

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