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August Chat Thread

WHOA! It's AUGUST! I just realized it as I went to type in the July thread about fast summer was going that I could start a new thread!

Amanda - sounds like work has been busy!

Sandra - welcome back tell us about your stay at home! Hope it was a nice time

Cari - Ohh I'm always thankful Evan likes the car he's had car fits twice ever! That's kind of cute about DH Smile I don't tell ANYONE but DH (and you ladies lol) until 12-14 weeks. No one even knows I had a 2nd m/c before this pregnancy.

Mary - ugh I hope they will call it in. Yuck!

AFM - quiet weekend. Sat we did some family stuff dinner for my aunt's bday etc. Yesterday hung home cleaned, laundry the norm. Back to work today. Tomorrow I start "training" that gal. Hopefully it goes better than I'm afraid it will go. I'm trying to be positive! If anyone is looking for some funny books I started the Stephanie Plum series. There are 17 of them I just finished #3. They are mystery but really funny. My only issues with them is that they are only like 300-350 pages long I can read that in 1-2 days so I'm reading them really fast. Common sense would say I shoudl check for them at the library but ease of getting them sent to my Kindle continues to prevail and I've been buying them all Wink Oh well there are worse habits to have!

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We'll see what I can recall from the other thread.

Cari - sorry DH is telling everyone. And sorry about the insomnia! I was taking unisom (1/2 tab at bedtime) for the m/s and since it's sold as a sleep aid it totally took care of the insomnia.

Mary - hope you get the ringworm cured soon.

Sandra - welcome back!

Katie - GL with the training! I got to see my dad's Kindle this weekend and it was so cool.

Amanda and everyone else - :wavehello:

AFM: My mom's home! Smile My goals for this month are keep up with the housework and *drumroll* make a first try at PTing Alex. Since we have so many LOs who will be PTing soon, is anyone interested in a PTing thread?

ETA: I'm a little worried about future TTC plans. DH doesn't seem to feel he can handle the kids on his own. He's done it occasionally while I run a quick errand, but he gets overwhelmed so easily. He's going to have the two big boys to himself all day Saturday and he's worried about even that. Before Oliver was born he used to take them to the playground by himself. So weird.

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Virginia - Hopefully your DH will find it easier than expected to handle the LO's on his own. It's good to hear your mom is home. I'll join in on a PT thread, but we're not actively trying just yet. Sean is interested, but still resists sitting on it without a diaper, so we're just sorta letting him lead us right now.

Katie - Woohoo for a quiet evening. After the weekend I had, I could use a vacation, haha.

AFM... They're making us come in for an appointment, booo! They could get us in this afternoon, but I'd be at work, so we're going tomorrow morning instead. Our pediatrician wont be there, so we'll be seeing a different one, the one that did Cal's circ. She is SUPER young, but very nice. I hope she can see it and doesn't think I'm crazy. Sean's is pretty much gone, and Ca's is small/faint. The fact that it has spread to new areas on Cal freaks me out though. Oral meds may not be appropriate for him due to age, but I guess we'll see what the doc says.

And just for fun, here was Cal's feeding schedule over Saturday night/early Sunday morning:
8pm - 4oz
10pm - 4oz
1am - 5oz
4am - 4oz
7am - 4oz

The amount he ate at each of those feedings was the entire bottle, so I'd venture to guess he would've eaten more if offered. But that's 21 ounces of BM in 11 hours!! PIGGY.

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Coping from July Chat Thread:

No advice here, Sandra... We're in a similar boat (see my previous post for Saturday night's schedule). Cal hasn't STTN since he was a newborn with mild jaundice, LOL. Sean was STTN regularly loooong before this point, so this is all new to me also.

In other news, it's time to tally up pg.org members' time spent BFing in honor of world breastfeeding week. I feel odd joining in because I've always EP'ed, except for the first 4 weeks with Cal, but hey.... It's still sorta BFing, right? They don't drink formula!

Anyway, here's the link for that -
http://www.pregnancy.org/bulletinboards/showthread.php?t=672800

ETA: Ughhhh... Sean has learned how to spit. This is good for teeth-brushing. Not so good for pretty much EVERYTHING ELSE. Blah!

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Oops i forgot it was august, I'll post my question here.

Any sleeping techniques to help me out here? Andrew has NEVER SSTN and this waking up 6x a night is for the birds. Book recommendations are also welcome.

Things we tried:
Cosleeping
CIO
Tummy Sleeping
Back Sleeping
Side Sleeping
Rice cereal in the bottle at bed time

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Sandra - Have you tried swaddling, changing room temperature, putting him in his own room, feeding more/less often during the day, having someone else go in when he wakes (if it's an option), music, nightlight or no lights (DS1+2 need it dark to sleep), a lovey for nighttime (to introduce it, hold it between you and baby when you feed him every feeding for a while so it starts to smell like you and he associates it with milk and mommy snuggles). ummm... I'll keep thinking. Hope something works for you soon.

Have you read The Happiest Baby on the Block?

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Ohh no suggestions! Evan didn't STTN completely for a fairly long time but not STTN was NOT getting up 6+ times a night! I think he got up once a night until like 10 months old or so and I was mostly OK with that since he didn't LOVE solids for a LONG time so I'd nurse him. 6 times a night though at Andrew's age seems miserable for you and him! He can't be feeling well rested waking up that much (and neither can you!). I've got nothing to help though. We never really had to do much sleep training I kind of insisted Evan sleep on his own from the get go b/c I hated co sleeping and he has always liked his crib for the most part. So I'm useless

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Virginia - Love the montage of nursing pics!

Sandra - Love the EPing pic also... So true! WBW always leaves me feeling a tad bittersweet. Happy because of what I've accomplished, but sad because of what I didn't... *Sigh*

ETA - SUPER nauseated today. Hope it's not m/s, LOL. I'm fully convinced our 3rd and final baby will be an "oops". Not a total oops, because we know how to prevent and are currently choosing not to, but unexpected in that we're not TTC.

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Sandra and Mary - pumping is totally BFing! I think it's amazing that you ladies have been able to pump so long!

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Have you tried swaddling - he never was much of a swaddler, suppose we could try though, not sure if i have one that fits him.

changing room temperature - nope havent tried that though, but he sleeps in a full sleeper and doesnt seem overly hot and we keep the house at about 76-78

putting him in his own room - trying that tonight

feeding more/less often during the day - i do feeding on demand and let him eat as much as he needs/wants

having someone else go in when he wakes (if it's an option), (not an option)

music, nightlight or no lights (DS1+2 need it dark to sleep) - trying that tonight in a dark room alone

a lovey for nighttime - he cuddles up with a blanky at night already

I'm so exhausted!

I watched the movie happiest baby on the block but it didnt really seem to give any tips for older babies.

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I don't really know if it would work - I always hesitate to give any advice b/c I just don't feel qualified LOL One fairly easy baby hardly makes me an expert on anything but diaper changing. But with Evan from day 1 we did a lot of rock and comfort him and lay him down. We did it pretty much from day 1 though. I wasn't good at CIO and DH was WAY worse so we always went to him and picked him up. If I was fairly certain he wasn't hungry I'd just calm him down and lay him back down, let him cry a few minutes and repeat. But by the time he was Andrew's age he was pretty much STTN - usually he'd wake around 4 to eat and I'd just feed him in the dark and put him back down. That faded around 10 months or so.

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Hmm... seems like you're trying almost everything! DS1 had some sleep issues. He wasn't up 6x a night, but he was up for a couple hours straight at night pretty often until he was 2. The music, dark room, and a very strict bedtime routine all helped. The temp thing can be weird. LO sleeps much better in an air conditioned room with a onesie and swaddle blanket than he does in a warmer room with just the swaddle. :shrug: I think feeding on demand is awesome. I mentioned it because some babies learn to "snack" and will eat often during the day and at night. So, teaching those kids to space their meals helps them space round the clock (DS1 was like that). Others eat more often during the day because they're filling up for night time. LO is like that. He eats every 1-3 hours during the day but will go 6-8 hours at night. My technique with DS1 was change something. Anything (sleep couldn't have gotten much worse!) wait a few nights and see if anything improves. If not, change something else.
I really, really hope you get it solved. Sleep issues are so draining. I can't imagine going through that without DH around! Does he at least let you rest during the day at all?

Mary - ooooh. test. Wink I think we'll have an oops next, too, but hopefully not for a few years!

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The only other thing Virginia reminded me of was that sleeping in total around 6-8 months I got very routine about. Naps were a certain time, bed was a certain time, the routine leading up to naps and bed was a certain way. For the first 6 months or so we were pretty loose and it all worked fine but after that we needed a schedule and I needed sleep to take place in his crib. I was pretty set on the schedule and it took a while for naps with Evan especially some days we'd spend an hour fighting to get a 45 minute nap. But eventually it clicked and we had a nap time, bed time, STTN

IN other sad news a rescue friend passed in her sleep Thurs night and we all just found out today. I'm so sad. She was a wonderful woman in her 50s. I just can't believe it.

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Jen recommended a book to me on Facebook called the Sleep Lady, so i'm going to give that a try.

Sorry to hear about your friend Katie Sad

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Sandra - Natalie hated the swaddle early on but as she got a little older loved it, that may work. I've never properly co-slept so my girls transitioned to beds well.

I find routine is good to get a baby to sleep, so something like a bath, a book, a bottle then bed, this can be transitioned into toddlerhood without the bottle to get them to settle in too. Routines have worked well on both my girls.

Katie - Sorry to hear about your friend. What happens to the animals in situations like that?

*AFM*

Last night my parents took the girls and we went to see Cowboys and Aliens, it was a fun and entertaining movie, I strongly recommend it.

It's a holiday Monday here and a pretty quiet day. I cleaned up the kitchen then got my gardening done, which was way past due the weeds were invading! During a short part of Natalie's nap I relaxed and played World of Warcraft, it was good to just be able to chill out.

Been having some serious baby fever lately, not really sure what brought it on this time. I'm still a bit saddened that I won't be having a 3rd, for some reason I've always wanted 3 (2 girls and a boy in that order, like my grandma).

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Amanda - in this case she had her own dog and one foster dog. RIght now her husband has both dogs. We have extended an offer to take the foster (and their own dog if he needs it for a time) but we actually don't expect him to take it up except perhaps to go to her burial. She was actually in Nova Scotia when she passed. She was originally Canadian and was in the ministry for the United Church of Canada - a life long dream of hers she finally had the ability to follow. She was at seminary for a few months finishing up her schooling. She will be buried with her father in Canada. They had no children just the two dogs. So sad.

On an unrelated note Evan has had diarrhea the last 2-3 days and his poor little bottom is so red Sad He's never had it this bad or long I'm sure it's just a bug he's eating and drinking totally fine but if it doesn't clear up soon I'll call the doc b/c his bum can't handle it much longer

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Sandra, as soon as I switched from BF to a big bottle of whole milk or formula at bedtime when Luke was 13 months, he started sleeping 12 hours through the night.

Katie, so sorry to hear about your friend. I hate when it happens so young and unexpected.

Amanda, we're planning on seeing Cowboys and Aliens this weekend. Glad you can recommend it.

Mary, oops are fun too!! Smile

AFM, I'm totally stressing out over money. I wish I could go back in time to college and major in advertising or something that makes more money than Art Education. I never knew it would be so hard to find full-time work. I'll be at my old job three days a week and sub-ing on the other two days (but that's not reliable income).

The reason for my emotional uproar, I called my (newly changed) insurance to check on maternity cost. Instead of a nice solid $500 fee for the delivery (and everything that goes with it) I will have to pay between $1000 and $3000 (or 20%). I'm freaking out because we are very strapped for cash as it is. Plus, my insurance will go up $80/month when we add the other kid. At least my car will be paid off soon so we'll have that money free...the thought of a new car will just have to wait...

Ah, stress.

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Sandra - I'm not sure if anyone else mentioned it, but the ladies on my June 09 board RAVED about The No Cry Sleep Solution. I've never read it myself, but several ladies had amazing success with it. Good luck! Cal isn't a great sleeper (has always eaten at least every 3 hours around the clock)... But after he eats, he does go right back to sleep, so I'm lucky in that respect.

Katie - Sorry to hear about your rescue friend. That's SO sad, especially for her age. I always hope I'll just go in my sleep like that, but I always picture it when I'm like 100 years old, not so young.

Cari - Sorry about the money stress... I always feel that way when I'm about to have a baby, but these things have a way of working themselves out!

Amanda - Sorry about the baby fever. It can be pretty brutal.

AFM - Today has been overly frustrating. I took the boys to the doctor for the ringworm... Of course Sean's is 99% faded... I've been treating his with antifungal cream for probably about 10 days. The spot where Cal's started is also quite faded, but then he had more crop up on his other arm, which are still visible. Well... Since the doc doesn't have the whole history to go on that we have and was not able to see Sean's, she doesn't think it's even ringworm (it TOTALLY is)... She thinks Cal just has eczema and sent in a rx for a topical steroid. *Sigh* So anyway, I'm 100% sure I'm right and she's wrong (lol)... So I'll just start treating the new spots with the antifungal cream. Grrrr. She said to call back if it's not better with the steroid in a week, but I'm not going to sit around and let it spread and not treat it for a week when I know it's RW and not eczema.

Then to make matters worse, I asked the receptionist about that 422-dollar credit they owed me from where I paid a bill that my insurance had also paid. In case you don't recall, I found out just over a month ago at the boys' well-checks that I had paid this bill that I shouldn't have because my insurance paid it... From JANUARY 2010!! A YEAR AND A HALF later, I found out. Soooo... They said the head doctor has to be the one to issue refunds and he'd mail me a check. Well, a month passed and I heard nothing of it and did not get a check. So I called... the billing lady told me it was sitting on his desk and he had to be the one to write the checks, so he'd do it. But it had been "sitting on his desk" for A MONTH. Seriously?! So she said, "Well, I can't write refund checks, but if you want, I can refund it to your card." So I thought, "Why did she not just tell me this to begin with??" So I gave her my card info and she "issued a refund"... I got a receipt in the mail on Friday. Well... It's not showing up in my account, so I asked the bank, they have no record of it, and said to ask my doc's office again. So today, I asked again and they got a bit snarky with me and said they did their part and they have no control over how long it takes the bank to credit my account. I told her that I had just talked to my bank and they can't even see it as a pending transaction. They gave me attitude about it and I'm like :WTF: You should be happy I'm not screaming at you and making a scene, because that's what my customers do over FAR LESS money (and I know we share some customers). They've been keeping MY money for a year and a half and are not returning it to me in a timely manner. They should be kissing my butt. Sooooo... I called the bank back again and they told me that they should at least be seeing it as a pending credit by now if my receipt says 7/27... They have no record of it, so they filed a missing funds dispute for me, and my doctor's office now has 10 business days to get me my money. GRRRRRRRRR. SUCH a pain to get MY money. Grr grr grr. End rant.

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Mary, that sounds so frustrating! If it was me, I'd be crying trying to deal with all that. In fact, I did cry on the phone with the insurance company when I found out how much it cost. I'll blame the hormones, but really, I'm a crybaby when I get frustrated.

AFM, I posted an ad last night on craig's list trying to sell a headboard our IL's gave us and I already had a lady come over and buy it and haul it away. That was an easy $75. What else do I have lying around...

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Sandra- Evan is still up a lot at night too. Usually 3 x's but then Aiden still wanders out of bed another 1-2x's so I am feeling you in the sleep department. All 3 of my boys have been crappy sleepers for the first year of their life. And not to sound totally depressing but I think I've had 3 full nights of sleep since Mason was born 5 years ago. Hopefully it doesn't take that long for you!!

Mary- That is crappy. It amazes me how fast they seem to want their money but when it comes to issuing a refund to someone... totally different story!

Cari- Congrats & hi. I've been MIA for the board for a little while but normally post more.

Katie- I hope Evans poop problems clear up soon. Poor guy Sad

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Cari - That's awesome! I've been trying to sell our pool table on CL for a while just to make room in the basement for all the toys. The basement is finished, so it'll be a nice play room. But I've only had one kinda crappy offer... Sorta wishing I had taken it now. It'd be worth it just because whoever buys it must agree to disassemble/haul it out. This person was going to do it. Should've taken the offer!

AFM - The highlight of the doc visit was that the nurse complimented Sean on his vocabulary. He was talking up a storm to her, so that was nice. Smile

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Cari - awesome! I keep meaning to CL some extra cloth diapers I have. I just have to find them first. Lol

Mary - you should totally switch doctors after you get that refund.

Karen - Hi! Sorry your sleep is so rough. Any news on the next baby?

AFM: At nap time Raymond joined in while I read to Alex then followed us upstairs and climbed into bed. Yahoo I should be cleaning the house, but as soon as Oliver falls asleep I'm going to nap, too. Biggrin
Not as exciting, last night DH said again he thinks 3 kids might be his limit. So now I guess I have to hope for accidental twins or triplets? Not now, but maybe in a few years.

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Sandra, I followed Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Baby. He gives several different methods to tailor to your child. We essentially did CIO and it took two nights. The first night he screamed like crazy for 45 minutes, but the second night he only lightly cried for 20 minutes. I still got up a few times to feed him during the night, but after that first night he would fall right back asleep after each feeding. Otherwise I'd have to rock him to sleep for 1 1/2 hours every.freakin.time. he woke up, which left me exhausted! I was averaging 2-3 hours of sleep per night and after months of that I just couldn't physically do it anymore... That first night was Hell, I won't lie. My DH and I sat on the couch practically bawling the entire time he cried. It was so hard! But I knew I couldn't cave and go get him, as much as I wanted to. I was on the brink of a mental breakdown from lack of sleep and knew it had to be done for the sake of the entire family. So anyone that is judging me for using CIO can just stop right now - sometimes it's just what has to be done. He wasn't getting enough sleep. I wasn't getting enough sleep. DH was getting screamed at over everything. It just wasn't a good situation. Now I have the best sleeper in the world that sleep from 7-6 every night and naps from 1-2:30/3 every day with no crying, no complaining - just happiness. You say "it's nap time!" or "it's time for bed!" and he's climbing up the stairs as fast as he can! lol.

Okay, enough about that. I'd write more, but I'm at my parents and Xander is getting into everything. haha.

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Lauren - when did you get your BFP last time? Can you test soon?

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Training makes for an odd day - long and fast. She seems interested but she's going to need to take notes if she wants to survive I'm not going to take well to explaining twice. Or she better have a heck of a memory! Maybe today was just her getting used to things.

Thoughts on little blister like rash Evan has on his feet? It's not horrible I almost missed it but I realized it's on both feet. He doesn't seem to mind....

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Virginia- No, no immediate baby plans. I go back n forth between wanting want now and wanting one never. Wink I think it might have something to do with how the 3 monsters I have no are behaving. I'm glad to hear your mom is doing well after surgery. I'm sure that was stressful. Sad

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Hi Karen! I'm so glad a lot of the old gang is still here.

Speaking of sleep, I have such insomnia! All day I'm practically falling asleep where I stand ( I did dose a little while Luke was getting into all sorts of shananagans. But now that it's time for bed, nothing. I'm wide awake. This stinks.

Had my dr's appointment today. Nothing special. Just blood and pap. The fun day will be the ultrasound which is next week on Thursday! Woohoo! :woohoo: The only bad thing is that DH is stuck at training next week and won't be able to make it.

Cari

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Mary - you should totally switch doctors after you get that refund.

I've been strongly considering it! I have never really loved that office. The pediatrician rubbed me the wrong way VERY early on with Sean about EP-ing (perhaps I should thank her for giving me the motivation to succeed when she said I couldn't do it?). They're just always a bit abrasive... Several of my neighbors all use the same ped and highly recommend him, so I've been thinking of seeing if he's accepting patients. Smile

Katie - The training thing doesn't sound overly fun, haha... I'm the same way, I want them to pick it up the first time. Unfortunately, I have two employees that I have to explain basic things to after 3 years and 1 year of working there. :eek:

Cari - Boooo for your DH having to miss the u/s!! My DH missed a couple of my appointments towards the end of my pregnancy... We just decided for him not to go because it was during DS1's nap time, and he was getting to be a handful to take to the office at that time of day. And of course he always missed something exciting... A couple *surprise* u/s's, a couple surprise trips to L&D. :rolleyes: It just got to be too hard to take DS1 though because he's hyperactive, haha. Not sure what we'll do next time. DH might only get to go to the 20-wk u/s, lol.

Karen - You know you want another one, lol. Wink

AFM - I had my first-ever "webinar" at work yesterday. It was god-awful boring... My eyes were drooping and I could have easily fallen asleep. It was sorta funny though... There were like 105 people in there, and so many people couldn't figure it out and it was just sorta humorous. I'm not really sure how efficient it was, but it's better than driving 40+ minutes each way to the district office for a meeting.

ETA - The refund from the pediatrician is in my account today, woohoo! I'm glad I got it without anymore of a headache than it already caused me. I wonder if it would've shown up today anyway, or if it was a result of me filing a dispute with the bank yesterday? who cares... I got my money, woohoo! They should've had to pay me interest with as long as they kept it.

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Holy ADD for me today at work. I'm just in a total space zone. OH well. I'll have to do more from home but I can catch up then I suppose!

Mary - yay for FINALLY getting the refund! And I've debating swapping Peds. I like the DOCTORS at my office but I HATE the staff. If you call for a sick visit and don't want to do it THAT DAY they treat you like the most awful mom on earth. I appreciate that they always get sick visits in the same day I really do but sometimes it's easier to schedule an apt for Thurs or Fri when it's not an emergency!

Cari - YAY of an upcoming u/s! FUN!

Baby has been really calm today......and LOW. Dear lord the pressure. He likes to hang low, make my pelvis and hip hurt. I think perhaps Evan has foot/hand/mouth disease....maybe? It says it starts with a fever and blisters in his mouth. He NEVER had a fever and I can find one tiny little mark on his tongue. He has one tiny one on his thumb and then a couple blisters on his feet. Maybe just a really mild case? I actually took his temp a couple times over the weekend b/c he fussed at his nap and NEVER does that but it was totally normal. Oh well he has acted fine and doesn't bother the little blister/marks

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Virginia, I got a BFN at 10DPO last time and didn't test again til 13DPO (when I got my BFP), so I don't plan on testing early. Plus I've been spotting pretty much all week. A LOT of spotting, as-in sometimes I thought I was starting my period super early for some reason, but then it'd stop. This has seriously been the craziest cycle ever! Anyway, I'd usually start AF today or tomorrow, so I'm just going to wait. If I don't have AF by this weekend then it's time to test. Even then I'll probably wait til I get home on Sunday because I have 2 perfectly good tests waiting for me there and I don't really want to spend money on new ones. haha. I still think AF is going to start. If it doesn't it's time to actually worry about all this spotting! Absolutely NO pregnancy signs, though, and I had some last time around (extremely tender nipples and cramping).

Katie, I hope your trainee has a really good memory!! Every time I had to train someone they'd just sit there and nod, but then ask me a million questions two weeks later when they actually had to do something... I HATED it, especially when they'd call me at the worst possible time. Bah. Hope Evan doesn't have foot/mouth or anything too serious. I'm glad he's in good spirits!

Mary, yay for not driving! Too bad it was for something mega boring... Glad you got your refund!

Cari, sorry DH won't be able to make it to the u/s.

AFM, just got back from some shopping. I had to come back early because my mom got a call from her dr. that her test results came back showing she still has blood clots, they're just not breaking up for some reason (she's on meds). So she needed me to take over baby duty and give her the car so she could go see him for further testing. I hope it isn't anything bad... The poor woman just can't catch a break!

I went to a ginormous Old Navy that actually had a maternity section, so I bought some new maternity stuff they had on sale. Yeah, I'm not pregnant (um, most likely anyway, ha), but I know I'm missing some key pieces in my maternity wardrobe, so why not buy when the getting's good? haha. I spent a ton of money. heh. Some of it was non-maternity t-shirts and stuff, though. There are also a few things I might return at the local ON. I also got a few shirts at Motherhood Maternity since I was by one. I wanted to hit up some other stores, but then my mom called...

Now grandpa is playing the end of Mickey Mouse Clubhouse over and over again for Xander so he can hear the hot dog song. :rolleyes: He's spoiling that kid!

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"kmm123" wrote:

I think perhaps Evan has foot/hand/mouth disease....maybe?

That's what I was going to suggest. I hope it turns out to be nothing much! Sick kids are no fun. Raymond had a stomach bug this morning. I bet it'll be Alex tomorrow.

Lauren - GL! 10dpo seems to be my magic day, so when I saw you were there I had to ask.

I'm not sure I'm happy with my ped, either. I like the doctor we see, and I like the other doc Oliver saw in the hosp, but there are a couple office policies which drive me nuts. Like when I take a kid in with a brewing infection and they tell me to come back in a few days if he gets worse. Why can't they just say "call us if he gets worse and we'll call in antibiotics" or, "here's a script. fill it if you think he's getting worse" I understand not wanting to over-prescribe antibiotics, but I kind of feel they just want to be able to charge for an extra office visit. Definitely doesn't encourage me to try to nip things in the bud.

I was so sad to leave the ped I had before we moved. She was awesome. And since she lived right down the street I used to see her at the playground with her kids.

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AF is here! I'm kind of glad. I would've been over the moon happy to be pregnant now, of course, but ideally Sept or Oct will work soooooo much better since we have some things planned. It'll be here before I know it!

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Katie - HFM seems to be pandemic right now, hahah... I can't believe how many people (both close to me and far away that I talk to on facebook/here) have told me that their kids (and even a couple adults) have had it since Sean had it as the underlying cause of his febrile seizure. Crazy! I'm happy to hear Evan's seems mild.

Lauren - Glad AF's appearance isn't too depressing. It won't be long at all before you're TTC!!

Virginia - I totally agree with what you said about your ped's office. We took the boys in on Tuesday for the ringworm... Of course, Sean's was mostly faded, so she couldn't see it. And Cal's is small (but it was spreading to new locations, hence the reason we took them in). And... She said it was eczema and she'd give him a topical steroid. She said, "If it's not better in a week, call me." I'd be willing to bed they'd make him come in for a new visit... Hence why I'm just continuing my own self-treatment with the OTC antifungal cream, haha. I'm kicking myself for taking them in to begin with... Paying for a visit for BOTH kids to get no more info than I already had. :rolleyes:

AFM - Things appear to be declining pretty rapidly with my grandpa. I'm glad he's living in my parents' house and not a nursing home right now. From what my mom emailed me, I'm surprised he made it through the night. I guess he was pretty unresponsive, not urinating (although he finally did), a little combative. My aunt mentioned on her facebook that he was having tremors. My mom said that EVERYONE was there, and their driveway was overflowing and cars were spilling out onto the road.. They've got a pretty big driveway, so that sounds crazy. I'm not sure what today will bring...

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Lauren - glad it turned out for the best but I'm looking forward to some ladies on here TTC LOL If I can't POAS I want others to!!

Mary - so sorry about your grandpa. It's wonderful though that your mom is able to take him in her home and knows what to do etc. It has to be so hard though for everyone

Virginia - Sorry your new ped isn't great. It's hard to find good docs

It's a gloomy day here. Maybe it will clear up a little and we can go for a walk or something later. I made the mistake of weighing myself this morning. Ugh. I swapped my bagels for steel cut oats, brought my lunch all week (PBJ, yogurt, nothing junky) and I am still up 2 pounds. Sigh. I REALLY wanted to keep weight gain to like 30 pounds this time.....it's not going to happen at this rate.

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Katie - I was feeling the same way about weight gain this time. I really wanted to gain less, and ended up gaining just about exactly the same... So I tell myself my body just knows what it needs to grow a baby! It'll come off after baby is born. I just realized the other day that I had hit my pre-preg weight again, woohoo!

AFM - I'm not sure if I mentioned DH's gma is in the hospital. We're having the worst luck with our grandparents this year. His other gma died a couple months ago. My grandpa is having a terrible time and probably has only days left, if that. Now his other gma is in the hospital, jaundiced due to blocked bile ducts. She also has a mass on her pancreas and is a poor candidate for surgery due to diabetes and other health issues. She is having a liver biopsy done though. Just a bunch of craziness... our poor grandparents.. Sad

ETA - OMG!!! I just let Sean eat some peanut butter. He has rarely had it... only small amounts in things. He would never eat it, so i stopped offering. well today, he grabbed a jar off the counter and wanted some, so dh let him lick a little off of his finger. he liked it, so dh just gave him a spoonful of it to eat... his face got all red and crazy!!! pleeeeeeeeeeease don't let him be peanut allergic!! i can't even imagine having to be one of those parents to avoid all things peanut-related. especially because i looooooooooove peanut anything. but i'm scared of anaphylactic reactions, i never want to be a parent that needs to keep an epipen handy. i instantly shoved some benadryl down his throat and i think it'll be okay, but i'm nervous for next time he tries it...

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Katie - Sorry to hear Evan is sick, though glad to hear it's not effecting his mood too much, hope he gets better soon.

Hope the weight gain isn't too extreme, as long as your pregnancy is healthy I'd say don't worry too much.

Lauren - I loved the giant Old Navy in Toronto that I went to it was 3 stories and had a HUGE selection, our local store is kind of crappy and never has much stock.

Hope everything gets cleared up for your mom.

I played Natalie the Hot Dog song once on You Tube, we have basic cable so don't get the Disney channel, she absolutely loved it, now every time she's at my computer she wants the song played.

YAY for a well planned AF! Hope you get the date you want for a BFP.

Mary - Sorry to hear about your grandpa, I really hope his passing comes easy for him. I think it is wonderful that your mom is caring for him and keeping him as comfortable as she can at this time.

I thought of you when I was at the pharmacy picking up my botox on Friday, a lady was at the counter complaining at the pharmist about a $16 perscription, saying she thought the gouvernment paid for it kept expecting the pharmist to agree, the pharmasist just looked annoyed. Anyway I think I helped lighten the pharmasists mood when I told her that I thought it was silly of the customer to be compalining about such a cheap perscription, while I was picking up something that is $150 with insurance ($1500 without). I know she seemed much happier after serving me. Biggrin

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Pretty quiet here, little anxious about AF it's not due till next week but I hate the odd cycles I've been having, I think I O'd late so am expecting it to be late. No word from my family doctor or the OBGYN on an appointment time I might have to call and harrass them.

I am sooooo greatful for public health care, the whole idea of having to pay for a doctors appointment just bothers me especially to ensure a healthy child. I wouldn't want to have to worry about a sick child and the bills :eek:

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Mary - Ugh I hope you don't have an allergy Sad Evan LOVESSSSSS PB it's one of our 4 sources of protein LOL Since he still refuses most meat Sorry about all the grandparents!

Amanda - I'm lucky as my insurance covers ped appointments 100% both sick and well baby visits. They cover 100% of my OB stuff too. I have great insurance. I know it's a hot US topic but I'd go to universal health care like the Canadians in an instant. The thought of losing jobs or having Evan grow up and get laid off and owe his life to a hopsital bill....ugh so sad. On the flip side if/when you visit the US buy insurance -- Canadian healthcare doesn't cover stuff here. A friend (actually the one who passed away) had her father visiting he had a heart attack and they had a $45,000 (yes $45,000) bill to the hospital. Needless to say he never again crossed the border with out buying travel health insurance.

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Katie: Don't stress the weight gain. I gained as much weight with this pregnancy as I did with Breklyn and I ran until I was 35 weeks and ate WAY better so my theory is that you gain what your body needs to for the most part. I ended up gaining more in the first half than I did with her, but then I had a whole month towards the end that I didn't gain any so it evened out. It'll be fine!! Hope Evan gets feeling better.

Amanda: hope AF comes on schedule so you won't have to stress it. I've heard mixed reviews on public health care that you guys have, glad that you like it! My insurance (which is expensive, but all insurance is) doesn't charge us for well-child appointments, but I have a $20 co-pay for any other visits I have to make. I'm just thankful for good insurance because I just got our bills from my birth & hospital stay and they are already over $6000 and I haven't seen MY doctor's bill yet. Crazy. Crazy

Mary: I'd bet that he isn't super allergic to it if that was his reaction, at least not so much that he'd have to avoid foods that came in contact with peanuts, KWIM? Hopefully if he is sensitive to it, he'll grow out of it?? Bummer.

Virginia: I don't like dr's like that who want to charge and inconvenience you to come back again IF it gets worse. I love my pedi for that reason - when Brekke's eye started getting clogged (she has a crappy duct on one side that sometimes acts up), she wrote me a prescription just for when it does act up even though when her appointment came, Brekke's eye looked fine that day :roll:

Lauren: Sorry AF showed, but glad you are okay with everything. GL next cycle (or Sept/Oct if you prefer that!) :vibes:

:wavehello: to everyone I missed!

I've been lurking a lot so I'm around, just not posting much. Dane's 2 week appt is today and I'm curious to see if he's grown much since last week. I was reading Brekke's baby book last night and saw that she's wasn't the same length as Dane until she was 2 months old (hahaha). He's been measured 2x already so I know that it wasn't a fluke. So funny. My new double jogger should be here today or tomorrow and I'm SOOOO excited to get back outside even though I'll probably only be walking for another few weeks. I posted this pic on my BB, check out my kid's hair (it's on FB for those on there so sorry if you've already seen it):

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katie - GL with the weight. Raymond recently broke our bathroom scale. I actually kind of like not having one!

Mary - Sean just won't let you catch a break, huh? I hope it's not an allergy! My kids live on peanut butter

Amanda - your health care sounds pretty nice. (again, hot topic, so not getting too into it) We're lucky that ours is pretty good. We have a $20 copay, which adds up, but it could be worse. Maternity stuff of pretty sweet, too. My whole pregnancy and delivery was only $250.

Ash - GL with the appointment! How is everyone settling in with Dane? Is he treating you well?

I'm thinking of switching the kids to the doc I see. She's a family care doc. I have to find out what they do for the ped patients after hours and what not.

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Ash, looooooooooove the pic! I love spikey baby hair!

Mary, I hope Sean doesn't have a peanut allergy. Was it just his skin? You've said he has sensitive skin, so maybe he was just having a topical reaction and not an actual allergy... Can your dr do some kind of test to see if he's allergic?

Katie, sorry you're gaining more than you'd like. I gained like 37 last time and would like to keep it under 30 next time around too, but we'll see how that goes! lol.

Virginia, I use my family doc for Xander because I loooove her. Maybe if I had a child with some sort of issues I'd switch to a pediatrician, but so far that hasn't been necessary. I don't think there's anything wrong with using a family doc for the whole family.

AFM, DH is on his way up here. It seems like I JUST saw him, but I haven't since Monday morning. This week has flown by. Did a little more shopping this morning, mainly for wedding cards/wrapping paper/etc., but I also got a few things for Xander and some nail polish that will hopefully go with my dress for the wedding. If not, whatever. I give up. It has a black top and a white bottom w/ a teal floraly design. I am not about to rock teal nail polish at my SIL's wedding, so it's been kind of hard to find a color that looks okay with it. I should just go get a french manicure done or something. lol. I might have to call the nail salon and see what they cost.

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Virginia: Brekke is doing great with him and has done a lot better overall than I thought. She wants to hold and "pet" him all the time LOL. He is such a good baby and is sleeping pretty well so I can't complain one bit!

Lauren: yeah his hair is nuts Biggrin GL with the nails. Brekke wanted her nails pink a few weeks ago & then whined until I did mine too so I sported BRIGHT pink nails for a few days :rolleyes:

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"Muddee" wrote:

I thought of you when I was at the pharmacy picking up my botox on Friday, a lady was at the counter complaining at the pharmist about a $16 perscription, saying she thought the gouvernment paid for it kept expecting the pharmist to agree, the pharmasist just looked annoyed. Anyway I think I helped lighten the pharmasists mood when I told her that I thought it was silly of the customer to be compalining about such a cheap perscription, while I was picking up something that is $150 with insurance ($1500 without). I know she seemed much happier after serving me. Biggrin

lol, this made my day before work today! Our big thing here is that medicaid will charge a $2 copay for brand name drugs for adults (kids are always free if they have medicaid and it's a covered drug). Anyway, people complain about the $2 copays!! We're like :WTF: When out labels print, it shows how much medicaid paid, often hundreds or even thousands of dollars. I usually word it such that "medicaid paid 850 dollars and your responsibility is 2 dollars." Because I honestly think that people have NO IDEA how much rx drugs cost, especially when they've always gotten them for free.

AFM - My mom thinks my gpa will die today. I won't go into detail, but she's described it all to me in email and sounds like he's pretty close. Sad Soooo sad for my dad. My dad's family is SO close and it has been really hard for all of them. I'm so glad for my grandma that her kids (my dad and his brother and two sisters) are all still very close to home and all very close to each other. I'm just happy to know she'll have them around. I'm really the farthest family member away, and I'm still only ~1.5 hour away.

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Virginia - Evan tossed the upstairs scale in the tub the other night LOL WHOOPS! We still have another downstairs though

Ashley - he's soooo cute I see a lot of Brekke in him

Mary - so sorry about your grandpa. I hope it's peaceful and the family copes as well as they can

Evan was up at 6am. UGH. That's an hour earlier than daycare days and 1.5-2 hours earlier than normal! He's still got a bit of diarrhea and we made the mistake of pasta and sauce last night and I think his stomach was a bit off. Some nice bland eggs and wheat toast for bfast. He's in a great mood but he's going to get crabby fast when it hits.....

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Mary - :bighug:

Katie - Hope Evan's sickness clears up soon.

*AFM*

At work today, have lots to do, not too much going on otherwise.

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Mary - :bighug:

Katie - hope Evan feels better soon. Raymond was up at 6 today, but he just went downstairs and fell bask asleep on the couch. Lol Goofball.

Ash - I'm glad everything is going so well!

I'm going to see my mom tomorrow. she's mostly doing well. There's one little complication, but it should be easily fixed if it doesn't fix itself.
Meanwhile, I seem to have another cyst in my breast. I had one while BFing Alex. I've been kind of brushing it off since it feels the same. But, since my mom did just have breast cancer, I guess I'll be calling the Ob Monday.

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my mom just called me to let me know that my grandpa just passed away. Sad feeling sad when i think of holidays and things without him. glad that he 's no longer suffering, though...

ETA: no fb comments on that please... several family members still don't know.

a pic of the sweet man with Sean at Easter last year (and my dad holding Sean, it was his dad who passed away).

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So sorry for your loss Mary. :bighug:

Katie - I hope Evan is feeling better!

Virginia - I'm glad that you'll call the OB on Monday.

Ashley - Dane is such a handsome little man!

AFM - I'm addicted to Pinterest and finding home decor (we're looking at houses now!) and ideas to use in my classroom. School starts on the 22nd, inservice is the entire week before. Claire went to daycare yesterday and today because I had workshops. It's so funny to see how social she is after a day there. She was talkative before, but now it's nonstop! Smile So cute!

Quick Question: The daycare teacher wants to change Claire's schedule. Her current one isn't strict anyway, so no biggie to me... But I want your opinion.

Right now, I nurse her in the morning and right afterward I feed her some rice cereal and a fruit. Then I nurse her 3 hours later and give her a veggie.

Daycare wants me to start giving her cereal and fruit 2 hours after I first nurse her. (Or they'll feed her if it's a daycare day) then wait 2 hours and nurse her. Then another 2 hours for a veggie, and another 2 hours later nurse. Is this a normal schedule for solids? I'm so new to all this that I'm a bit confused. Ha!

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SO sorry Mary - that's a beautiful picture.

Laura - Hmm I don't really recall but I think Evan was pretty flexible you could always give it a try and see how she does if she doesn't do well push to not change it. Evan's older but I think his eating patterns at daycare are much different than home and always have been (even when he was bottles etc) and he just does whatever works at daycare and whatever works at home and it doesn't seem to ever bother him to swap around.

I just got back from the memorial service for my friend. So sad. She was a wonderful woman. Finishing her first year of ministry school, an active volunteer in her church and with us in dog rescue, all of her coworkers from her lab came (microbiologist when not in seminary). Her husband got up and spoke about her and it was heartbreaking. He's this big happy man like 6'1" burly kind of guy that big teddy bear type. And he was just so sad. We will miss her.

Argh Evan's bum was looking much better but that darn pasta sauce did us in today. Stupid mommy. I should have known better but the kid LOVES pasta and sauce and it's th eonly way to get him to eat ground turkey so I like to give it to him. I should have held off. And then I went out to the service tonight and didn't remind DH to give him a bath -- b/c lately DH has been giving me snotty remarks for reminding him of things and sure enough to didn't give the damn bath. UGH. I didn't remind him b/c I figured he knew raw bum, Friday night, bath night. Nope didn't do it. AARRGGHHH. Next time I remind him and get a snide response I'll point tonight out!

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Hello all. My mom emailed, and she might be coming to my area today to shop for something to wear for the funeral, so we might get to see her and my dad. I'm a little nervous to see my dad... He has been a disaster through this whole thing since my gpa's illness began right around the first of the year. Just pretty stressed, depressed, etc. He was very close to his dad, visits his parents almost every day (they just live a few minutes from each other)... I've only seen my dad cry a few times ever, so I'm just not looking forward to that. It'll probably cause me to lose it.

My mom said my dad has been to the bank this morning making deposits for my grandma. She had somewhere in the realm of 7-15,000 dollars hidden in the house, lol. What is it with old people and hiding money in their houses? My DH said probably has to do with depression era and banks failing, people losing money, etc. My grandparents would've just been babies during the late end of the depression, but they probably learned some of that from their parents I guess.

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Hello all. We had a pretty good day yesterday, despite all the sad stuff. My parents came up to shop for some new dress clothes for the funeral. I decided I needed some new dressy clothes myself and spent $300. Oops. I don't know how my DH hasn't killed me yet, but the spending spree is over now, I swear! I got my bonus check and that refund from the doc's office last week, so that makes up for it, hah. We went to dinner after that, then came back to my house for a bit. Sean was soooooo wound up. He first had my parents chasing him through the house for a while, then my dad laid on the floor and Sean climbed onto his back and jumped off over and over and over..

Then Sean and my dad were throwing Sean's giant green ball back and forth for a while. Then my dad got the idea to pretend he was going to throw it hard, but then catch it with his own hands before it hit Sean. Sean thought that was HILARIOUS and was laughing SO hard. But then... CALVIN started laughing at it, from across the room. So my dad started doing it to him, and he was laughing the hardest I've ever heard him laugh. It was freaking awesome. He laughs a lot, but I've just never seen such a small baby laugh so hard.

So it was pretty good. I did notice my dad looking a bit depressed during dinner, so it was nice to have some good laughs after that.

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Mary - I bet playing with the boys was good "therapy" for your dad. Spending time with kids like that is always a good reminder of all the good things. Hey you need new clothing to go with the boots! I was thinking I'd love some boots but I have no pants that would really work with them.....maybe once baby #2 arrives and I lose the weight then I can go on a spree too LOL

Nothing exciting here. Evan has been up early lately. Ugh. Makes for a tired mommy b/c I haven't been going to bed before midnight. I need to fix that. Relaxing day here Smile

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