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It's my baby month officially!! :woohoo:

Katie: I'm having a June baby and am leaving town at the end of June AND the 4th of July. I've traveled at 3 weeks with both others no problem. I just try to wear them as much as possible to keep people away Wink Sorry the baby bug is hitting you so hard!

Mary: :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug:

Virginia: No luck with DTD either but we'll keep trying Wink It's just so much work at this point (LOL) buuuuut I keep reminding DH that we'll have to take the next month and a half off so we're going to do it dang it! He knows I have other motives too of course... It's never worked for me in the past in getting labor going but that doesn't stop me.

Happy June girls. Still nothing going on labor wise over here, my body just loves to hang onto these babies I guess! I'm thinking the kids and I will plant a few flowers and plants today since the weather is supposed to be nice and DH is stuck at work all day.

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YAY BABY MONTH!! You will have a new baby this month! CRAZY! Really on the travel? That's cool...I'm not sure a week at the beach a month PP is my dream but you're right it could probably work. We rent a house, what's the big deal? Even if I stay back sometimes and DH take E&R to the beach...it could work Smile You are all better wives than I am at the end I was giant and miserable and DH got NONE LOL

I wish my fertile time in Sept wasn't the week before my sister's wedding putting her wedding smack in the middle of the 2WW. BAH! LOL If I got preg in August and was....about 9 weeks preg at my sister's wedding...I think my dress would fit...right? Smile

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Katie - Your dress would probably fit, but 9 weeks is where I'm usually at the worst of my nausea!!

Ashley - Can't believe you're 2 days from EDD! Come on out, little one! good luck with the traveling!

AFM - hoping for some news tomorrow. good news preferably, but with the way i feel, it's pretty impossible to be optimistic.

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Oh Mary I keep hoping you'll post that things have totally turned around and you're feeling so much better Sad If the scans all come back normal do you start looking for other causes because I agree...it sounds like something beyond anxiety. Good luck I'm still hoping you can find some treatable cause.

Hm I tend to forget about m/s b/c I have never had much....I didn't throw up once with E and maybe once with Rory.

Rory did decide to remind me how fun babies are though. He was up at 10:30, 1:30 and 3:30 last night. (He sleeps 8-6/7 with out fail and has for the last 6-8 months). He's cutting his eye teeth which I remember from Evan were brutal. I finally tylenol'd him up and let him cry b/c he was crying whether I held him or not. He did sleep until 8 though and took a good nap today so maybe he's feeling better now. It was just a little reminder of all the fun a newborn is....

I found a little motivation and applied to 2 home based (with travel of course) jobs today. Not sure either will have any real chances but at least I'm trying....

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Katie: awe poor Rory Sad (and you!) My 2 haven't handled teeth well either. I'm dreading Dane's 2 year molars that should be coming around soon. I think a wedding in the middle of your 2ww would be perfect because you'd be occupied for a few days of it, but that's just me!

Mary: sending all the positive thoughts I can towards good news today for you! :vibes:

I have an OB appt tomorrow morning and we'll set an induction date so I'll have an official end date in sight! I'd still love for this kid to come on his own, but at the same time, I'm so ready for him to be out too. I feel surprisingly good and everything, but just feel like my life has been in limbo the last couple weeks waiting to see what happens... Ended up spending all day Saturday planing flowers and doing yardwork and have a little leftover to finish today (couple plants didn't get put in the ground, was too tired yesterday to go roast in the sun again!). Might make some cookies or something too...just trying to make the day go by quickly!

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good luck, Mary. I'm hoping you get good news today.

Ashley - I hope you're making real progress and don't need an induction date.

Katie - I was 8w pregnant (with Oliver) at my sister's September wedding (yes, with hyperemesis and, thankfully, zofran). The dress fit fine. I found someone who could do fitting the week before the wedding just in case. September isn't too busy so it was pretty easy to put off the alterations and still find someone.
I agree that the wedding should help a 2ww pass!

AFM: hanging in there. I'm enjoying every day.
I do think I felt a kick to my cervix the other day. Not sure how that would be possible because there's no way the placenta could have moved so quickly.

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Ashley - Hope baby comes on his own soon, if not I hope your labor is nice and easy for being induced.

Virginia - Did you have a good time at the wedding?

Mary - Did they do any hormone tests, maybe that's what's causing all your trouble. Hope things are sorted out soon.

Katie - Hope you can figure things out, I was not good at waiting, and I don't think I could be at TTC. Do these people leaving jobs leave room for you to advance and is it worth taking? That can be a positive spin.

*AFM*

The dog MIL is getting now I am pretty sure is from a backyard breeder, don't get me going on that.

Did my 5K run for Dystonia, my cousin and Dana (DD1) came in 3rd in their categroies. Everyone had a good run. Unfortunately my pulled hip got irritated by the run, I'll have to go easy for a while, bit of a challange with a 4 year old.

I am in the office today the computers are being a royal pain, and since I am the most knowledgable, I have to deal with them. Yet I am still very limited in what I can do cause I am far from an expert.

I'd love to go home early and just sleep today.

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Ashley - Waiting patiently for your LO to arrive!!

Virginia - Glad you're able to enjoy the pregnancy despite the concerns. I hope it continues to go well.

Katie - Good luck with the job search! And yeah, teething sucks. I still don't think Calvin has his 2-yr molars. I need to check again.

AFM - I called the doc around noon to see if the results of my neuro tests were in. The woman who answered the phone told me she just got them and was getting ready to put them on the doc's desk, and that he should get back to me today or tomorrow. Ugh... The nerve-wrecking wait continues and this headache is killing me... Sad I have so many worries about the health situation. I *NEED* to be healthy for the boys, ya know? I've always been healthy, and to just feel like it has been ripped from me is just the worst. I woke up with blurred vision in my left eye this morning again. It comes and goes. I just cried in DH's arms. Cray 2

In other news, we took the boys to the allergist today. It was Calvin's first time. He tested only mildly allergic to milk and egg. She said since he already does milk and doesn't have problems with it, we can continue it... Thank goodness! She said his egg allergy appears mild enough that he could still eat it baked into things, like cakes or whatever. She wants us to get him blood tested to get a more precise idea of how allergic he is, then we'll schedule an oral challenge in the office. We'll bring a baked good with egg in it to the office and they'll feed him small amounts of it and observe to see if he tolerates it well. He tested negative for peanut/tree nut allergy, but I really doubt he has ever been exposed, because we avoid it for Sean. The allergist seemed confident that if he were going to test allergic to nuts, it would show up by now, so she doesn't think he's going to have problems with it. But since I have concerns about it, we'll do an in-office oral challenge with him on those too.

I'm scared, because she said Sean's numbers for his peanut and egg allergy are still quite high. Sad I asked about the "peanut free" tables and such at school, and she said she does recommend it for him, at least for now. She said usually by 1st or 2nd grade, they're able to understand the need to be careful with their foods enough that they can sit with the other kids. I just hate the thought of separating him. He's also testing allergic to tree pollen and mold now. I figured he had acquired some environmental ones because he has been sneezy and itchy acting this Spring. Blah.

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Poor Sean. I'm glad Cal's allergies are more mild.
I'll be thinking of you, Mary. I hope the doctor gets back to you soon.

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Tests came back normal, omg!!!!! Doc will continue to monitor me, but said the tests looked perfect and he can't see anything horribly wrong.

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Yahoo what fantastic news! I am so, so, happy for you, Mary!
Are there any other tests or anything planned to try to figure out why so many weird things keep happening to you?

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WAHOOOOOOOOOO! I have been checking ALL day Mary! I am SO happy for you! I know you still have to deal with whatever is going on physically but you don't have some horrible test results that confirm something awful and that is a great place to be! I'm so happy for you!

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Well he wants to give it a week or two. He thinks some of it could be related to my low calcium, which is back up to normal range now. So he wants to give it a bit of time and see if it improves at all. If not, he'll see me back in a couple weeks for another exam. If all else fails, he said he could send me to OSU and see what they have to say. Bigger hospital, more specialists, etc. I'm also going to try to decrease the doses of the blood pressure med and the zoloft and see if that helps at all. The BP has come down nicely, has been running like 100/60 and I've been getting some postural hypotension that leaves me feeling dizzy/lightheaded, so I think I'm ready to slowly decrease the dose a bit. I see my regular doc on Wednesday, so we can discuss that then. I still don't know why I tingle, have pain in my hands (could still be leftover from the low calcium and potassium, I guess, although I would think that would begin to improve), have weird internal vibrating sensations (maybe a side effect of zoloft and/or anxiety)... Lots of unanswered questions, but I'm glad the answer is not what I thought/feared it was. Who knows what's going on with me...

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Good luck, Mary. The postural hypotension sucks, but it's better than high BP.

AFM: feeling kind of blue. I'm doing such a bad job not lifting Oliver, because he asks for it all the time. And if I try to take it easy I never get to play with the kids because they're so active right now. I feel like I can either be a good mom to the kids I have or the baby I'm growing, but not both.

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Such great news Mary!! Frustrating that you still don't know what's been causing the random issues but yaaaaaaaay to a clean bill of health from the MRI and everything. So happy for you!

Virginia: sorry you are struggling with keeping everyone happy (inside and out).

I've been contracting all afternoon again. No established pattern though and not getting worse so I don't see a baby in the very near future but at least my body is keeping me guessing!

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Ashley - you could try to DTD in spite of the contractions. (Ha.) When my water broke with Oliver and my contractions stopped the MW actually told me to go back home and DTD. I was pretty surprised. And revolted by the idea I was so tired.

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Mary - I'm soooo happy everything came back normal!! As for the internal vibrating, as someone who suffers from anxiety (I don't talk about it much here, but I have anxiety issues) I ALWAYS get that internal vibrating/buzzing feeling, sometimes even when I think I'm okay. From what I understand, anxiety builds in your system so even if you might feel okay at the moment, there's still built up pressure from when you were anxious about something before and it can come out at any time. When I had a panic attack a year or so ago (that time I was in the ER) I was actually just fine for about a day or so before it happened, so it seemed to happen out of the blue - but days prior I was super anxious and stressed about something and it was from that. I'm not saying that's what it is, it just sounds quite similar to what I experience.

Ash - omg I can't believe how close you are!!!!! I hope your contractions pick up.

Virginia - I hope you felt a cervix kick! I'm sorry you have to do so much preparing for the baby this early, but hopefully you'll never have to use any of your preparations.

Amanda - sorry your mil is getting another pet. She really doesn't sound like a good pet owner.

Jen - I hope the house stuff works out!

Everyone else HI!!!

AFM - just got back from a week up north with our families. It was actually a lot of fun and not at all stressful. I can remember traveling with Xander as a baby and it was always awful! But Benjamin is just so chill compared to Xander as a baby, haha. Though I also let him sleep in bed with us all week, so I'm sure that helped. I just didn't want to deal with getting him in a PnP. We're back home now, though, and he's sleeping in his crib just fine. Phew! I'm glad he didn't reject it.

I was a giant pita to everyone the entire time because of my soy allergy, so that made me feel bad. I swear my mom and MIL apologized to me ten gillion times because they didn't have stuff for me to eat. I felt so bad... I didn't expect anyone to go out of their way, I just figured I'd go get my own food if need be... But once they realized just how much stuff soy was in they both kind of freaked about it and just seemed to feel so bad. BUt then my mom got mad at me for not eating one of my aunts brownies that were made with Crisco (soy oil first ingredient). She thought I was going to make my aunt feel bad. Um, so I should make myself sick to make my aunt feel good? That's just my mom, though, she never wants to make anyone feel bad and I honestly think she just doesn't get allergies. Her thinking is that I've been eating soy all this time and I'm okay. Sure, I'm alive and stuff, but I've felt so super crappy for so freakin' long and finally figured out a big piece of the puzzle as to why... But I guess since she's on the outside looking in she doesn't really get it. Anyway, so my aunt didn't feel bad at all, she totally understood just like I knew she would.

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Mary - Happy to hear your tests were normal. Hope that helps put your mind at ease. You are saying that the low calcium and potassium might be causing some issues, maybe try taking a vitamin supplement? Doctors here recommend taking a prenatal vitamin for about 3 months after pregnancy.

Virginia - Sorry it's rough trying to deal with kids and a pregnancy, maybe try and find something you can all do without you being to physically active.

Ashley - You need to send that eviction notice to baby boy.

Lauren - Good to hear that the boys were good on the trip and it was fun. Dealing with food allergies is a pain, we often cater to my BIL at family gatherings he can't have gluten. I totally wouldn't feel bad if you couldn't eat what I made, though I use butter over shortening anyway so you'd be good.

*AFM*

I totally forgot all the tests my doctor did for my stomach came back normal, good and bad since I don't know what is wrong. My doctor is being a pain and not much help she just wants to treat the symptoms with medication and not find the root cause, I obviously want answers.

I am thinking that food sensitivity is part of it, when I mentioned that she told me to do an elimination diet on my own (without advice on how to do it) see if it made a difference, thanks a lot. I think lactose might be one of them it seems if I have dairy I get lots of gas, bloating and pain. Dehydration is another big one I am sure, gotta remember keep hydrated.

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Appointment today was pretty much the same as my others - no progress (still about 1 cm despite so much cramping and contracting, ugh!), BP was great, baby sounds good and is head down. He gave me the option to wait it out until Monday or go in Thursday - I asked if he thought it was worth waiting out until Monday and he basically said not really but it was totally my choice. So we're going with Thursday to kick this baby out unless he surprises us before then. Honestly, that works a lot better for me so DH can be around for the first 2 days I'm home anyway assuming baby comes the day we go in vs if we came home on like a Wednesday, he'd be in and out with work for the first few days. IF I'd gone in and had made some progress, I'd probably be waiting it out until Monday in hopes of going into labor on my own but where I'm still not really progressing, I don't want to wait it out another week for nothing so sounds like it's baby week!

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Yay for a date! I'll still send you labor vibes in the meantime.

Amanda - I had weird stomach issues in college with nausea, vomiting, an aversion to water, etc. I went to several doctors and everything always came back as normal. Eventually I realized it was all anxiety related. It is so frustrating when you know something is wrong but the doctors try to tell you you're okay. I hope you can figure it out on your own. Getting rid of diary sounds like a good start.

Mary - how are you doing today?

Lauren - sorry the allergies gave you trouble. My family has never had food allergy issues, but my sister's BF (hopefully soon fiance) is extremely allergic to soy. He has ended up hospitalized several times because of it. I'm always terrified to cook/buy food for them because I don't want to mess up and have soy in it. Especially since he's okay with some part of soy (protein or oil or something) but not the rest of it.

AFM: I was at a playgroup this morning and was pretty open about my PP. Three of the women there had friends/sisters who were pregnant with it right now. One was about to have a c/s at 38w and had had no problems from the previa. One was on bedrest at 29w after spending 4 days in the hospital at 27w with a big bleed. One's previa cleared. Ugh. So varied!

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Lauren - I'm sorry about the allergies. I can imagine my family being weird about stuff like that I think like your mom mine would think I'd "just be ok" or something. She wouldn't really get it. I'm glad the boys were good though and the trip was fun

Ashley - I can't believe you will have a baby no later than THURSDAY! Totally crazy! I'm so excited and crazy jealous Smile

Virginia - Try not to worry....sounds like you're doing what you can to take care of yourself, not much more you can do than that though I'm sure that doesn't help

Mary - I hope everything is hormone, deficiency and stress related and as everything goes back to normal the strange symptoms subside for you. You had all those stomach bugs at the end of your pregnancy I bet your body is so darn tired!

Amanda - GL with the stomach issues Sad I hope you can figure it out

AFM - Nothing exciting here. Same old Smile

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Ashley - Too bad you didn't see any progress, great to hear all is well and you have a date set.

Virginia - Hopefully the Previa clears up, try not to stress too much since there isn't too much you can do about it.

Everyone else Hi! :wavehello:

*AFM*

Went to the dentist yesterday, to get a filling replaced, it was awful, I should have been picky about the dentist doing the work (the office I go to has multiple dentists) I don't like Dr C's bed side manners, thankfully his assistant made up for it she was really friendly. My jaw still hurts today from the work. It cost a bit more for the procedure then I thought it would ($330) thankfully the insurance money was deposited this morning.

Just a quiet day at work today.

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Amanda - Sorry no answers on the stomach stuff. Hopefully it will help to eliminate dairy. I still take my prenatal vitamin.. They recommend we keep taking it the whole time we're BFing. I've also been instructed by the doc to take a calcium supplement and 4000 units of vitamin D daily (that's pretty high for a daily dose, but mine was pretty low). And I did 9 days of potassium supplements, with high doses on the first two days.

Lauren - I feel ya on the food allergy thing. I feel like my IL's feelings gets hurt sometimes when Sean can't eat stuff they try to give him, and I feel over-the-top mama-bear as they watch me reading labels. Ugh. I've actually been reading a lot about the desensitization treatments, and I'm seriously considering putting him through a program. There's a doctor who is recommended a LOT for the treatment on food allergy forums who is located about 4 hours away in Michigan. I emailed their office and actually got a very fast response... They said they've never had an insurance refuse it, so that gives me hope that it will be covered. I was expecting it to be about 5-10K out of pocket based on things I've read. Sometimes by the end of the treatment, they can freely incorporate peanut (or whatever food, they do several) into their diet. I'm not even concerned with that... I just want that comfort of knowing he could accidentally eat something with peanut and not have a potentially life-threatening reaction.

Ashley - Woohoo for having an end in sight! I hope it happens on its own!

Virginia - Sorry you're not feeling like you can be the best mom to all of them at the same time. I've pretty much felt that way since Nolan was born, especially with these health concerns and anxiety. Ugh.

Katie - Hello! How are the boys doing? And the baby fever? Smile

AFM - I saw my doc yesterday and my BP was 75/50 when he checked it... Needless to say, we've dramatically decreased the dose of BP med (back to my pregnancy dose for now, which was pretty much as low as it gets for this med). I also decreased the dose of zoloft from 100mg to 75mg, trying to alleviate some side effects. Not sure if that was the best idea, as my anxiety level has gone up, but some side effects have calmed down, so it's a trade-off. I really don't like this med... Wish there were more options for BFing. At the same time, I don't really want to change a med and have to adjust again to something new. Still having tingling, particularly in my left hand/foot, as well as horrible head/neck ache and weird achy pain in my hands and feet. Ugh... I'm ready to be normal. Still scared about this weirdness, although I am happy for a good MRI.

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Hm was today induction day for Ashley? I FB stalked but didn't see any news....hoping there are baby snuggles going one Smile

Amanda - hope your mouth is feeling better, ugh!

Mary - I know nothing about allergies but I hope you can get that treatment! Sounds like it would be one less thing to worry about. I'm glad your BP is getting back to normal, now I hope everything else follows!

Boys are good! Rory had his 18 month appointment today. 25lbs 3 oz and 33 1/2" (Evan was 26lbs and 33 3/4" they remain so close). He was good, another mild ear infection. He had a wicked cold last week and had red ears. The doc called in antibiotics and he is totally my favorite doc but I just asked if he thought Rory needed them. I've read that they aren't always necessary for ears etc etc and he's almost over the cold and sleeping fine, eating fine, playing. Doc gave me a bit of attitude. I wasn't arguing I was just curious...sheesh. Of course I totally forgot to pick the damn ab's up -- so I'm that mom who will show up a day later to pick them up. We aren't all dead beats LOL

Oh the baby fever rages on. I told DH as of August protection is on him. I really don't want to get preg June or July but Aug it's game on for me, DH wants October so I told him it becomes his job Smile

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We had our little guy!! Can't get pictures to upload on here because the hospital's internet won't let me go to Photobucket, but he and I are both doing great! He was born yesterday afternoon and is 7lbs 3 oz and 18.5". We named him Hudson and his siblings are in love with him (especially DD who thinks she can take care of him all on her own..eek!). Working on writing up a birth story and everything too but need to get some rest.

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Ashley - Saw the post on fb, CONGRATS!!! And I love his name. :party:

Katie - You're right. Most ear infections actually are self-limiting and will heal on their own. There is a fair deal of debate on what is better... Antibiotics (generally takes high doses to treat it) or ride it out. I guess each case is probably different, so the treatment will be also.

AFM - Katie's post about Rory's 18-mo appointment reminded me that I never posted an update here about Nolan's 1-month appointment. He had gained almost FOUR pounds!! He went from 6lb 4oz at birth to 10lb 2oz at one month. WOW! The doctor walked in and said, "Do you think that weight increase is correct?" LOL. I told her he does look a lot chunkier now. He has fat cheeks and this little double chin. And a fat belly. So cute to watch them chunk up. And he wants to eat CONSTANTLY, so I'm not at all surprised. He's becoming a lot more alert. He hasn't officially smiled yet, but I think he's getting close. He has given me several sorta half-smiles. Like he's happy and sorta smiling, but not the full-on gummy grin yet.

I'm still feeling a lot like crap. The pain in my neck and head is so nasty. I wish it would go away. Maybe they really did hit spinal fluid with my epidural? If they did, is there a treatment for that, or does it just need to resolve on its own? Does anyone know?

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Mary - Good to hear your BP is doing better, hope the rest of your troubles clear up too.

Katie - I totally understand why you would ask about the antibiotics my doctor wouldn't have even given them, if the infection isn't bad doctors don't prescribe medicine.

Ashley - Congrats, welcome Hudson.

*AFM*

OMG getting my prescription this month was a nightmare, I called about a week early then just went in to pick it up, they said they hadn't heard back from the doctor, so I left. I got a call later that night and was told that they received a fax back saying to request the medication from my family doctor, my family doctor doesn't deal with my medicine for my neurological problem, my neurologist does, since it was past doctors hours I left it for the night. Called the neurologist's office in the morning I spoke with one of the secretaries and she couldn't figure things out right away. She then called back and let me know that they never received the fax and also reassured me that they would never make me request the medication from my family doctor. I called the pharmacy back after that and told them what the neurologists office told me the pharmacist actually said to me "why would we lie to you?" implying that I was calling them liars, I explained no I think it may have been a mistake in maybe faxing the request, sure enough they had a 3 where there should have been a 5. In the end I got my prescription but I really don't like the way I was treated by the pharmacy, the entire time they were acting like I was being unreasonable when it was their mistake that was causing all the trouble.

Really nothing much going on here, just working today, should get focusing on that instead of playing about on the internet.

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Ashley - congrats! How was the delivery? I can't wait to see pictures. Smile That leaves just me, huh? Hopefully it'll be another 4 months before we meet our little guy.

Mary - oh, yeah, the epidural! I wonder if that could be to blame. Have you asked your doctor? Way to go getting Nolan to gain weight!

Amanda - huh, maybe time to switch pharmacies?

Katie - I'd wait on the antibiotics unless he develops a fever. That's how my pediatrician does it. GL with the baby fever. Even with all my concerns I've told DH we're not necessarily done. If the end of this pregnancy turns into a nightmare but we get a healthy baby in the end we're probably done. If it all turns out well with little stress then... well... we'll see. Wink

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I use this pharmacy because I can be awful at remembering to pick up my prescription during regular hours and they are open until midnight.

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Well we kind of started the antibiotics lol Rory hates them so it is so so. But my doc isn't really a med happy sort and he said clearly if it were his child's ears he would treat them but he could have been nice and educational instead he was kind of a **** but he has sent us home with viral infections plenty of times with no meds and my kids like him so I will take his advice maybe he was just having a bad day.

Mary yay chubby baby! Add a few ounces and you have my newborns haha I really don't want another nearly 11 pound baby...

Amanda boo for the hassle!

Virginia I fully expect a fifth for you

Ashley congrats and I love the name

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I love our pediatrician. She's always wonderful with the kids and is pretty laid back. She's completely unconcerned about Raymond's bedwetting and Alex's weight and Oliver's slow speech. And, she's a developmental pediatrician, so if baby does come early (or Oliver's speech never takes off) we're in really good hands.

baby has taken to hanging out transverse. It feels so weird! My others never really did that. I guess the low placenta is making different positions comfortable.

ETA: Katie, you should hurry up and TTC so I have some company!

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Yes to my doctor's credit when I was worried about Evan's refusal to poop on the potty he was totally laid back he actually said "he will go before college" lol and he always allows most of the exam in my arms. I should probably just give him a pass on one crabby response. There are three docs at atthe office I really like which is nice I almost never see anyone I don't like even for last minute sick visits

Well I have a dress to get in in Sept so June and July are out. Anyone else thinking of ttc? Jen?

Two pg.org fb friends had babies this week, one from Rory's bb they are killing me Smile

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Katie - Not I! I am SO done. I never thought I'd really feel done, but I do. We've been discussing the big V lately. It's a little sad for me to think about doing something permanent, but I really am done. All these weird problems I've had PP has solidified it for me. My DH wants to do the V before I return to work because he's expecting to be debilitated for a few days and that would be rough as a SAHD with three LO's.

Virginia - I don't think mine ever really laid transverse either. Well, who knows about Calvin.. I barely felt him with the anterior placenta. I'm glad I could feel Nolan really well and he was very active. Feeling movement is my favorite thing about pregnancy and I really got to enjoy it for my last time.

Amanda - Booo for crappy pharmacy service. Too bad you can't come to me, I'd take good care of ya.. haha Wink

Katie - Can't wait for you to TTC again. I need to stalk someone, see pictures of pee sticks, etc. Smile

AFM - The other day when I was in the waiting room for my appointment with my family doc, I was reading a magazine about Summer events and things to do in our state. In there, I found a park here locally that has this HUGE splash fountain that you can go and play in. We've lived here going on 5 years and I never knew this place existed. Anyway, it looks like something the boys would LOVE, so I knew I wanted to take them. Well I posted it on fb today and my long-lost half-uncle (who is only 6 months older than me) responded and asked if I wanted to meet him and his gf and their two DD's there tomorrow. Their kids are really close in age to ours. Their oldest is only a week younger than Sean and then their younger one is maybe a couple months younger than Calvin. Should be a good time... I just hope I'm feeling well with all the tingling and crappiness I've had going on.

In other news, I decided to have Sean's birthday party at our house this year. In the past when we've done that, we've just invited very immediate family and kept it small. Well, this time, I assumed most people wouldn't come because we live far away from everyone, so I invited everyone including extended family and some friends I haven't seen in a while. I just made an event and invited people on facebook. Well, within the first few hours, our tally is up to like 24 people... And no one from DH's family has responded yet, but they're usually better about showing up than my family... So I'm expecting this could get kinda large. That should be interesting. I really hope the weather is nice so people can hang out in the back yard. I ordered an inflatable kiddie pool thing that has a slide and stuff and looks like fun. I'm going to use our new ice cream maker to make a variety of ice creams and sorbets to offer. It should be fun, but omg, it could end up being hectic... But in awesome news, my BFF from childhood is coming. I haven't seen her in, omg, probably 8 years (time flies)... I've never met her DS who will be 2 here in a few months. I'm so excited to see her and meet him. Smile

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I posted his birth story on my BB here for those who wanted to see it. It's really long sorry. The short answer is yes the birth went really well, a little hiccup with him swallowing blood so I didn't get to do skin to skin or really even hold him for almost 20 minutes but I'm glad they got him sucked out and he's doing fabulous now! And I got the shock of my life getting ZERO tears which has been incredible compared to my other two! He came out in only a handful of pushes & his shoulders actually took the longer to get out than his head. I feel like I could *almost* go for a run at this point Wink

I promise to catch up on the thread later. We're going home later this morning, yay! Milk is coming in and I forgot how unpleasant that is...

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Ashley - I just realized all your kiddos have 23-month spacing. I'll be waiting for your next one in May 2015! Wink Off to read the birth story next.

AFM - Still stressed/scared about all this weird tingling and stuff. I hate it when it happens to my head (yes, it came back, ugh). It was today when we were out in the sun and the sun was hot on my head. That makes me scared again about the MS thing, because a lot of people have worsening symptoms when hot. But you'd think that after a month of symptoms, there would be SOMETHING on the MRI. I was reading that new lesions usually appear any time symptoms last longer than 24 hours. I dunno. It's all very unnerving and scary.

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Mary - I wish it would just stop for you Sad I wonder if you were on to anything with the epidural thoughts? I hope it just stops! Hope the party is great though Smile I need a summer baby so at least one kid can have a real party

Ashley - LOVE the FB pics. Precious.

AFM - DH's dad is in the hospital. I guess he got dehydrated but they are worried about his blood counts and are keeping him at least until Monday. He's in his 80s and not in great healthy. It's making DH very short tempered - whenever he's worried or stressed he's short tempered and I know it's just that he's worried but ugh not fun. I tried talking to him tonight about potentially looking at doctor options for baby #3 -- I'd REALLY like someone more in line with natural birth and he just blew me off. We had healthy kids I should be happy. Sigh. I can do no meds easily, I'd like to have baby #3 with out IVs etc and my doc won't do it. DH is absolutely NOT ok with a home birth but just kind of blows me off on the rest. Sigh. Maybe it's just his mood....

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Katie - look for a new doctor! Or a MW practice. My MW are super natural birth friendly but attend at a hospital. Or maybe a birth center. I wish there were one of those in my area.

Ashley - I'm glad you're doing so well!

Mary - GL. The party sounds great. We haven't done a bday party yet.

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I wish we had a birth center but there isn't one...the closest is NYC and that won't work Smile

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Katie - I always wanted to switch to someone more natural-birth friendly also, but my DH loves my OB and didn't want me to switch, lol. I like him too (as a person), but just don't always see eye to eye with him on things. But yes, healthy babies is the end goal and I got that, so I'm happy. Sorry to hear your FIL isn't doing well and your DH is crabby. I hope it improves soon.

AFM - My cousin just sent me a PM on fb to tell me she's pregnant!! She said it's mostly a secret, she's only 9 weeks, but she wanted to catch me before I go getting rid of my maternity clothes because she needs some. She already has two girls. The oldest is maybe 6 or 7, the youngest turned two in May. I'll be anxious to see if this one is a girl or boy, because seriously, I am the only person in my family with boys other than some older teenage ones... And I have THREE. LOL. Everyone else has girls, so I'd be shocked if this one's a boy.

Yesterday, we met my mom's half-brother (who is actually only 6 months older than me, haha) and his girlfriend and their two DD's at this park sorta place downtown where they have huge sprinklers/fountains you can play in. It was actually pretty cold. I was going to wait until a warmer day to take our kids, but he was all enthusiastic about it and we don't get to see them much, so I said we'd go. Well, we were disappointed to find that it was closed for "repairs" when we got there... We asked a worker if it was going to open back up, and he said yes, they had to clean it because someone got sick in it (eww). It took like two hours before it was open again.... The kids just ran around and played tag and stuff. I was almost ready to leave when they finally turned it on around 5pm. Sean REFUSED to play in it. He didn't want anything to do with it... I was shocked, because he LOVED playing in water last year. I think he might have been overwhelmed because there was a huge art festival going on in the area and there were a ton of people there. Calvin, on the other hand, was going NUTS playing in the water. It was hilarious. Random people were stopping to watch him play in it, and my mom said some people were even taking pictures of him (which is odd to me, but whatever...). He got SO cold, but he would not get out of it. I kept asking him if he was all done and he'd say, "No! Water!!" So I let him play in it, but I swear he stayed in it until he got to the point where he was blue, so I took him out and we called it a day.

Here are some pics my mom took:

Bonus pic with me, haha. Wink

This is just some random little girl that was playing there around Calvin, but I thought it was too cute. Wink Those little fountains would get low for a few seconds, then shoot up really high over their heads. They were trying to cover them with their hands, but then of course the other ones would just shoot up and hit them in the faces, haha.

Sean running (yes he really has both of his legs, haha):

ETA: Just realized my mom hadn't taken any of Nolan, but he was with us too.
So just for good measure, here's my most recent Nolan pic. The hat and diaper cover thingie were made by a girl on my June 2009 board. Smile

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So cute Mary! and you look great!

We went to a sprinkler park yesterday, too. This is the first year Raymond will go in the water. Give Sean some time. I'll have to take photos sometime because we have matching tie-dye shirts for the family. Dorky, I know, but it's amazing in a crowded park/museum. We can spot the kids easily and they can spot us easily (yesterday was the first day with Mommy and Daddy tie-dye shirts). I made sizes 18m-10/12 and have an extra set of dye in case I need more. And at my dad's suggestion we used sharpie to write our cell phone numbers on the front hem of the kids' shirts. The older ones know they have their phone numbers there if they can't find us. Biggrin

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Katie - I am in agreeance with Virginia, find a more natural doctor. The only reason I did't pass on a doctor with Natalie is because I had so many medical problems, my plan was to actually use a midwife, which are accepted and paid for by the Ontario gouvernment. Had I been healthy I would have still given birth in hospital even with a midwife, but that's because my city is too small for birth centres.

Mary - Your pictures of the boys are adorable. Wonder how Natalie will do at our splash pad this year, it's small but the kids like it, she loved it last year.

Virginia - The shirt idea is wonderful. The other thing I heard of doing, for if your kid gets lost, is make a bracelet with your phone number that the kids can wear. You can even do it with plastic beads and let the kids help out.

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ugh, our planned vacation for the summer just fell through. :sad11:

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Katie - Are you TTC'ing soon?! Or are you still unsure when? I'll be hoping jumping on the TTC wagon in December or so!! Our pregnancies have overlapped before, maybe they will again! Biggrin

Virginia - Sorry about your vacation!! Sad That totally stinks! Can you do something else?

Mary - Those boys are so adorable! I'm so glad things are going better for you!!

Ashley - I said it over on FB, but super congrats on cute little Hudson! How adorable is he?!

AFM - We sold our house last week! Exciting, but SO stressful at the same time!! We had a house we loved, but the seller was unwilling to budge on his asking price. Kind of insane, especially in this market. Anyways, we've exhausted just about every other house on the market in our price range/specifications, and there is NOTHING. So we made one last ditch effort and offered him something else this morning, and he verbally agreed. We are putting it in writing tonight, so hopefully it will be signed tomorrow and it will be officially our new home!

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Good luck, Jen! I hope you get his signature tonight!

AFM: we might be able to do something else for vacation. Or we could do our planned vacation in August instead if I get the all clear on the previa. Ugh. I was looking forward to a week off soon.

ETA: Raymond just lose his first tooth! Wow. Good thing, because the two bottom adult teeth are already coming in behind and at Raymond's cleaning last week the dentist said he wanted to pull the baby teeth soon. Now we just have one more to get out.

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Virginia - Booo for the vacation falling through. That sucks. Sad I can't believe Raymond is old enough to be losing teeth and getting adult teeth already! Wow... I love the shirt idea. I might have to do that... Thankfully, my parents were with us, so they could help watch our kids. It's really hard to keep up with all three of them and we're still adjusting to being outnumbered.

Jen - Congrats on selling your house. I'm so freaking jealous. We can't pull ourselves together enough to even get ours on the market. We always have something going on that needs our attention more urgently. Ugh...

AFM - Calvin broke ANOTHER BONE. Sad I was out getting my hair cut, but DH said basically Calvin and Sean were fighting over a toy (the leap pad) and Sean pushed Calvin off a couch. He apparently has the WORST luck ever, because again, it was only maybe 1.5-2 feet onto carpeted floor, and he broke his clavicle. Uuuugggghhhhh.... I feel bad for him. He's not in too much pain if he doesn't try to move it, but then it's like he forgets it hurts and he'll go to point at something or to reach for something, and he'll SCREAM in pain. He let out a scream so horrible in the waiting area at the hospital that an employee came to make sure everything was okay. Yikes. At least the healing from this one should be better than the last one. No surgery, no cast, etc. He does have to wear a clavicle strap, but it's relatively small and not too cumbersome. The ends of the bone aren't displaced or anything, they're still close together, so the doc says it'll heal just fine without intervention beyond him wearing the strap thing...

I'm seeing the neurologist again tomorrow. I feel like death. Just putting that out there. Like at any minute, I'll either have a seizure or go paralyzed, or just keel over. I do not know what is wrong with me. My neck hurts SO freaking bad, and it's so stiff. The tingling is worse. I'm still having random muscle twitches and jerks. I hope the neurologist can help me figure this out. I was barely able to pull myself out of bed today. Actually, I got out of bed, then went back to bed and slept like 3 more hours. Thank goodness for my DH being a SAHD. If I were home alone on maternity leave while he went to work, I'd die. There is no way I could take care of all three of them by myself right now. Sad

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Mary - I really hope the doc can help you figure this out! It has to be something and since the major tests came back clear I'll hope it's something you can treat and deal with quickly! Poor Calvin! UGH! We've had that fight -- over the leap pad -- a million times. I've debated just buying another damn leap pad. Does that make me the laziest mom ever?

Virginia - sorry about vacation falling through! I would be totally bummed if ours did in July....I NEED vacation!

Jen - YAY on the house hope you get it all signed and you are in a new house in no time! December is a few months later I'm thinking Sept/Oct but we could over lap Smile

Amanda - I think I may look in to some other folks. THe down side is any of the more natural folks will be 30-50 minutes away....the hospital I've delivered the last 2 at is 5 minutes away. Just more convenient with dogs and kids and juggling the masses!

DHs dad is having a pace maker put in tomorrow....not sure exactly what that entails (will google...) but it's definitely stressing DH out. Hopefully it all goes well....

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Katie - I hope the surgery goes well.

Mary - I hope the neurologist can help you. And poor Calvin! I hope he heals quickly.

AFM: the vacation thing... we usually go in late August and I had tried to reschedule it for early July. I thought it was all set, but apparently it wasn't. But, we have some ideas and we'll do something fun that week. DH is due for a week off, anyway.

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Katie - I always consider buying a second one too, lol... But half the time, they don't even want it. They'd rather have the kindle or nook because they have angry birds and candy crush saga on them, haha. They only want what the other one has. I hope the pacemaker helps. When my grandpa got his, he said he immediately felt so much better, more energetic, etc.

Virginia - I'm sure you guys will enjoy a week off regardless, considering all the long hours your DH works. Smile

AFM - Just dealing with a kid with a broken bone, an almost 6 week old, and all my horrible symptoms. And the last couple days, I've had to go long periods of time without pumping, so my boobs are sore too. Fun.

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Mary - you make my life (placenta previa, staying home with 3 kids, maybe having to move, etc) sound easy. get some pumping in! That's an easy one to solve, anyway.

ETA: I just signed the forms. We decided to start Oliver at preschool in September because of the previa, his slow speech, and his temper, and just because. We started the others at 3, so it seems early, but I think it'll be good for him.

And it means starting Sept 4th I'll have no kids at home Wed, Thurs, and Fri mornings. And in October Raymond will start having some full days at kindergarten. eek. I'm really looking forward to time with just DH and the baby, hopefully in October, when the others are at school. It will be such a treat.

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Mary - oh no poor Calvin! I hope he heals quickly. I also hope the appt with the neurologist goes well. Have you discussed with possible epi complications with your dr? How can they even prove that?

Jen - congrats on selling your house! I hope the new one goes through.

Virginia - you can start preschool that early by you? They force us to wait for a certain birthday cutoff here, even if your kid is ready.

Katie - I hope your FIL feels better after his procedure.

AFM - I just had a really rough day, or afternoon really. I decided to take both kiddos to the pool by myself... Not a huge deal, usually anyway. Xander did great in the baby pool section, but kept wanting to go in the big pool. Only it was really cold and he was being a bit of a baby about it and wouldn't get it... So we went back to the baby pool, but he wanted in the big pool again and we went through the whole thing again. So I said if he didn't get in we were leaving - so we left. I feel really bad, actually. I had basically reached MY limited (just getting them dressed in suits, sunscreen, etc. leaves me done). So basically I was a crappy mom and made him leave when really he just didn't want to get in the cold water... But I already got in and got Benjamin used to the water, so I was just feeling so frustrated! He's actually always been like this and I've always been able to work with him to get him comfortable and in the water... But now I have a baby that I can't exactly just leave floating around, ya know? So I don't have enough hands! Or patience. heh. I just need him to be a "big boy" and do SOMETHING by himself! It's like this with everything - putting on his own clothes is the worst. He can do it and has plenty of times, but most days "it's too hard," "I can't," etc. He quits so easily and I don't really know how to handle it. I'm just too tired and mentally worn down right now and I'm having a hard time dealing. Aaaaahhhh! Okay, sorry to get all whiny. I just think I'm kind of a sucky mom to two kids - at least for now. I know once Benjamin gets a little mroe mobile and self sufficient that it'll get much easier. Right now he's a bit of a lump, though. heh. And Xander just hates doing stuff independently. Though I will say he's getting a ton better than he used to be, so he's improving. I think I'M the one that needs to be more patient.

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Virginia - That's very cool! I've debated if we had a 3rd getting a nanny vs daycare, the costs would be similar to 3 in daycare but both my boys seem to do really well with the interactions at daycare so I'd wind up doing the nanny and a private preschool (public pre school starts for Evan at 4 but Rory would have to be in private if he was

Lauren - Ugh - it's so hard with a baby. I'm not a huge baby person to begin with and moments like that are totally frazzling. I will say it is SOOOOO much easier now. Don't get me wrong they can run in opposite directions and create complete chaos but they can also both ACTUALLY walk. I can hold 2 hands and both boys can walk somewhere themselves. They can talk to me and each other and I'm just such a big fan of being able to communicate and move independently. Oh and FWIW we have a melt down probably every other morning b/c Evan can't get his arm through the arm hole himself and winds up screaming at his shirt. I could have given my boys a lot of great inherited traits, sadly for Evan it appears along with any good ones he also got my short tempered nature. Sorry bud.

Mary - Ugh! I hope you can figure out the symptoms -- I saw you were having another test on FB. I hope it shows you something concrete you can easily fix!

7:30 already man night fly! It's time for baths and bed for the boys....Evan napped at daycare today though and is totally wired LOL

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