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Hi, ladies.
It's getting kind of quiet here. How is everyone doing?
DH is back at work this week after a vacation week spent at home. Oliver has perked up nicely (I wonder how long he was brewing that ear infection?) and his croup seems completely gone. Whew. Looks like I'm (finally) set to O in the next few days. I'm feeling really on the fence about TTC. Maybe it's because the last few weeks have been crazy. Right now I feel like waiting a few years then seeing if we still want another.

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Virginia - glad he's feeling better! There's never any harm in waiting a bit I hope it all works out!

Mary - amazing on your parents Smile

Hi All! I had the stomach flu Saturday. I was so sick. Sunday Rory threw up twice but never really seemed worse for the wear and last night Evan threw up once and this morning again but he seems fine now and even ate something. WHY can't my kids get sick on my DAYS OFF? UGH. DH and I are playing musical kids he went in tthis morning and I'll go in this afternoon. BAH.

I have also officially accepted defeat in the battle of Rory and the crib. I started putting him to bed IN our bed and he's so much happier. In about 20 minutes I can get him to bed in our bed, I can then get up, go downstairs do wahtever we can make noise when we come to bed and he hardly stirs and he sleeps so much better. Not getting all worked up over the crib seems to make a huge difference. SO I give up. Clearly he needs to be with us so I'll stop making all of us miserable trying to get him to sleep in the crib. We may never have sex again though LOL

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Virginia - Are you feeling okay? Wink I've never heard you say "IF" you want more kids!! I'm sure it's just the chaos talking. I have those days too, and then when they're perfect angels, I want more right now.. Hahaha. Smile

Katie - Yeah, the BD thing is interesting with cosleeping, LOL. We pretty much have to wait until they're both asleep, then sneak off to the guest bed, haha.

AFM - So like 5 years ago, I went through some situational depression and I've always been high anxiety. It was pretty bad to the point that I was physically ill, so I did a 6-month course of an antidepressant that is also approved for anxiety. Well, ever since Sean's seizure last July, I've been very high-stress when it comes to the kids. Then add in current work stress and I've been a bit of a mess. Not nearly as terrible as it was 5 years ago, but I just remember taking the medication and feeling a world of difference. Like before it I always laid awake at night worrying about things, then suddenly, I didn't anymore. I didn't worry excessively, and it was WONDERFUL. So I decided maybe I should try it again since I do worry excessively. Well, I started it a week ago yesterday, and it's nothing like it was the first time. The first time, I really had NO side effects. This time, I am having every side effect imaginable. Like in the first few hours after taking it, I feel terrible... Like my heart is racing, I can't breathe, my muscles are tense and shaky. I've been having consistent neck/shoulder pain (I was reading that 3% of people have this side effect, haha.. of course I'm in the 3%). I feel like I'm in a fog, sometimes dizzy/disoriented, honestly don't feel safe to drive. And anyway, I wasn't wanting to be on it forever. After the 6-month treatment with it before, I was good for years... I didn't really plan for a long-term use, especially if we're planning to have more babies... i'm not taking it while pregnant. Sooooo... Yeah, a week in and I think I'm going to quit. I've been high-stress and had anxiety literally my whole life... I've gotten along fine (for the most part) without medication. I just hate it when I get to the point of worrying myself sick about things. But yeah, no thanks. I'll just cope with my stresses the best I can without meds, hahaha. My DH didn't really think I needed medication anyway, and if he can deal with my high-stress self, then I suppose I can too. Wink

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Not to get all psycho babble but have you considered some therapy Mary? I have a few friends with anxiety/depression struggles and they have experienced a lot of benefit from good therapy as well as medications. One friend is very against medications (though if I'm being honest I think it would benefit her greatly to try as does her therapist but hey that's not my place) so she copes with just therapy but her therapist has definitely helped her a great deal. Another friend has had life long anxiety and is a long term medication user -- she really needs it to be normal, I liken hers to insulin it most definitely fixes what her body doesn't do on its own. BUT she spent so much time being anxious that therapy along with the meds have helped her learn to cope. It did take her a while to find the right medication one that didn't have negative effects and then she had to change it up when she had kids. I think have a couple close friends with anxiety I'm a bit sensitive to it.....I've seen how big an impact meds and therapy have made in my one friend's life. Granted she's way beyond anything y ou describe she stopped coming to school in 10th grade! But anyway that's my thing - I think therapy can do wonders for people when it's a good therapist and a good setting.....impartial voice can help Smile That being said I have never gone to therapy LOL My family are a bunch of drunks but they are happy....LOL

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Katie - sorry about losing the crib battle. That sucks. Maybe he'll be ready in a few months. I caved with Oliver. I said he'd move out at 6 months but he ended up with us until 10 months.

Mary - sorry the medication isn't working. I have to echo what Katie said: could therapy help? I have to admit, I was a psych major, but I'm pretty anti-therapy in general (I played with lab rats, not people's minds). A lot of it is a waste of time. But, stuff like cognitive behavioral therapy can be really useful. There's a lot of anxiety in my family. I've coached my sister through a few anxiety attacks and my brother slept on my parents' floor off and on until he was 12 or so (sorry if that scares you, Katie, it's true). Turns out he had some anxiety issues, too. I'm gotten off pretty lightly. When mine hits (rarely) I mostly lie half-awake at night worrying myself sick (literally). My current treatment is my leftover zofran. I also have some claustrophobia, I hate driving through tunnels, and other stuff of that sort. (Oh, and a random fear-conditioning to a children's book... but only if it's read in German.) I've never had therapy, but I work on it myself. I try to catch myself early in my anxiety and tell myself to stop, that it won't help at all. It's taken work, but now sometimes I can stop it. :shrug: I'd look into some self-help coping mechanisms and maybe some therapy.

AFM: eh. Not really feeling okay, actually. I'm getting a nasty cold again. The last few weeks have been crazy. Oliver wasn't sleeping then he was pretty sick. DH was off work but I was still feeling overworked and exhausted all the time. Now he's back at work (gone 7am to 7pm+ daily) and I feel like I had no break. It's tough! But, when they behave well for a bit... yeah, I want more.

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Holy crap.

what do you think of that OPK? I'm seriously tempted to go for it. I wonder how many babies we'd get if we did... not that I have any reason to expect such a correlation.

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Did you go for it!? DOOOO ITTTT LOL I'm perfectly happy to encourage others Smile

this may sound silly but I have this HUGE sense of relief that I've just accepted that Rory will sleep with us. Bed time has been a struggle for 5 months. For a while it seemed to be improving a little but then it would back slide, then he'd get worked up and would be restless all night even with us. Putting him to bed in our bed seems to have eliminated all the stress. He goes to sleep, soundly, happily, easily, he sleeps MUCH more peacefully all night. I have an hour or two in the evening to relax and he's not flailing around all night because he got all worked up in his crib. I'm going to go ahead and hope he's not in our bed until he's 15 LOL but for now it's been the best week of sleep we've all had since December!

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I'm glad you're getting some sleep, Katie!

No, we haven't gone for it. It's up to DH whether we will or not.

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Mary - Could you look at herbal and natural methods (like supplements, exercise and meditation) for the anxiety? I'm big into natural remedies, not a fan of conventional medicine.

Virginia - You are crazy girl! First you are saying you are worn out from taking care of sick kids then you are talking of TTC. LOL! You do take care of those boys well though.

Katie - Glad to hear you've come to terms with keeping Rory in bed with you, I'm sure he'll sleep on his own at some point. Do you have a guest room where you and your DH could be intimate?

*AFM*

I need a vacation from my vacation, it is lots of fun but we've been keeping very busy. I did end up getting food poisoning on Tuesday night thankfully it cleared up pretty quick. Today I am taking things pretty easy, and getting bags packed since I head home tomorrow morning. I miss DH and DD1 alot can't wait to see them.

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"Muddee" wrote:

I need a vacation from my vacation

That's generally how I end up feeling, too. Once upon a time vacations were relaxing, but since we've had kids they haven't been much of a break. I'm glad the food poisoning passed quickly!

AFM: we wimped out. I want a warm weather baby and DH wants a spring baby. I'm mostly over the nasty cold, and as soon as I stopped feeling like I had been hit by a bus the hormones kicked in. Lol What I'd really like to do is get pregnant now and have the baby this time next year. But that's not really an option, huh?

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Virginia - Nice OPK! Too bad you didn't try, hahaha.

Amanda - Sorry about the food poisoning, blaaaah. Safe travels home!

Katie - It's good to hear you've found a better sleep solution. People think we're crazy for cosleeping, but hey, whatever gets me the most sleep... I'm all for it, hahaha. I'm hoping they'll be out of the room by the time they're teenagers too, lol... BUT... I will say, I slept on the floor of my parents' room many, many nights until I was probably 12 also, just like Virginia said. And you know, I NEVER equated it to the anxiety until she said that, but now that I think of it, I guarantee that's why. I was terrified to sleep alone and would lay awake scared if I was by myself. Wow...

AFM - I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I started cutting the pills in half, just to wean off of them. Having taken them for a week, it was sorta iffy as to whether or not I could just stop them cold turkey without any adverse effects. I've taken 1/2 tablet for the last 3 days, and I actually feel pretty good. I haven't decided what I'm going to do yet. I might just keep taking 1/2 tablet for a bit and see if that helps. I hadn't really considered therapy (like virginia mentioned, I try to do the cognitive behavior modification on my own, but i still worry myself sick about certain things from time to time)... I was hoping I'd have the same success with the medication this time that I had previously. It's insane to me that I could take it before with no side effects AT ALL, then have every side effect imaginable now. So weird. We'll see what happens.

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Mary - So weird that you did that, too. I hope the half pills work for you. :bighug: feel better.
yeah, I'm kind of bummed we didn't go for it. Now I'll keep wondering what would have happened. Lol BUT, I don't actually want twins, and it would have been "timed" for a boy, and I don't want DH stuck inside with the 3 older boys during his pat leave! I want him able to take them out so baby and I can snuggle and sleep. Biggrin So, I'm hoping for May 2013.

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Amanda - glad vacation has been good! Sounds very busy but fun!

Mary - GL figuring it all out. And I agree sleep is good I just can't function with no sleep.

Virginia - a May baby sounds wonderful. If we have a 3rd I'm NOT doing the winter baby thing again!

not much excitement here....the weather was nice today and I'm itching for our playset to be delivered! http://www.rainbowplay.com/index.php/swingsets/package/18b-original-rainbow-castle-package-iii-loaded/ that's the set.....I think I'm as excited as Evan LOL

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Wow, Katie! I want one, too! Those boys are going to have fun.

Lauren - how are you doing? I miss you!

AFM: Oed yesterday. Glad that's done. It's funny, I wanted Alex to be a May baby but was BFing and couldn't get pregnant until later. I wanted Oliver to be a May baby, but just missed it. Maybe the third try will work. Lol

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Phew, all caught up! My sister was here for a few days, so I fell behind. Sorry!

Virginia, wow that was a nice OPK! But yeah, not great timing. It's funny how hormones can make our normally logical brains play tricks on us around O time! You have a plan in place of when to TTC, but then you're about to O and BAM you want to now! haha.

Katie, glad you guys came to a good sleep solution. Hopefully Rory will just naturally be ready to move out of your bed soon.

Mary, have you thought about trying some other brands? Or if the half pill is working, maybe talk to your doctor about a lower dose? I'm sorry about your anxiety, kids definitely amp it up!

Amanda, I always feel that way during a vacation, too! Vacations with kids are hard!!

AFM, not too much going on. Still pregnant as far as I know. haha. Some days I have a lot of symptoms and other days I have zero symptoms and almost forget I'm pregnant. I think I had more nausea when I was 4 weeks than I do now at 6 weeks, which is funny because "they" always say nausea doesn't normally start til 6 or so weeks. Hopefully I'll be lucky again like I was with Xander and never get m/s. That'd be swell! I hate throwing up! I'm bloated and my pants are getting snug, though I haven't gained any weight. I think it won't be long until I have to break out the Bella Band! haha.

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Lauren - Good luck on not getting m/s! I didn't have it with Calvin, but I was horribly nauseated until 15-16 weeks with Sean. It was terrible, but of course when I was pregnant with Calvin, I was begging for m/s because his pregnancy was so weird with all the bleeding and whatnot. I never did get nausea though, which is good because I HATE that feeling. Blech...

AFM - Starting my long 9-day week at work, then 5 days off for the weekend of my SIL's wedding. It's going to be exhausting. The rehearsal is late next Friday evening, then we'll have to drive 2 hours home. Then I have to be at the hair salon at 8:30 Saturday morning, get my hair done, then make the 2 hour drive back for the wedding. Then of course 2 more hours driving home that night. I'm looking forward to it, but at the same time, I dread the exhaustion that is sure to come. And dealing with the two kids through a wedding when I'm wearing a long dress and heels will NOT be fun. It should be interesting.

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Lauren - glad you're feeling ok! I didn't have much sickness with either kid. I threw up a couple times with Rory but it was very fleeting, ate, it all came back up and i was fine again in a matter of minutes. Bizarre.

Mary - Oh man we did Evan at a wedding once and I swore I'd never do it again. For my sister's wedding next Sept I've already decided the boys will do the ceremony, pictures, and maybe a bit of the reception then they are going to a sitter. We'll probably have one of DH's nieces come and stay at the hotel and take the boys. Running after kids at a wedding was too much for me. Of course it wasn't a family wedding so it wasn't like anyone else really wanted to juggle Evan, it might be better with family around to help.

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Mary - I was in my sisters wedding when the boys Alex was 13.5m. It wasn't too bad. During the ceremony they were DH's job (since I was a bridesmaid) and they were okay during the reception (late morning wedding). I brought flip flops to change into because I'm hopeless in heels and we ducked out a bit early (I was also 8w pregnant, exhausted, and nauseous). Good luck. I hope the boys behave.

Katie - just occurred to me - have you tried a co-sleeper? Or does Rory have to be snuggled up to you?

Lauren - I hope you miss the m/s. Mine has been brutal with all the kids. Next time, I'm calling and asking for Zofran as soon as I get my BFP. I don't know how I survived the first two pregnancies without it. (I had it with Oliver, but not right away)

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Mary, sounds like a tiring week ahead!!! Since this is a family wedding I think you should ask for help from other family members, especially since you're IN the wedding! I'm sure there are lots of aunts or cousins that'd be happy to help keep the kiddos entertained. We brought Xander to SIL's wedding and he did fine for the ceremony (though we had to keep him in the back so we could stand) and then he stayed for an hour or so of the reception before my parents took him home.

Speaking of nausea, I guess I spoke too soon because I am a bit nauseous this morning... I don't think I'm at a point where I'd puke or anything, just not feeling so hot. Though the longer I'm up, the better I feel. I could use an extra hour (or two, or three... four?) in bed, though! SLEEPY! I'd say yay for coffee, but decaf doesn't really help. hahaha

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Lauren - Boo (and woohoo at the same time, haha) for nausea! I hope you feel better. That's the one thing I do NOT miss about pregnancy. Blech...

Virginia - I wish I'd had zofran for Sean's pregnancy. I was miserable for MONTHS. Ugh. But I was still in Illinois for the first half of my pregnancy with him, and the doctor I had there was all anti-nausea meds. He eventually (after much begging) gave me phenergan, which to me is stupid. Phenergan is category C, zofran is category B. And zofran doesn't cause that loopy/drowsy feeling like phenergan. So I took half of a phenergan when I was desperate and nearly unable to get through my work day. Thankfully, my current OB is all about zofran, but then I didn't even need it with Calvin.

Katie - I imagine this wedding will go much the same way.. At least there will be family there to hopefully entertain them.

AFM - So I totally forgot to mention that Sean is going to be a ring bearer in the wedding! This kid is SO bull-headed. He doesn't want to do ANYTHING unless he thinks it's his idea. So how I'm going to get him to obediently walk down an aisle is beyond me. I'm a little scared, hahah. I did also forget that my parents are going to the wedding, so they'll gladly entertain the little ones.

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Honestly, knowing what my pregnancies are like... if I cant get zofran I'm switching doctors. I had it from a previous doctor with Oliver (we moved when I was 10w) so I don't know if the one I see if the area would prescribe it. I hope so. But I'm not going to practically starve myself and endure (mildish) hyperemesis again. That sucks.

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Lauren - I hope the nausea can keep to a minimum for you. My first pregnancy I had 9 months of morning sickness, my second I still had it but far less extreme, and it was controlable.

Mary - Good luck with Sean being the ring bearer for the wedding. Natalie is being a flower girl this summer for my BFF's wedding, I really hope she can behave, she's had a real temper lately. Glad your parents are going to be at the wedding to entertain the kids.

*AFM*

I'm needing to get moving on planning a bridal shower for my BFF (I'm the Matron of Honor), I don't even know where to begin. It's so difficult since my BFF works all sorts of odd hours. I guess I'll have to contect her and get information on who to invite and when she might think it's best for her.

At work today and it's pretty quiet. I'm probably going to start the next flier that goes out for the beginning of June.

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Amanda - Good luck planning the bridal shower. We got off lucky for SIL, because MIL wanted to do the planning for that. So it was easy on me and the other bridesmaids, haha.

Here's an interesting story. A girl from my BB with Calvin had problems with her delivery. Basically her baby did not take a breath for at least 15 minutes after birth (I think maybe even longer, I can't remember). The staff was negligent in providing life-saving care... Things that should have happened within the first minute did not happen until 15 minutes or more later. He basically was expected to die, but he made it. However, he suffers from cerebral palsy as a result of his birth (he was perfectly normal otherwise... just the oxygen deprivation caused brain damage). Anyway.... His mom is AMAZING. She is fighting on, working with him constantly. She strongly believes in the ability of the brain to grow new pathways, especially in young babies. She has managed to get this baby to do things he likely would never have been able to do. She has a recent picture of him standing up holding on to the bath tub, bearing the weight and balancing himself on his own legs. Really, just amazing. And anyway... It just so happened that she had decided to save his cord blood. And they went earlier this week (I believe to Duke University) for him to receive his stem cells. It is an experimental procedure, but there have been some amazing successes with it. She had posted in a facebook group a video of a baby in a very similar situation who got his stem cell treatment and the parents said it was like night and day difference. They showed the baby afterwards, and he was meeting milestones like normal. So anyway, we're all very hopeful for them.

She has a blog, but doesn't update it a lot, but you can get the back story here if interested:
http://zackrabbit11.livejournal.com/

I just think it's an amazing story and this mama is so strong and inspirational.

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Mary - What an extraordinary mother that lady is, I hope her baby Zack gets to live a full and happy life, sounds like she's really doing everything she can.

*AFM*

Natalie has been really trying today, she cut a small chunk from her hair and happily exclaimed "It doesn't hurt to snip hair with scissors", she coloured all over her dress with marker (it's washable no biggie) and worst of all (cause of Disney's stupid vault) I was on the phone with fence people and Natalie was growing impatient waiting for Dana (who was cleaning her bathroom) to put on Tangled she decided to take it out of the case and play with it leaving it so scratched that it won't play properly.

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Mary - I could barely read that blog. It gave me cold shivers and a feeling of "There but for the grace of God go I" (or, at least, "there but for access to a wonderful doctor") I really hope her little boy continues to improve and I am so, so grateful that the doctor was on her toes with Raymond. Cord compression during delivery is a scary thing.

ETA: for a happier note, here are a few pictures from today. Here's what you can do after it rains for 2 weeks straight!



followed, of course, by the bath documented in my siggy. Smile
(No, that puddle is not on our street, thankfully!)

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Virginia, love the pics! Xander would be in heaven with a puddle that big! hahaha. I still can't get over how alike they all look, especially in the bath picture. When did Alex get so big?

Amanda, sorry about the dvd. Yeah, I'm not a fan of Disney's vault either... I'm sure it drives their sales waaaay up, though, since people are probably more likely to buy when they know they only have a limited time.

AFM, well I officially know what real pregnancy-related nausea feels like. I spent all of last night lying perfectly still on my couch because I was on the verge of throwing up. It was awful! If I would've shifted at all I think I would've puked. I probably would've felt better if I just did, but I really hate throwing up so I did everything in my power not to. Ugh. What an awful feeling! I'm still nauseous this morning, but nothing like last night. Probably because I haven't eaten yet today.... I'm kind of afraid to, actually. I didn't have any nausea like this with Xander, so this is all new. Here's hoping last night was a fluke and I'll feel just glorious through the rest of my pregnancy! lol.

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Lauren - Sorry about the nasty nausea. I hate it too. Blech!! At least it's a good sign of a sticky bean. Smile

Virginia - Cute pics!! Looks like they had fun. I was laughing at the thought of having all three in the bathtub at once. It is chaotic enough when I put my two in the tub together, hahah. Can't imagine three.

Amanda - Sounds like Natalie is being a naughty little booger, hahahha. Gotta love the things they come up with.

AFM - The girl from my board posted that the stem cell thing went great. She said they actually had enough stem cells in his cord blood to give him three full treatments, so if they feel that this one benefits him, they can go back two more times for more. Awesome! I can't wait to see how he does.

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Mary: that's a great story, I hope it the stem cell therapy works out for them!
Lauren: ugh "morning" sickness is the worst. I could barely function with my first pregnancy for about 2 months. With my second, I only got it really bad a couple of days and the rest of the time it was totally tolerable so I'll cross my fingers it turns out that way for you!
Virginia: such cute pics!!
Amanda: sounds like a rough day...hope she flips it around and is an ANGEL for a few days to even it out Wink

Nothing too new going on with us. Dane is getting really close to walking and just started standing for short bursts of time without assistance. He can cruise with a push toy, so I know my days are numbered. Brekke keeps saying he'll walk when he's big like her, so I think it'll be a shock to her when he starts and is still a baby! My dumb dog caught one of his nails on our carpet last night and ripped up pretty good so I got to spend my morning at the vet - luckily it was the first vet visit in a long time where I walked out with a much smaller bill than I'd anticipated.

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Virginia - those pictures are totally priceless! Love them!

Lauren - Hope you're feeling better!

Amanda - Hope Natalie got past her little spurt of the devil Smile

Mary - wow that is a strong mom, I really hope the treatment helps. A family local to me who had a baby right around Rory is heading to MN for an experimental treatment their son has some very rare disorder where his skin blisters off of him - like when your sneakers rub and give you a blister except shirts and blankets do it to him. The webpage on him just makes me want to cry b/c it talks about the chronic pain he is in. He has to have a feeding tube b/c his mouth blisters. http://savejaxnow.com/ Hopefully the bone marrow transplant works. I can't imagine having a baby in chronic pain.

Happy Mother's Day! DH asked me what I want. Sigh. I told him surprise me. he said "you hate surprises" no...I hate cut flowers that die in 2 days, surprises that aren't destine to die are lovely. LOL He means well. My sister is home for the weekend so we're headed there to see her Smile YAY

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Katie - I swear we have the same DH, LOL... We had the same exact conversation!

Happy Mother's Day, ladies!! :party:

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My DH stopped giving flowers to me ages ago for that reason, he is hit and miss on Mother's Day some years he gets a gift others he doesn't. Really don't mind that he didn't get me anything this year since I want to save money cause we are building a fence and need to do other things around the house.

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Katie - Just got around to reading some of the blog you posted about the little boy with the skin disorder. Wow... That is SO sad. I hope his bone marrow transplant helps him.

ETA: AFM - I've been thinking about my m/c here and there over the last several days, probably because we're coming up on the 2-year anniversary of it. In some ways, I can't believe it has been 2 years already, and in other ways, it feels like an eternity ago. Just thinking about it kills any hint of baby fever, which I guess is a good thing for us right now since we're wanting to move in the next year. It also makes me think about my pregnancy with Calvin, because the two were so similar with all the bleeding, but thank goodness Calvin was a sticky little bean. Smile

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Mary - :bighug:

Lauren - sorry the m/s hit. That's what mine is like (without meds) every single day for 2-3 months. Seriously, ask your doctor for some zofran. It works wonders. And eating is supposed to help, but I couldn't make myself do it. One doctor recommended drinking the syrup from peaches canned in light syrup. Ginger can help a little, too. There are some hard candies called GinGins which helped me a bit. The preggie pops or preggie pop drops are okay, too. I couldn't use them when my nausea was bad, but one it backed off a little they were decent. They made my tongue numb, though, because they were so sour. You can also try 1/2 unisom (doxylamine) at bedtime (it's a antihistamine sleep aid) with some B6. I used that with my first two pregnancies and it changed my m/s from hyperemesis to just constant terrible nausea. It seems to me it decreases the gag reflex. It knocks you out when you take it and left me extra exhausted all day, though. Good luck. It seriously sucks.

Wow. been busy.
Mother's Day brought me... nothing. We'll DH's parents got me flowers. DH has never really done anything for Mother's Day and only twice has it bothered me: the first year (obviously) and this year. I feel like I've been working my butt off with the kids and he really wants another closely spaced... I feel like I deserve a surprise. But, he clearly felt bad about not doing anything. And I got to spend the day with my mom. Smile
I seem to have developed some wrist injury, probably from lifting the boys. Ouch. I hope it starts to improve on its own soon.
I got a little nervous this morning when my temp went up at 11 dpo, but I got a BFN. Still makes me happy. I have a few things I want to get done this summer before getting pregnant!

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Mary, big (((hugs))) Sorry you're having a rough couple of days...

Virginia, sorry your DH didn't do anything for you. At the very least he should get Raymond and maybe Alex doing something for you since they're old enough. It's not like you're asking for some big THING, just some recognition. A homemade card from the kids would've been enough. My DH completely blew off Mother's Day last year and I let him know how hurtful it was. He told me "I don't look at you as a mom" and he nearly got punched. I guess because I'm not HIS mom. Whatever. lol. I even told him he doesn't have to spend a dime, just have Xander made me a card and don't 'make me do dishes and stuff like that.

As for the nausea, well the other day was kind of its own thing. I've had a little mild nausea a few times since, but nothing like that night! I am hoping it was a one time thing, or at least something that only happens occasionally.......... *fingers crossed*

I had a nice Mother's Day. As I said earlier, my DH learned his lesson last year. This year he had Xander make me a card, they picked me out some wind chimes and we went to lunch. Also, he told me not to do dishes...... Sounds nice, eh? Well then he didn't do them! So the next day I had this ginormous pile of dishes to tackle! lol. Like it's all fine and good to tell me not to do them, but don't just let them pile up for the next day. hahaha. But he was handling Xander a lot and they were outside half the day, so I'm sure he just forgot... He even said "how the heck do you get anything done around here with this guy running around!!" Yeah, how do I? I must be that awesome! Wink

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"freesiangel" wrote:

Also, he told me not to do dishes...... Sounds nice, eh? Well then he didn't do them! So the next day I had this ginormous pile of dishes to tackle!

The same, exact thing happened to me. :doh:
I'm glad your nausea has been better!

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Well I'm glad my DH isn't the only one who has made an a$$ of himself on Mother's Day, lol. This year was fine (nothing too exciting, but he did make an effort and we went out to a nice dinner), but in previous years, I have wanted to punch him. In 2009 when I was 7 months pregnant with Sean, he didn't do a thing for me. My pelvis felt like it was breaking apart at the seams and he had the nerve to say to me, "You're not a mother yet." WTF. And he also once told me, "You're not my mom." WTF?!?! Until the kids are old enough to handle Mother's/Father's Day on their own, it's a given that the other parent is in charge of helping them get it right. Stupid men. I still want to punch DH in the face every time I think about that, "You're not a mother yet" comment.

ETA: My mom called me last night to ask if I would mind having some people over tomorrow for a bit of a "family reunion" of sorts. She has a half sister and half brother that we rarely ever see anymore. They had the same dad as my mom, but they have a different mom. Anyway, my mom's dad died when I was like 8, and we just haven't seen them a lot since then... (I should add that these half-siblings of my mom are like my age... the brother is 6 months older than me, the sister is 4 years older than me). And anyway, the sister lives in Arizona now... We keep in touch to some degree via facebook and my mom sees them occasionally... Well, she's coming to Ohio and wants to visit us all tomorrow... So I guess they'll be coming to my house. Her half-brother has two little girls that are about the same age as my kids. The oldest is just a couple weeks younger than Sean and the younger one is a month or two (?) younger than Calvin. Anyway, it should be interesting to see them. I seriously haven't seen them in probably 15 years. Wow...

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good luck with the guests, Mary!

So, a week after the MMR vaccine and Oliver has a fever and a mild rash. poor guy. Thankfully, he's still cheerful. (Pretty normal side effects) And... I'm 13dpo and my temp is still up. :WTF: this is the longest LP I've had since before Raymond was born! And I've been BFing 3-5 times a day still. I'm still not late yet, but it feels like I am. I may pick up a HPT today. I'm pretty sure it's just my body getting back to normal, though.

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Virginia - OooOo GL! I'll stalk Smile

Mary - have fun with the company

Lauren - Sorry DH didn't even do the dishes! I'm so spoiled DH almost always does them here. Food and dishes are his domain (along with mowing and snow blowing), laundry, vacuuming, bathroom cleaning and mopping/dusting/organizing are mine. He will sometimes do laundry but has some deep rooted inability to PUT IT AWAY so even when he does it I have to put it away. LOL

Hi Amanda and everyone else Smile

Evan has a runny nose so of course Rory has a cough. ARGH. Everyone seems happy enough though and it seems mild so hopefully it just goes away. Rory is getting so big - he can push his whole upper body up and is starting to experiment with how to get his legs under him. I'm not ready for 2 mobile kids Smile I think I have a month or so before he can actually move more than pivot around though Smile

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Virginia - Good luck! I thought you said you guys chickened out this cycle?????

Katie - I hope you have two healthy kids sometime soon! Hopefully this bug is no big deal. We've gone through those phases of seemingly endless illness and it's SO frustrating. As for two mobile babies... OMG. It's unreal, hahaha. I don't know how Virginia does it with three. Last night I was upstairs hanging some clothes and Sean was upstairs with me (another story in itself... We now have several hangers with socks, underwear, etc hanging from them because Sean was trying to "help"). But after a while, I heard something, and lo and behold, Calvin had climbed the stairs and came up to see me. In fact, he was teaching himself to go DOWN the stairs yesterday too... Crazy.

AFM - A girl that I worked with in IL had a baby a month or so ago... And she just posted about her special formula that they tried for the first time last night, and the baby slept four hours, so they were loving it (she had been waking to eat every 1.5 hours). Anyway... 30 bucks for a small can!! :eek: It makes me SOOOO freaking happy that I went through all the pumping. I was doing it for the health benefits of breast milk, but holy cow, the money savings makes it totally worth it.

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I'm with you Mary - I'm cheap and the fact we haven't dropped a dime to feed Rory makes me happy LOL

Of course I'm extra spoiled b/c BF'ing has come easily with both kids. I'm going away over night in June and DH is going to be screwed. He's going to have to get up and get a bottle. And Rory is going to be FURIOUS. DH thinks the hardest part of when he's home alone with Rory is the fact he's used to instant gratification. Make a sound get a boob. Milk is ready when he is. By the time DH gets the bottle warmed etc Rory is in a full out fit. Rory eats 2-3 times a night still that should be super fun for DH lol

This cold really seems rather minor. I have no doubt Evan will shake it in a day or two. I worry about Rory b/c it seems like everything goes straight to his chest Sad

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I don't know how I do it with three either. I am so exhausted right now. Alex didn't nap today and Oliver barely napped. it was insane.

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Katie - I hope Rory shakes it quickly too. It sucks to have sick kiddos, boooo.

AFM - Just had my visit with my relatives that I haven't seen in years and it was really good. We spent most of the time out in my back yard with the kids playing on the swing set (well, mostly going down the slide over and over and over). I couldn't remember exactly how far spaced the kids were, but Sean and their oldest (Emma) are only 7 days apart, and then their youngest (Zoey) is 9 months, so 5ish months younger than Calvin. Sean and Emma actually played really well together for the most part. There were little moments where they each didn't want to share or something, but for the most part, they did really well. It was cute, he gave her a hug and kiss before they left. Calvin was sweet too... He kept climbing on the bottom of the slide and he would slide just a little because he was at the very bottom, and he would say "Weee!" Hahaha.. And then when they were leaving, he was waving and saying, "Bye bye!" It was adorable... I've never heard him use bye bye in context like that before. So anyway, it was a good visit. Smile

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Virginia, sorry Oliver isn't feeling great after his vaccine. And sorry the kiddos didn't sleep too well!

Katie, sorry about the sick kiddos again. Yes, chest colds are the worst for little guys!!

Mary, Glad you had a fun family visit! Man that is craaaaaaaaaaazy about her special formula! Even the regular stuff is crazy expensive. There was a month where we had to supplement a little bit with formula when Xander was around 4/5 months old and we bought two cans. Two. That's all we ever had to buy and I think it was $40-50 w/ a coupon I had! I was so thankful I didn't have to buy that all the time. We didn't had the money for it! Well, we would've had to cut down on what we put in savings...

Speaking of all that crap. I am so glad I am confident in my ability to breastfeed now. It was such a struggle for the first 4/5 months with Xander. All the kid ever wanted to do was sleep and we could never get a good latch. He was so tiny for so long! Finally something clicked... I never went to a lactation consultant and I really should have. I was so overwhelmed and I know I wasn't doing it right for awhile. I'd look at web sites and books and it was like all the information was in a different language. They'd explain different latches, even have pictures, and it still didn't make sense! We just never got a good latch going. Then one day some veil was lifted and everything made sense and we managed to go for 14 months. Now that I seem to "get it," I am praying I won't have to deal with any of those struggles this time around. I hope I can pop this kid out and we'll be perfect from the get-go! At least this time I wouldn't hesitate to go to a LC if needed to. I don't know why I wouldn't before. I think post-baby hormones just had me in a wreck and I didn't want to go anywhere. Dumb, I know.

Anyhoo... So we bought Xander a water table yesterday. It's crazy hot out! He seems to like it, but our backyard is full sun with no shade, so we can't stay out there too long. I think I need to take the umbrella off the table and move it around the yard. It's going to be another HOT and sunny day today, so I need to figure something out!

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Mary - I feel like Cal is just a baby so when you say he's talking it blows my mind! I know he's 1 now but still! I feel the same way about Virginia's Oliver!

Lauren - Our yard is all sun too. We actually got a tent thing to put up to give some shade this year. I don't think I would have seen a LC if I had struggled with Evan BF'ing. But after BF'ing Evan I would have with Rory. I was lucky though both my boys arrived fat, screaming, hungry and ready to latch LOL I've never even had a cracked nipple. Engorgement and clogged ducts yes though!

Funny BF'ing thing -- I actually BF in front of my mother. I realize that sounds absurd to most but my mom has taken a LONG time to adjusting to bf'ing. She's a weirdo. But I did and neither of us died. Now Sunday I'll be with DH's family let's see how THAT goes. They might all pass out if I whip it out at the picnic.....(I really am discrete but they are even worse than my mom). but Rory will need to eat so it may have to happen.

Rory woke a few times last night and I was worried maybe he had an ear infection starting but he's been chipper today so maybe he was jsut struggling to breath well on his back

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Lauren - Dana had an awful latch I gave up after 3 months (I was just under 20 and had no patience), Natalie latched perfect from the first time 15 minutes after birth to 1 week later when I had to quit so I could go on medication.

Just posting to mark my spot and say Hi! :wavehello:

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I'll try to post more when I take lunch, but I just wanted to brag about my own personal achievement, I completed week 2 of a Couch to 5K yesterday. Biggrin

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Katie - I'm so glad your mom handled you BFing okay! GL at the picnic.

Lauren - yay for confidence! I hope it's easier this time.

Amanda - good for you!

Mary - glad the visit went well.

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Lauren - The way you described your first BFing experience reminded me a lot of how I felt (with not wanting to go to a LC, or anywhere for that matter). I think it's such a weird transition to have your first baby, especially as I was never really around babies growing up, so it was totally foreign to me. I felt like I never really knew what he wanted when he cried. The second time around, I feel like a seasoned pro. Calvin has been a 100% easier baby than Sean, but part of me wonders if he was really easier or if I was just better at it. That's getting a little OT, but that's what your BFing story reminded me of, haha.

Katie - Woohoo for BFing in front of your mom. I was never comfortable doing it in front of others. I think I could have adjusted if we'd ever gotten good at it, but I was never confident in my own abilities, so I was certainly never comfortable doing it with other people around.

AFM - SIL's wedding was yesterday! So now my kiddos *officially* have an uncle, haha. We always called him "Uncle Jason" anyway, but now it is official, haha. In fact, my first memory of BIL (yes, I have a BIL now, yay! haha)... We had never met him yet, he was just newly dating SIL when Sean was born. We got a cute flower arrangement delivered to my hospital room, but DH and I did not recognize the name on the card. I have distant relatives with his last name (not the most common name), so I thought maybe it was one of them, but I was not aware of one with his first name. So we had no clue who it was from, really, until SIL told us it was from her boyfriend, haha. The awesome thing about it is that Sean was actually born on BIL's birthday. So it was all double cool... They shared a birthday and he sent us flowers without having ever met us. So we loved him from day 1. Wedding and reception were really nice. I got to ride in a limo with the rest of the bridal party and have some drinks while DH dealt with the kids, which was fun... I'd never been in a limo before. We're tired today though... Friday night was the rehearsal and we didn't get home till 11:30. Then my hair appointment yesterday was at 8:30am, then we didn't get home from the wedding until almost 1am last night (or this morning rather)... So it was a long couple of days and we're taking today as a R&R day.

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Mary, SOOOOOO how did Sean do? Did he make it down the aisle okay?? Glad you got to have some adult time without the kiddos for a bit, too!

Amanda, WTG!

AFM, camping (camper camping) was a huge bust this weekend. We came home after a few hours. Xander was a complete wreck. He cried or whined for the entire drive, even though I had tons of activities and snacks, etc. He has always hated long car trips, but this was the worst drive we've ever had. Then he wouldn't poop or pee in the camper bathroom, it must've freaked him out. So he got really upset and peed all over me and my only pair of shorts! It did NOT anticipate that! I kept having awful cramps (it was 93 and we were outside) and I seriously had myself convinced that I was having a m/c - the cramps were THAT bad! And yes, I ws drinking a ton of water... Just too much exertion in the heat. So we gave up and came home. The drive home was the worst part. He just cried and cried and cried. I even had to get in the back seat with him. We got home and he took the worlds biggest poop - so we're guessing that was the problem. He'd been holding it all day and was probably in pain. *sigh*

We're going to be gone for an entire week next week, many of the days in hotels! TONS of driving! OMG I am not looking forward to our "vacation," it's going to be awful! Hopefully since we're in a hotel he'll be okay with bathroom stuff, but we'll see. We also decided we will bring the iPad along for the car drive. We never wanted to "silence" our child with a gadget in the car, but I think we're at the point where we have to. I figure I'll keep it put away and play with him for the first hour or so (he's usually okay for that long in the car) and once he starts to lose it I'll take out the iPad. I just pray that works! Otherwise we're going to have a lot of awful awful driving ahead of us!

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Just in catching up with you all. It is amazing how quick some of your kids are growing up! Hope everyone is doing well!

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Mary - Glad the wedding was good! That's busy though! Phew!

Lauren - oh jeez! That is no fun at all. Like all things I was spoiled by Evan who is a wonderful traveler. Rory ugh not at all. I'm all for gadgets to silence kids especially in a car I mean what else are they supposed to do? It's not like they can be engaged in "better" activity so I say bring the iPad. I'd even download some TV shows lol Evan hung out in the hospital room after I had Rory watching Mickey Mouse on the iPad, it kept him from terrorizing the hospital room (WAY too much stuff for a toddler to get in to that he can't!) and kept him busy. I'm not above a little gadget distraction myself Wink I just wish I could silence Rory with a toy or some TV on the iPad. Unfortunately he just screams like he's being pinched.

We took today off and sent the boys to daycare so we could do the gardening and general house cleaning. It's just too hard to do stuff like yard work with the kids. It's been nice. My street is a little hot bed of activity LOL One neighbor had a landscaper come, the other is having a pool installed and in a week we have our playset installed. We never have any activity on our little cul de sac and right now we have trucks all over!

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