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September Chat Thread!

Oops, I've been posting in August today. Happy September! I love this month... We celebrate our 4th wedding anniversary this month, and I generally love the weather in September. Smile

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Oh I missed it too! And the 15th is our 5th wedding anniversary Smile YAY for Sept!

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And Lily turns 2 on the 3rd :shock: how on earth did that happen so fast!?!?!?

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Lots of good things coming up this month. Smile

I was googling FRER progressions because I am certifiably insane, and I found one of Virginia's pictures that she had posted here on the boards, haha. Thought that was kinda funny. I used my final HPT today, and I'm so happy and relieved to have them out of the house because they make me crazy. Being that it's my last pregnancy, I really just want to enjoy it and not be overcome with worry. Maybe I'll post a picture of my final progression today. I think I'm probably 12dpo.

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I posted some responses in the August thread... Can't believe fall is here already where did the summer go?

Natalie's school goes back to their regular program next week, she has the same teacher as last year which is great she's a wonderful lady and Natalie learns a lot from her.

Dana is hyped to go back to school, she can't wait to see who her teacher is and see her friends and if they are in her class. It's crazy that she is in her last year in elementary school (grades 1-8 here) and will move on to high school next year.

It's the labour day long weekend here, yesterday DH and I groomed Sadie and we did groceries. Today we are going to run a few errands and pick up Dana's hockey equipment then go to Canada's Wonderland for the afternoon/night since they have a fire works show.

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Amanda - How is it possible that Dana is going to be in HS next year?!?!!? Time goes by way too quickly, oh my goodness.

AFM - Here's my FRER progression over the past 4 days. They were all FMU's except the first (faintest) one was 3:30pm. I didn't have a FMU from that day (or maybe I did and threw it away because it was nearly invisible.

I am so, so, soooooo glad that I don't have anymore HPT's left. I'll just leave it at that. The lines appear to be getting darker, and if they're not, it's out of my control anyway.

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Ugh... Feeling sad for a friend today. She recently lost her baby girl, 4 months into pregnancy. She's the photographer who did our wedding. She said she had a meeting scheduled last week with a bride to deliver her wedding photos, and she called and cancelled with the lady because her unborn baby died, and offered to mail them to her instead. The bride got PO'ed and quoted the part in the contract to the effect that she'd be LATE in delivering her pictures. I couldn't believe it. I had a coworker attack me in a similar way when I was going through my m/c. Unbelievable how cold-hearted and self-centered people can be... Grrrrrr.......

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Oh my goodness, Mary, congrats! Sending lsot of sticky vibes. I'm a bit jealous, but I guess that's the be expected. At least we'll be TTC again soon. I would say I can't wait to get another BFP, but I'm still getting them daily. :doh:

Erica - go for it! 4 months between in fine. Join the TTC club!

I read everything, but... super busy unpacking from vacation, getting the boys ready to start school, trying to clean the house, etc.

AFM: Our vacation was awesome. We took the older boys on a long canoe trip (5+ miles), but they didn't have to do any work. We also took them up a small mountain. 3 miles round-trip with a 700ft elevation change. And they both made it! They got to play in the water every day (Oliver didn't like it much), got some kayaking with us, roasted marshmallows, and Raymond and I slept out in a tent one night.
really as AFM, bleeding has finally almost stopped. I've been testing out my HCG and I'm still getting positives, but they're down to looking like maybe 14dpo, so progress is being made. I get to go in and have it tested again this week. But, I'm already getting sore ovaries and we definitely haven't been preventing,so who know what will happen. I've gotten a little more bummed about the whole situation. It's weird thinking I "should" be 12 weeks.

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Congrats Mary

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Thanks Karen. Smile

Virginia - Your vacation sounds great! Sorry the HCG is still on-going, blaaah. Has your DH had much to say about the whole m/c experience?

AFM - Just the usual post-BFP freak-out here. I wish I had a switch to just turn off my worries and concerns. This is most likely my last pregnancy and I really just want to enjoy it. It's so hard to block out the trauma of the m/c and the bleeding during Calvin's pregnancy though. I'm a sucker for punishment, apparently. Why can't the entire 9 months be like the 3rd trimester. I love the 3rd trimester. The belly is big and beautiful, the baby kicks and moves, you can know the sex if you want to... I'd love to go team green for our last baby, but I've never been able to stay strong, so I really doubt I will this time either.

Other thoughts... I'll be pretty much exactly 12 weeks on Halloween. I was thinking of making one of those skeleton costumes with baby skeleton in the belly for my "official" facebook announcement. I'll be almost exactly 20 weeks at Christmas, so we could theoretically learn the sex as a Christmas present. Smile

I really hope this pregnancy goes well.

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I hope you can relax, Mary. I wanted a May baby for #4. I hope we can get early summer at least.

DH has had a lot to say about the m/c. He's been amazingly supportive the whole time. He was really disappointed and wants to try again right away. He's prepared to be cautiously excited next time (although we should know pretty early whether things are going well). And we're pretty sure #4 will be our last, but even he admits we might change our minds.

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That sounds about how DH and I were after my m/c. I guess we're just not the type to sit idly by, haha. I just remember feeling empty (physically and emotionally) and wanting to be pregnant again ASAP.

As for having an early Summer baby, I enjoyed having Sean on June 30th. The weather was so nice for the end of my pregnancy... Some days felt terribly hot, but for the most part, it was just really nice. We got to go on lots of great walks at the end of my pregnancy, including an insane hike through hilly woods that nearly broke my pelvis (what was I thinking, lol??)... Well I know what I was thinking.. I was trying to walk the baby out. I failed, hahaha. It wasn't the most convenient weather for having a new baby. I had hoped to get outside and walk more, but it was SO hot and sunny during my maternity leave, and I was afraid to take him out too much. Some of that was probably FTM over-cautiousness, though.

AFM - Going back to work today after 5 days off... *Tear* I've been incredibly lazy the last 5 days. I did get all caught up on laundry and dishes... We had started falling behind by the end of my 9-day work week, so it was nice to get that stuff caught up. We shampooed the living room carpet last night. So we were mildly productive, but mostly lazy. Haha. Smile

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It was way too hot an sunny when Alex was born, too. But, I actually loved being pregnant during the summer.
I just realized, Mary, that it's a great thing for me that you just got a BFP. I'm always 6 weeks behind you, right? So my next one should be due the end of June. Wink

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Hahahaha, I was thinking that same thing... If nothing else, it could work out with our 6-week spacing again. Too funny. Wink

AFM - I have 7 days of vacation coming up starting 2 weeks from today. I'm looking forward to it. We might go visit SIL and BIL at their new home in northern Michigan. BIL is in the Coast Guard and was relocated up there to work the great lakes right after their wedding in May. I really, really hope they start having babies soon, hahaha. They definitely want children and they're older than DH and I, so come on!! Smile

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Congrats on all the BFP's Mary, you can't argue with the digital! What a crappy situation for your friend, how could somebody be so heartless! It's not like she wasn't going to get them their pictures, they'd just be a few days late. But all those people saw was a loophole to save them some money. Jerks.

Katie - I knew you'd have baby/pregnancy fever soon! hahaha

Virginia - glad you're about done bleeding and all that. So glad your vacation was a blast!

AFM - our Parent/Tot swim class just started back up today. It was a lot of fun, Xander had a blast showing off all his new swimming skills. heh. This'll be the last time he can take this class since he'll turn 3 the same week it ends. Then he moves up to actual swim lessons! *gulp* Not sure if I'll sign him up for those right away in Oct/Nov or if we'll wait til after the baby is born. I guess I'll just wait and see how I feel in two months, whether I'm up for it or not. heh.

I'm feeling good, a little more energetic these last few days (oh don't worry, I'm still completely exhausted), so I've been tackling some projects... Like sewing new velcro tabs on all my Bum Genius cloth diapers. OMG worst job EVER! I hate sewing!!

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Glad he's doing well with the swimming! I wish I could do a Mommy and Me swim class, but it wouldn't work with the other kids in tow. I like sewing and still find sewing new tabs on diapers tedious. But, when it's done it stays done for a while.

AFM: The baby fever is getting ridiculous. It wouldn't be so bad if we could really TTC, but who knows when I'll get around to Oing. We'll probably have to avoid a mid-August to mid-October EDD (If not longer) because we probably have to move next fall. So hopefully I can get pregnant soon.

ETA: sinc we have so many little boys among us, I wanted to share what I just found: http://www.pottytarget.com/products/ I started looking for exactly that sort of product because my dad, who travels a lot, told me that a lot of urinals in Europe have fly etched into them to kind of force men to aim. I really need something because I'm freaking tired of cleaning off the wall, trash can, and especially the floor. I'm going to order them (as soon as I choose a style). I'll let you know how they work.

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Mary - I know you're nervous because of the m/c and cp. Is your doctor going to do any betas or an early u/s? I want to see pictures of a cute little bean.

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Nope... I'm not even telling him I'm pregnant yet, hahah. I've been getting waves of nausea, so unless that gets worse and develops into full-blown m/s to the point that I want zofran or something, I don't even intend to tell him for a while. Well, that probably won't happen though, because I ended up going in about the milk leaking, and he wants to send me for a breast ultrasound. I think it's a bit of overkill and probably just another thing to bill my insurance for.. So I don't really want to go, but they have literally called me every work day since last wednesday, and I'm starting to think they won't leave me alone. So, I might call them back about that and also just mention... "BTW, I found out I was pregnant the day after I saw the doctor" hahah. The good thing is, I accidentally told them the wrong LMP date when I was in there last week, and made myself 2 days further along than I really would be (really more than that since I don't think I O'ed till day 16-17)... But anyway, that means they'd make my appointment for just a tad sooner, hahah. Wink

Virginia - I hope you start to O again soon. After my m/c, I O'ed on CD28. I'm guessing it might take you a little longer since your pregnancy was further along and your HCG was so high, but I'm betting it won't be too horribly long. You're a fertile myrtle! Smile

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well, I plan to go in tomorrow morning to have my levels tested again. I'm hoping they're under 100, but I kind of doubt it. I wish I could find real info on whether it's possible to O before they drop all the way. Oh, and my progesterone must still be up because I'm running half a degree warmer than my normal pre-O.
GL with the nausea. That's really early for it to start. Maybe you got a little girl. Biggrin

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It's nothing bad yet, but just little fleeting bouts of it here and there. It's very similar to how it began with Sean... Little instances of minor nausea that erupted into horrid nausea starting at 5w6d, hahaha... I remember it quite vividly.

AFM - Still waiting to hear about the work transfer. The lady I was trying to trade with... She freaking QUIT today! Well, put in a resignation... Not sure if she still has to work a couple weeks or if she's done. But she said she was sick of waiting around for them to do something and tired of passing up other offers in the meantime. So anyway, it all makes sense now. I talked to my boss today and he told me he was SURE that the boss over the area where I'm trying to move would be calling me TODAY. He never did call me (GRRR!) but that HAS to be why my boss was so sure. They apparently talked after they got her resignation letter and decided to get the transfer done, and he asked the other lady if she would stay if they got the transfer done, and she said no. I still hope he saw how motivated I was to get into that store and will still consider moving me there. She told me I wouldn't find a better store... That the technicians are awesome and the other pharmacist there is just great. That makes me feel good. It sounds like the district boss is an idiot, but that the store is great... That's the important part... You only see the DM once every few months anyway, hahaha.

ETA: Today is 14 dpo for me. So I guess tomorrow makes my period officially "late". Although making it past 11dpo is late for me, haha.

Also - (I keep thinking of things to say.. sorry, hahah)... I took a leap of faith tonight and ordered a kit of iron-on pieces to make one of those pregnant skeleton shirts for my official announcement around Halloween time. I'm sure you're all aware of how insane the first trimester makes me, so the fact that I actually made a pregnancy-related purchase this early is a big deal... Especially since I'll probably never use it if this pregnancy doesn't work out.

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Virginia - I hope you get good results and O soon!

Mary - Yay for some waves of nausea Smile GL with the transfer I hope it works out quickly!

Lauren - so cute on the swim classes! We tried mommy and me swimming once and it was an epic fail but Evan loved my mom's pool this year

AFM - I need a new (awesome) job to fall in my lap. So far it's not working LOL Next week I'm away for 3 days then I have to work again Friday BAH! I'm not a fan of that Sad It's not improving my mood towards my job!

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Virginia - Good luck today, I hope you're under 100.

Katie - Booo for work. Seems like it went better after you went back after Evan. I hope a new awesome job falls into your lap! I was going to say, "And mine also" haha, but I guess I need to keep mine a little longer for the FMLA/maternity benefits I've built up. Actually, after October of next year, it's a free-for-all as far as I'm concerned. That's basically when the last string they hold over me is gone and I get to keep all my stock benefits, even if I quit. And if all goes well with this pregnancy, #3 will be here by then and we'll be done baby-making.

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Mary - I totally want to do one of those shirts! They're hilarious! But I'm also cheap and don't want to spend all the money on the decal AND have to buy a black t-shirt... So yeah, probably won't happen. haha.

Virginia - I hope your beta goes well and your numbers are down. And about the Parent/Tot Swim class, most YMCA's offer childcare for like $2/hr, so you can drop your other kid(s) off there.

Katie - sorry your job is still sucking lately. I hope things magically change and they get better.

AFM - having a totally nauseous day. Well, on-and-off. I'm fine right now, but I've had several episodes today where I had to lie down on the couch for an hour or I was going to puke nonstop. So we alternated between playing with playdoh, watching tv, going for a walk, watching tv... haha. I'd rather he watch some Mickey and me not puke. Boo, this isn't supposed to happen anymore at this point!

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sorry you're feeling so gross, Lauren. I hope it passes.

Mary - GL with the transfer!

AFM: 117. Not bad, I guess, considering they were over 100,000 three weeks ago. But, I'm tired of waiting! I guess my MW will call at some point and tell me what the plan is from here.

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Lauren - sorry for the grossness! I vote Mickey over puking too, totally!

Mary - Hmm no number 4? hehe Ya my workplace has been really miserable lately. I'm just at a weird career point to look for a change though. The industry I'm in is pretty specific, to go to another retailer I'd likely need to move which isn't high on my priority list to change industries I'd probably have to take a step back (and go full time) and who want to take a pay cut? But I'm keeping my eyes open for opportunities that seem to fit my skill set and I'll enjoy my 3 day work weeks while I do that Smile

Tomorrow is Rory's 9 month appointment! WILD! I can't believe how big he's getting. Today DH went to put him down and rather than just bending at the knees and sitting he stood there in the middle of the room not holding on to anything for like 5 seconds. I think he may walk before Evan did (~10 months). Now if we could just get him to STTN!

Man I'm trying to cut down to one pumping session a work day but it's miserably uncomfortable. I have SO much milk frozen (over 300oz) and Rory doesn't dig the bottle at all so he takes like 5oz while I work. I can easily pump 15 but have no need to continue to freeze it. But when I'm home with him the other 4 days a week he eats multiple times a day and he eats multiple times a night (and CHOWS when I get home from work). It's a bit annoying!

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Mary - Hmm no number 4?

Ugggghhh... I don't think I have it in me. The first trimester makes me too big of a freak. I can't cope with being pregnant again. And 3 was the number we originally agreed to, so I don't think I've got it in me to try to push it. Although I do like the idea of an even number, and if DH ever changed his mind on his own, I doubt I'd be able to resist, hahhaah...

Good luck cutting down on the nursing, hahaha. A girl on my Feb board is having trouble cutting it down and she's pregnant and exhausted. Her DD knows the word "nurse" and will scream it until she gives in, hahahaha. Ohhh goodness.

Virginia - Glad to hear the # is getting pretty low.

Lauren - Sorry about the nausea... NO fun. Blaaah.

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Just a quick post I've been reading but no time to do personals. Just thought I'd say a quick hi let everyone know I am still around before chasing a puppy and 3 & 1/2 year old (that 1/2 is important) around.

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9 month stats for Rory...21lbs and 30" same length and 1 lb less than Evan at 9 months! My boys run neck and neck! I'll be curious if Rory slows down like Evan did around 12-18 mo. Evan dropped from 70-90 percentiles to 50s. It wasn't my favorite pedi he was on vaca. I don't love the one I saw today she's just eh. She told me to night wean him (ok you stay up all night b/c I'm not) and I just nodded and smiled. She did do the entire exam pretty much on my lap which was nice. Now we have the combo 1 yr & 3 yr apt scheduled! That blows my mind.

Mary - go for 4 Wink LOL

OK off to try and wrestle Evan down for a nap, ugh, the one time I miss the crib!

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Mary - the "I don't have it in me" is exactly how I feel right now about having 3. For awhile I used to say I wanted 3, but it's been awhile. And ever since getting pregnant again my mind is definitely made up. There is just no way I can do this again. I enjoyed my pregnancy with Xander, but this one can't be over soon enough. It's not that I'm uncomfortable or that anything is wrong, I'm just over it. lol. I do love the kicks, though. That's definitely the one amazing part of pregnancy.

Katie - good luck with all the naps and night sleep! I hope I get another great sleeper, I love my sleep and really don't want to even imagine having a kid that won't sleep...

Virginia - glad the numbers are so low! Not much longer now...

Amanda - hi!

AFM - Feeling a lot better today. I was pretty much over the nausea by 1pm or so yesterday. Today has been a busy day, with swim and grocery shopping and what-not. I am treating myself to a nap this afternoon while Xander naps! haha. I always need it on Thursdays, they wear me out!

I bought some orange and green and chocolate sprinkles today. They had them on special and I couldn't resist - time to make Fall cookies! It's supposed to cool down in a few days, so that should give Xander and I a fun project. It's a little early, but I'm just so ready for Fall already!!!!!!!!!!!

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Lauren - I am so ready for fall also! Too bad it's 85 degrees and humid here right now - ugh.

Katie - Ugh to being told to night wean! He's still a baby! I would be annoyed if the ped told me to do that at 9 months. Lily still nurses to sleep and on and off during the night (a lot more on lately since she is cutting molars) and her doctor hasn't said boo about it. I would love to eliminate the screams of "nurse booby" in the middle of the night - that is really not fun at 2am.

Amanda - hi!! :waves:

Mary - Let's see what you think about 4 once you hit 2nd tri! LOL! How is the transfer going?

Virginia - Glad your numbers are coming down.

We have had a busy week - We took Lily you the museum of natural history for her b-day on Monday - she LOVED the dinosaurs and has been asking to go back every day since then. We also went out for pizza (she chose her meals - her favorite diner for pancakes was her breakfast choice).

Yesterday she had her 2 yr appointment - she is 25 lbs, 10 oz and 35.9 inches - tall and skinny!! They did a lead test and it was totally normal and she was awesome during it - didn't even flinch for the finger prick (I did, good thing she was on DH's lap).

We talked to the doctor about her toe-walking, she's been doing it since she started walking and it is actually getting worse, I am concerned about short/tight achilles tendons. I know it can be something that is easy to treat early on, but as they get older it gets a lot harder to do things about because it can impact the way the bones grow. Anyway - we are going to get a physical therapy evaluation through EI and see what they say, then go from there. I am planning on asking the PT that does the eval about things we can do at home in the meantime. I really doubt she will qualify for services through EI and our insurance sucks so I want to find out if there is anything we can do.

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Erica - LOL to the "nurse booby" screams! I imagine that will be my life when Rory starts talking. I never liked the doctor and she started the convo with "so how much formula does he get a day?" Errrr how about you read my file? It's pretty clear I've never used formula. But I just ignored her, my regular doc has never said anything honestly I don't think he even asks about STTN. Our 1yr/3yr apt is with him thankfully.

Ugh Evan is a bolter and he came darn close to running in the road at my mom's. She doesn't live on a highway by any means but it's still not OK and certainly could have been a disaster. Besides being sure we have his hand at this point I'm not sure there's any way to really end we talk about roads and cars and danger but while he can tell you "cars are dangerous" he doesn't really grasp it.

Ugh we're currently having a "I need to go potty" freak out then he won't sit on the potty. He hates pooping on the potty. I'm not sure how to get him over this particular problem

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Erica - My BFF was always a toe walker, up until we were about 7-8 years old and one of our teachers MADE her stop. She basically told her, "You will not walk on your toes in my classroom." She stopped then and never really was a toe walker after that, but she does have permanent leg issues from it. Not only are her achilles tendons short, but her actual leg muscles are short and she lost a great deal of flexibility in her legs, which she'll never recover. Nip it in the bud!!

Katie - Sean is a "bolter" too, uggghhhh... We have to hold his hand with a death grip whenever we go anywhere. I always try to stop and remind him to look before walking into a street, parking lot, anything... But it's like he just doesn't think of it on his own. It stresses me out!!

AFM - FINALLY... I just got a phone call from my potential boss about the transfer. It has been WEEKS and he has not returned my calls, emails, etc. The other lady that was going to try to trade me stores just got pissed and put in her resignation on Tuesday. My current boss (who is a MUCH better communicator) called me at 8am today and asked me to please not get frustrated and quit because he really thinks the thing is going to go through. So anyway, he finally called me tonight and I am to meet him on Wednesday at 6pm (I work 8-4 that day, so it's going to be a long day, but hopefully fruitful!). The only thing that sucks is that there's another girl who is currently in his district who is floating between three stores (including the one I want), and she wants full time at that store. Who's to say she won't get the spot since she's already in with him??? Ugggghhh... He phrased it almost like it's a freaking job interview (ugh) for the exact same job I've been doing the past 5 years, hahaha... Goodness. So we shall see.... Wish me luck!

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Good luck, Mary!

Katie - have you considered using a leash with Evan? They have some really cute ones which look like animal backpacks. Raymond was a bolter and I used the leash a lot. I took a lot of crap for it (from strangers and kidless family) but it kept him from running into traffic.

Lauren - glad you're feeling better!

Erica - I hope you can get PT without too much hassle.

AFM: got a negative OPK today! :woohoo: HPT is super light. Hopefully soon I'll be getting genuine positive OPKs. DH has been really pulling the heartstrings telling me how much he wants another baby.
and wow... my kids are big!

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Katie and Mary - so scary that you have bolters! I am so lucky that Xander isn't a bolter. He bolted exactly twice and made it one step into the road before I grabbed him by the arm or shirt or whatever I could get my hands on and dragged him home (both times we were on our way to the park). I think he was so upset about not getting to go to the park and he just "got it" right away. I'm not nice, if he breaks a huge rule like that we go straight home and I sternly give him a piece of my mind the entire walk. lol. But I think a lot of it is just his personality, he's a good listener. I figure I'm screwed with the next one and will get a little rebellious child. haha

Virginia - glad the opk is negative and the hpt is almost there!

AFM - my stomach exploded in the last week! I am huge! I've gotten comments from neighbors and DH and other people all week about it. haha. It also came with a nice 2 lb weight gain. Ugh. Oh well, still only up 9 lbs and I'm 24 weeks, so I can hardly complain... I just hope I can keep up this rate of gain through my entire pregnancy! I do not want to gain a ton in the end like I did last time. I was just so tired and crabby all the time, so I ate. And ate. And atttttteeee! But I learned my lesson, so I doubt I'll do the same thing again this time.

The weather is gorgeous! The heat finally went away!!! YIPPIE! Let's just hope it stays this way, I'm loving the 70's!

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Katie and Mary - so scary that you have bolters! I am so lucky that Xander isn't a bolter. He bolted exactly twice and made it one step into the road before I grabbed him by the arm or shirt or whatever I could get my hands on and dragged him home (both times we were on our way to the park). I think he was so upset about not getting to go to the park and he just "got it" right away. I'm not nice, if he breaks a huge rule like that we go straight home and I sternly give him a piece of my mind the entire walk. lol. But I think a lot of it is just his personality, he's a good listener. I figure I'm screwed with the next one and will get a little rebellious child. haha

Virginia - glad the opk is negative and the hpt is almost there!

AFM - my stomach exploded in the last week! I am huge! I've gotten comments from neighbors and DH and other people all week about it. haha. It also came with a nice 2 lb weight gain. Ugh. Oh well, still only up 9 lbs and I'm 24 weeks, so I can hardly complain... I just hope I can keep up this rate of gain through my entire pregnancy! I do not want to gain a ton in the end like I did last time. I was just so tired and crabby all the time, so I ate. And ate. And atttttteeee! But I learned my lesson, so I doubt I'll do the same thing again this time.

The weather is gorgeous! The heat finally went away!!! YIPPIE! Let's just hope it stays this way, I'm loving the 70's!

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Lauren - You're lucky to have a good listener. Sean is soooo freaking defiant, disobedient, omg. Calvin is definitely my good little listener by comparison. I can remember him being less than 12mo, and I could tell him, "Go lay down and get your diaper changed" or "Go put your toys in the basket" and he would totally do it. Sean... He makes his own rules, LOL. The kid spends SO much freaking time in time-out. It's funny though, because he really is good... Strangers and people that we don't see all the time always tell us about how polite he is... At the end of our lunch at a restaurant yesterday, he told the waitress, "Thank you for taking all of our food away" as she was clearing the table. He really is a sweetie, but he knows how to test boundaries with me and DH.

Virginia - Yay for negative OPK!! I can't wait until they start getting dark again. You'll have to post a pic of THAT progression for us. Smile It's good to hear your DH is on board to try again.

AFM - I don't want to wish this pregnancy away, but I hate that it's going soooooo slowly. I am not even to the point yet where the bean SHOULD have a heartbeat, omg. That part freaks me out. It seems like that's a pretty delicate and important part of the process since the m/c rate goes down quite a bit after heartbeat has begun. When does it start, somewhere like 5.5-6 weeks? Come on time, just go a tad faster for my sanity??

In other news, a week from tomorrow, I go for my bilateral breast ultrasound. Fun fun. They said it would take 45 minutes. They clearly have never seen my boobs, LMAO!! Seriously. There's not 45 minutes worth of material there to scan. After breastfeeding and weaning twice, they're essentially empty sacks of skin. Can't wait until these pregnancy hormones make them grow again, haha. Biggrin

ETA: I'm feeling excessively CM-ish today, and I hate it. I feel the need to check for bleeding every other minute. Grrr.

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Virginia - for busy places I definitely think a leash would work well! We aren't really going anywhere any time soon but if we do I will probably get one! Can't wait for you to get back to TTC Smile

Lauren - For the most part Evan is a pretty good listener. He has his moments of taking toys his brother is playing with or jumping on the couch when I've told him not to but I wouldn't describe him as too defiant. Seems like a typical toddler that leans on the independent side. The bolting thing though is definitely his biggest issue area. It probably doesn't help that our house isn't in an area where it's at all dangerous so until recently we probably haven't really paid close attention. We live on a 5 house cul de sac far from a main road and we have a stockade fence and an attached garage. I actually think he picked the habit up at daycare where he and his BFF Lola apparently play keep away from staff together (everything is fenced and locked but he's told me that they "run away" and Lola is a notorious bolter she's got the devil in her but is adorable). Sigh. I can't imagine Rory bolting but then again he has to sleep touching me and hardly lets me leave a room. The independent kid and the codependent kid!

Mary - That is no fun at all (the CM) but I'm sure everything is healthy and growing - sending LOTS of sticky vibes your way!!

Lazy Sunday here. I'm going away tomorrow-Wed and Rory is a teething night waking/nursing nightmare. Poor DH. Rory is up every 1-2 hours and the only thing that relaxes him is nursing. He is going to terrorize DH Sad He spent most of last night sleeping laying across me nursing when he wanted. He's not a stoic little man (Evan hardly batted an eye even for his 2 yr molars). I told DH sincerely to sleep where ever tonight to get a good night's sleep b/c Mon and Tue nights will likely be long. Rory doesn't cope well w/o me to begin with, hates bottles as a general rule and the teething only compounds it. I am feeling rather guilty about having ot leave but there's no way around it. boo Sad

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"kmm123" wrote:

Lola is a notorious bolter she's got the devil in her but is adorable).

ROFL This cracked me up, hahahah. Leave it to Lola.

AFM - Thankfully, the CM has been clear thus far. I hope it stays that way. *Sigh*

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Lola actually lives on the next road and they will go to school together all through - I imagine Lola will always be a ring leader Wink We joke they will go to prom together

Oh anyone have any words of advice for HATING haircuts? Evan has progressively gotten worse and worse with haircuts. Yesterday I had to basically hold him in a body lock while he screamed and cried and I told her to just buzz it as fast as she could. He was SOBBING, yelling for daddy, asking to get down. Ugh. Total scene.

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Sean is the same with haircuts... So I've resorted to doing most of them myself at home with DH's clippers, haha. I only take him to get it done professionally for special occasions, like SIL's wedding, because he freaks out about it.

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Oh, haircuts. We've gotten all the boys done in the past few weeks. Raymond went through a bad phase with that. A few ideas. 1. go to a different place 2. tell him in advance he'll get rewarded for good behavior 3. avoid the clippers. See if they can do it all with scissors. (at least for a few times) 4. let him watch Daddy get a haircut 5. distraction. Got an iphone? I don't, but my mom was with us once and the kids were little angels as long as she let them play with it

Mary - I want haircut tips! How did you learn to do it? I totally want to, at least for Raymond. I like the others' hair longer right now. 45 minutes for a breast u/s? The two I've had never took nearly that long. But... I have amazingly tiny breasts.

AFM: It is so darn frustrating waiting for my body to figure things out. I also realized something the other day. We're not going to try to sway for a girl anymore. I've tried that twice with mostly dietary changes, but also supplemental magnesium (not a lot) which is supposed to make the egg more attractive to X-bearing sperm. Unlikely, but I figured it was worth a try. The first cycle we tried it was the only cycle we've TTC and I haven't gotten pregnant. The second cycle was the BO, which is almost always an egg defect. I don't know if the magnesium contributed (it's usually an egg with no genetic material, so probably not) but I'm not risking it. More boys here, I guess.
I also was reading Discover Magazine and came across an interesting tidbit. They did a big piece about population and gender ratios and stuff. The mentioned a study, published last year, I think, which found that a pain of non smokers will produce a gender ratio of 1.14 (114 boys for every 100 girls) while two smokers will have a ratio of 0.7 (70 boys for every 100 girls). Crazy. I have to try to find the study sometime because I'm really curious about how the controlled for all the other factors.

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Virginia - That study sounds interesting... DH and I are both non-smokers and ended up with two boys. Hmmm! Of course we also DTD on the day of ovulation both times, also. This time, we DTD 2-3 days before (I'm anxious to have an ultrasound for official due date so that I can backtrack and find out a better idea of when I O'ed). Better chance for a girl, maybe? DH was actually trying to think of names for both boys and girls in bed last night as we were settling in. It was sweet. Smile I'm anxious to see if you end up with a girl...

AFM - Restless night for me last night. Grrrr. Calvin was awake a lot. The temp wasn't just right in the bedroom, I went from hot to cold repeatedly, up to pee half a dozen times, etc. Just a NOT great night. Then in the 5 minutes of sleep that I managed to get, I had a dream that I was bleeding and likely m/c-ing. Ugh. Sad I guess it's nice to wake up and realize that it was just a dream, but at the same time, it just leaves you with a bad feeling about the bleeding.

ETA: I should be about 20 DPO today. I was reading around that the heart usually starts beating at 21 dpo (some say 23 dpo)... But theoretically, my bean's heart could start beating tomorrow. Wow!

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sorry about the rough night and the bad dream. GL getting that heart beating tomorrow!

AFM: I go back Wednesday for another hcg level. The MW thinks there's a good chance it will be down, but I suspect I'll have to wait another week. I'm starting to get some fertile signs again, though. I don't know if I'll bother to chart them on FF because they're hard to classify.

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Mary - sorry about the crappy night of sleep. Ah, early pregnancy. Hormones and stress make you so freakin' crazy! I'm finally just now sleeping okay again, but I know once I hit the third tri that'll go away. haha.

Virginia - interesting about the smokers. Wonder what that's about...

AFM - Nothing new, just finished working out and I think I'm going to use the rest of the time Xander is napping to treat myself to a nap! That or watch TV. Who needs to be productive?!

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Lauren - I say take a nap!

Just a guess, I think a pair of smokers is more likely to have a girl because smoking (and smoke exposure) deprives the embryo of oxygen. Girl embryos are thought to be hardier, so maybe the increased m/c rate for smokers is mostly male embryos. Again, just a guess.

AFM: TMI Hmm... I think the somewhat fertile signs might actually be pre-AF signs. Basically, my cervix was opening and I was getting a little EW-type CM, but that happens immediately before AF for me, too. And i've had some symptoms which are almost always pre-AF instead of pre-O. And I just started spotting again. For the first time in... oh... 2 days. :doh:

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Some of you ladies have been CHATTY!

The hair cut talk makes me glad I have a girl, Nat's had a whole of 3 hair cuts, 2 outside the home. She was good for both but we do have a place that specializes in doing kids hair.

Mary - Sorry about the rough night. Sad

Virginia - Good luck with the levels. Sending you lots of pink vibes for next pregnancy.

I've never smoked and had two girls. What are your genetic factors like? My family has lots of girls and DH's family seems to be a pretty even split.

If it is AF for you I hope it leads into a nice good cycle.

Lauren - Sounds like a good use of nap time to me.

*AFM*

Things are just crappy today!

1:30 am my phone chimes, its a phishing attempt.

I spent 6 hours last night working on a photobook on Shutterfly for my mom, this morning she calls the first thing she said about it was a critique of what I did wrong, not a word of thanks, I hung up. I've messaged her on facebook explaining I was upset cause she didn't appreciate what I did and then she continued to critique me personally instead. She can be such a wonderful, kind, generous person so it really hurts when she goes at me like this, so I am pretty upset right now.

Just after this happens Natalie wants TV, I was cool with that cause I wanted to get chili in the slow cooker, it would give me 25 minutes of peace. So I go to get the TV on and the digital box is acting up, and not turning on, Natalie goes into a fit. Well after some fussing with the box I got it to work.

Of course this isn't the end of it, though definitely the lest stressful, Apollo decided that every toy Natalie left on or around the coffee table is his to eat, so I end up having to get a 3 year old to clean up her toys & books while watching TV as I restrain the dog.

And after all that I still had to get chili in the slow cooker.

Really wish the 3 year old would nap and the puppy would sleep in his crate for a short bit, I could use the break.

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Hi ladies! Jumping in as I promise to try and stay a bit more on top of things here. Smile

Virginia - I get EWCM the day or two before AF, too. It's annoying! Lol Also, my body is confused, too! We can be confused together. I quit pumping 5 weeks ago and STILL have not gotten AF. I mean, what's there to complain about, right? Haha. But I feel all 'off' and weird and just wish something would happen! I've had two episodes of tons of EWCM - one about a week after I quit pumping, and one about 2 weeks ago. But since then, nothing! I'm anxious to see if the episode 2 weeks ago was successful and AF will come any day! I just want to get a handle on things for DTD. We've only once since Sam because I'm too afraid of what the heck is going on in there! I just want a starting point! Wink And DH and I are both nonsmokers, too! And two boys for us. We'd probably have 600 more boys, too!

Amanda - Sorry about your mom! That stinks. I know how you feel about the TV thing - Owen is the same way! I usually put on Disney Jr. while I get dinner ready/feed Sam/etc. and Owen is going through this thing where he wants to watch a million different shows. We have Mickey and Handy Manny and Doc McStuffins DVR'd, which he knows, so sometimes it can be 10 mins of him changing his mind 10000 times. I used to put up with it, but I don't anymore! After a few minutes, he quits whining. Wink

Mary - I hate nights like that! Two nights ago Sam was up every freaking hour. I had gotten up with him at 5am the morning before, and literally the SECOND I fell asleep that night is when he woke up crying. Sooo frustrating! So I was up until 2am. I was so tired I was practically crying - thankfully DH came in and took over for me and I got, like, 60 mins of sleep. Terrible! Of course, he rewarded us last night by sleeping 8-5. Stinker. I wish he'd pick a schedule (the latter, please!) and stick to it! Wink

Lauren - I say, watch TV! How are you feeling? I can't believe you're hitting the 3rd tri here in the next month! So crazy!! You gender US is coming up in a few weeks, right? I can't remember, are you finding out? maybe they'll be right this time, right? Wink

AFM - Lots and lots! I think I'm getting the hang of two kids, but then we have a bad day and I feel crazy and desolate and wondering what the heck I did thinking I wanted multiple children! Haha! That gets better, right guys??? Wink

Owen had his second speech eval yesterday (he had one back in April, but didn't qualify), and he STILL didn't qualify! He's JUST squeaking out. Anyhow, they decided to push it through for us because I really want some help. He talks all the time, but he's awful to understand. The speech therapist said yesterday he has all age-appropriate sounds, he just won't use his vowels in words properly. Weird, right? But apparently that's why he's so hard to understand. Soooooo. We're getting set up with a speech therapist and she is starting Thursday! I am so excited to finally get him talking properly so we understand him! Hopefully that will cut down on frustration for both parties!! Smile

Sam is doing well! His sleep has been a little insane, which in turn drives me a little insane, but I guess I have to remember he's not even 3 months old yet! I know it will shape up here soon! We have good nights, then really bad nights. His naps are typically pretty crappy (you know, the 40 min "take the edge off" snooze that makes things worse), but I *think* I'm starting to see some shape to his day. I am desperate for his routine to emerge! I think I see one, then the next thing I know, he changes it up. Babies! Wink But really, he is a happy happy guy! Loves to be snuggled and talked too and the like! He's totally smiley all the time and coos up a storm. We joke he'll be talking before Owen. Wink

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Jen - Interesting about Owen's speech. Did they give any reason to why he might not use the vowels properly? Interesting. A girl that I work with has a degree in linguistics and knows all about how we form words... I should recommend speech therapy as a future career to her, lol... It kills me that she works as a pharm tech and is not even remotely using her degree, even though she's HIGHLY intelligent.

I hope Sam settles into a routine for you soon. I know it's really difficult until they do!!

Amanda - Sorry your mom was so rude about your photo gift... She ought to just appreciate the gesture. Grrrr...

Virginia - I suppose it wouldn't be a horrible thing to have an anno cycle after the m/c, then just have AF and start fresh. Good luck on the becoming fertile!!

Lauren - I hope you napped! Haha, I ALWAYS pick nap when I have the opportunity. It's even harder to get a nap with two kids, because they almost NEVER sleep at the same time during the day. Especially now that Sean rarely ever naps anymore. So on the off chance that they do nap together, I definitely join them, haha.

AFM - O....M....G........ You would think it would be fresh in my mind after having two babies in the not-so-distant past, but somehow I forgot how FREAKING EXHAUSTING it is to grow a human. OMG. I just forgot this somehow. That sort of deep tired that just makes you feel like crying, that doesn't go away after you sleep, that turns you into a walking zombie. I feel like death. And... I have a cold sore. Ugh. What is it about early pregnancy that makes me get cold sores??? I hadn't had one in a long time before this, grrr.

On another note, I meet wit potential future boss tomorrow about the transfer. I sooo hope it goes well. I'm nervous to meet him after he was described to me as "an @ss even on his best day". Yikes.

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really busy trying to get a photo book done (tons of sympathy for you, Amanda. It's so much work! I wish your effort had been appreciated). No real news other than the typical TMI. I spotted pink/red a little today. it's been all brown for 2+ weeks, so who knows. Annov wouldn't be too bad, although I'd rather not wait another 2+ weeks to O!

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Virginia - I'll be anxious to find out exactly what it is your body is up to.

AFM - It has been 9 days since I last POAS. It feels like an eternity. I wish I could start going to doctor appointments or something. I hate this period of idly waiting.

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Jen - did you ever take Owen in to have his ears checked? Even if they're clear now, he could've had fluid in them when he was younger. That's what happened to Xander. We had him in speech therapy for awhile, but she basically just watched him and was like "oh he'll be fine." It was REALLY frustrating to me for awhile because I wanted her to DO something to make him talk more clearly and to talk more, but she basically just observed him week after week. I was all mad about it for awhile, but then on his own his speech just EXPLODED and he started talking more clearly and saying tons more - and this has been somewhat recently!! Probably the last 2 months. He's playing catch up big time and I'm so happy. We're still going to have his speech evaluated again next month when he turns 3, but I don't think they'll necessarily want to see him. If they do, it'll be for very minor stuff. I hope the therapy goes well today and you get some good exercises to do with him at home. Also, glad everything else is going well! Hopefully Sam will fall into a routine soon.

Mary - good luck at your appointment/interview!

Virginia - hope you figure out your cycle soon.

Amanda - sorry your mom made you feel crappy.

AFM - I chose nap. And I also chose a nap yesterday. We were so busy all morning that I just couldn't do anything else by the time Xander went down for his nap. And today I killed myself cleaning floors and going to the park and all sorts of crap this morning, so I'm exhausted! Seriously considering skipping my workout AGAIN to favor a nap. I hate skipping workouts, but man am I tired!

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