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    So I went to the clinic but I wasn't able to be seen today -- The doctor was f*cking crazy! (I'll clean up my language once I have a kid, don't worry) She moved her hands so much when she was talking I thought at first (I really did!) That she was partially deaf and was signing along with her talking.

    Me: I need a blood test to confirm a pregnancy. That's a walk-in test right? (I already know it is, that's my way of suggesting I'm not totally familar with this clinic's pregnancy procedures.)
    Her: (Skeptical look)
    Me: I've had two positive home tests already, I just need to confirm it.
    Her: How old are you? You're a cutie!
    Me: Uhm, 20. Thanks.
    Her: Is this your first pregnancy?
    Me: (Thinking: you really need to ask me this at the counter, with everyone craning their necks to look. Please notice the ring on my left hand, I'm not a *****.) Um, no. Actually it's my fourth.
    Her: And you're 20?! (I put my left hand with the big pretty ring conspicously on the counter between us, but she failed to notice my gesture) I'm just gonna speak my mind here...
    Male nurse who has seen me all three times before, and who is sitting next to her at said counter: I don't think you should. (Uncomfortable amount of silence...)
    Her: Well I could draw your blood but I have to go pee...
    Me: Uhm, I can wait.
    Her: At Ramstein. (This means she had a random drug test that day) Are you active duty?
    Me: Yes, Air Force.
    Her: Damnit, that complicates things. If you weren't I'd just take your stuff and dip it with mine. (Probably wanted my clean pee to switch with her obviously drug-ridden sample) But active duty requires a blood test.
    Me: (Wondering how to get my blood drawn and leave. Wondering why just because she is busy today that means one of the A1C nurses running around can't just take my blood like the last THREE TIMES) So...
    Her: So just come back tomorrow, anytime before 11. Bye!

    So I left, tinged with anger. I'll just have to go BEFORE work tomorrow and see the crazy lady. Hopefully I'll get progesterone supplements like my previous doctor said I could, once I got pregnant again.
    Of course there is always the very real chance that she'll pop positive for drugs and someone else will have to see me. Darn.

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    I went to the clinic at Ramstein to get my blood drawn, thankful that I was able to go today (Everyday counts with progesterone supplements and they are finally testing my levels THIS TIME) and when I got up to the counter the guy told me the computers were down so they wouldn't be able to know what to draw...so just "Come back Tuesday." (It's a 4 day weekend beginning tomorrow so I would have to wait 5 days to get my results!) I was going to give up and pout, but Brandon...clever boy that he is...told me to ask them to call my doctor and have him fax what I needed drawn over. And you know what? It worked. I would have never thought of that. So they drew 9 TUBES! I've had the pregnancy workup before, (Three times to be exact, and it's always been 6 tubes) so does the progesterone test requires 3 whole tubes of blood?! And they got a urine sample. (I'm still wondering if the crazy doctor is going to get her hands on it after all, ha ha....and I DID have to see her yesterday She WAS a little less crazy, I'll give her that) Lol. So hopefully I'll be able to get my blood test results by calling tomorrow....although the 4 day weekend starts tomorrow so I don't know if the lab techs will be in. Well anyways, not much else to report today. My boobies are a little sore, and I've been extra-EXTRA hungry....so at this stage (Like 4.5 weeks) I guess I am right on track!

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    I was eating out for lunch today with Brandon - Cantina Mexicana, if you are ever in the Kaiserslaturn part of Germany...and let me just say that what I about to recount in no way reflects on thier food - and walking out into the parking lot I felt like I had to burp. No nausea. I was going to be discrete and burp with my mouth shut, when my mouth starting filling with vomit. I had to spit it in the parking lot...I can only imagine how well that will help business. Can you imagine it, people driving around trying to decide where to have lunch at...oh, there's the Chinese place...there's the Cantina...oh. Hmm. A girl just threw up after eating there. Maybe we'll have Chinese today. Lol. But i don't think that could count as morning sickness, becuase I never felt sick at all. It was just a random tossing of the old cookies. That's all I got for today!

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    "Progesterone levels also can have quite a variance at this stage of pregnancy. They can range from 9-47ng/ml in the first trimester, with an average of 12-20ng/ml in the first 5-6 weeks of pregnancy.

    With both hCG levels and progesterone levels, it is not the single value that can predict a healthy pregnancy outcome. It is more important to evaluate two different values to see if the numbers are increasing. hCG levels should be increasing by at least 60 % every 2-3 days, but ideally doubling every 48-72 hours. Progesterone levels rise much differently than hCG levels, with an average of 1-3ng/ml every couple days until they reach their peak for that trimester. In situations when there is a concern of an ectopic pregnancy or miscarriage, hCG levels will often start out normal, but will not show a significant increase or will stop rising all together and progesterone levels will be low from the beginning. "


    So I'll be able to call for my progesterone levels in 2-3 days (Again, damn you, long weekend) It's good that progesterone levels aren't tricky like HCG levels (My HCG levels ALWAYS start out GREAT and then, wham! Miscarriage) According to this, progesterone levels start low and stay low when miscarriage is destined to happen. And it says 9-47 units (Whatever they're called) is enough to sustain a pregnancy through the first trimester. So I'm hoping for at least 25. Come on!!

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    Damnit!!! I was writing this nice long post and accidentally hit 'Back' and lost what I was working on. ANYWAYS...I was saying...
    My levels came back 24.20, which is close enough to 25 that I feel okay. I was either 4 weeks exactly or 4 weeks and 3 days when that was drawn, so that's even a little high for that far along. I just wish that I had my progesterone checked in the last pregnancies because then I would be able to tell if this is a good sign (!) or just par the course. Or god forbid, lower! My doctor sent me back and had more blood drawn today (2 Tubes, for progesterone and quant) The airman that pulled my blood was so confused today. Everything was okay until he pulled the needle out and got squirted with my blood. It was trickled down my arm...gross. (And a lot darker then I thought it'd be, like a dark ruby-black...lots of iron, right?) He kept pulling the white gauze off and wiping the new flow and then he was like "I don't understand this." So I took my eyes off the ceiling -- cobweb in the corner-- (I still can't watch, even though I've had redicuous amounts drawn by now) and noticed what was wrong right away...the tourniquet was still tied around my sweater. (Yes, sweater...even though it's almost June a cold front *Can't you tell I'm a weather girl* is pushing through Germany and it's wet and cold and breezy...like 6c...in the 40's) He looked a little sheepish, as he should...their tech school is 16 months, you can't learn how to draw blood right in 16 months?! Anyways, said doctor put a 'STAT' on my blood, but I feel asleep this afternoon and forgot to call. I'll call in the morning, swear! This is my first quant for this pregnancy, so I don't have a ideal number in mind...but progesterone I would like to be...30-35, maybe? Lol, I'll post tomorrow once I get my numbers.
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    Ha ha, this is so weird of me...I'm sitting here trying to decide if I feel sick...and I'm pleased that I kind of do! Okay, okay, I'm not actually puking but still. I've never felt sick with any of my other three...not really. So...maybe this is a good sign?

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    So I got my secondary test results back, the progesterone was 17.88. So it dropped I have to admit, at this point I quite expected this. I can't even say I'm upset or heartbroken. I'm numb. When I heard it, I thought...well, at least now I can wear that bikini I bought right before I found out. A little callous, I know. I DID read that progesterone can wiggle a little and still be okay, but 24 to 17 isn't really a wiggle...especially with my history. I still have my appointment on the 6th, and I've had no bleeding or cramping (What a suprise, huh?). Still, though, I find myself hoping that they'll offer me a ultrasound and there will be a little bean with a beating heart. Somehow. Like my sheer will can resurrect the dead.

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    Still no bleeding or cramping! My first appointment is tomorrow afternoon. I had HCG levels drawn yesterday, and I'm going to call for the results in...5 hours or something like that. (I'm at work) So...arggghhhh the wait. (Of course, by now I've convinced that is was POSSIBLE that my progesterone levels are just crazy, and everything is okay!)

    Things that can effect progesterone levels are:

    Other medications, such as ampicillin and clomiphene. (Not taking)
    The time of day when you have the test. Progesterone levels normally fluctuate during the day. (It was morning...I donlt know what that means)
    How long it has been since you have eaten. (I didn't have breakfast before the test...)
    Exercise. (Hmmm...sometimes)
    Having a test such as a thyroid scan or bone scan that used a radioactive substance (tracer) within 1 week before the progesterone test.
    Where you are in your menstrual cycle. (Not, I'm pregant)

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    Wouldn't you know they lost my blood? I had to give another sample so maybe THAT one will be ready in a couple hours. I did have a ultrasound today, but it wasn't very helpful either way. It showed a gestational sac and a yolk sac way in the corner. But I am only 5.5 -6 weeks, and I have a tilted uterus, so it could either be okay, or it could mean another miscarriage. This is aggrivating that I can't just know. The doctor told me today that they want to find out soon, too....so they don't waste so much time on me as they did before. Since I'll probably just miscarry again. What a peach. She was very cold to me, and told me that she had her own medical appointment scheduled so she wasn't going to spend much time with me. I really don't like the medical system here, it's like they know they don't have to be nice to you...cause being military it's not really like you can take your business elsewhere. Whatever. I hope she gets in a minor car wreck and has painful whiplash. *****.

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    Well, they found my old quant...and get this, the one I had drawn yesterday...was just a qualitative...a 'yes' or 'no' one! OBVIOUSLY I was going to trigger that as positive...for god sake the ultrasound showed a sack! Anyways, so the one of mine from the 5th, was 4610. So I wanted at least 3200, so 4610's good. I checked with a hcg doubling calculator and it says mine are doubling every 48.8 hours. So I don't like that I didn't see a fetus, (Although I do have a tipped uterus) but maybe we aren't out of the game yet!

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