talk to me about natural hospital births... I've done 2. Is boise too far to drive when you're in labor because I know a GREAT hospital.. lol
The important thing is writing your birth plan. Make sure it's thorough.
You're beautiful, btw... you look like you're happy, just really happy.
Hi Nadine!! :wavehello: It was great talking to ya tonight! I hope Odessa was able to reconcile with the loss of her bathtub! We'll definitely have to talk about natural births, I would love to have you impart your wisdom!
I just want to tell you that this website is full of birth stories, from which you can learn SO much!
(just start lurking!) If you go on birthing naturally board- you will learn about the type of birth you want but most likely done at home. If you go to this month's birth boards- you might learn what to expect from a hospital birth, what someone liked or disliked-and adapt that to your situation.
Isn't it funny that everyone is trying to push their own agenda be it doctors or midwives?
Are you watching the BabyStory on TLC? If you watch long enough, there is bound to be a story about natural hospital birth!
if you get discovery health, I'd highly recommend watching house of babies.. it's a birthing center, with midwives. Much more natural birth friendly than a Baby Story. Those women on there scare even me. Discovery Health has a ton of birthing stories that are more centered around the natural birth, and there is one show that has a lot of hospital births too.
I had a great time talking to you, you sound just like you look like you would (isn't that funny?) I just wish we could have talked longer. Odessa calmed down once I stopped dressing her. Poor girl does not like having to put clothes on. If I'd left her naked the whole time she'd have been fine. Kaden did the same thing to me. Glad you got to hear my little drama queen's scream.
It's Wednesday, which means...
:party: 14 week party!!!!!!! :party:
:clink: :kaos10: 2ND TRIMESTER PARTY!!!! :clink: :kaos10:
Wow, I almost can't believe it... second trimester already???!?!? Seems like just yesterday I was staring at the digital, straining my eyes to make sure it really did say "Pregnant". I am so happy baby and I have made it this far together!!
Asha and Nadine - thanks for the tips! I will definitely lurk around and read birth stories on here. Unfortunately though, we don't have cable. We only use our TV to watch DVD's! Maybe I can find those seasons on Netflix? :question:
a girl on my board did the in the hospital birth naturally thing. kmaypottery I believe.
sometimes the hospital people suck. But push for what you want. It's your baby and your birth!
DH and I were talking last night, and he asked me what my ideal birth would be. I told him without trepidation, I would LOVE a home waterbirth. Even before we got pregnant, I had read about it here on pg.org and researched them and decided that would be my ideal birthing situation. So he said, "Then we'll make it happen." :shock: I said no way, it would cost us $0 to give birth in a hospital and $2000 to give birth at home! But he said we have money put away, we'll continue to do that so we have a birth fund. So now we're looking for a midwife!! My insurance will cover the birth if it's a Certified Nurse Midwife, but of course, none of those in my area do homebirths - they all work for hospitals. I've heard of some people getting Certified Professional Midwives approved, so I have to call and see what the chances are that they'll do that. But I am pretty sure we'll be paying for this ourselves.
I am so happy! I have always wanted a birth where I could have my baby, wrap him/her up and lay in my own bed. Now I just have to hope and pray that no complications arise and I can give birth under the direction of a midwife!
I felt the baby move today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :jumpingbeans: Actually, I first felt what I thought could be little movements a couple of days ago. They were in my lower abdomen, where the doctor checks for the heartbeat. I had read and heard so much about gas movements being mistaken for baby movements that I didn't want to get too excited. I couldn't help but think though, that they felt VERY different from gas movements I usually have! I noticed that it usually happened when I was sitting down or laying down with my knees bent up. Well, today it happened again, and it was unmistakeable this time! And it's happening a bit more than it was a few days ago. It happened twice today, once when I was sitting with my knees squishing my belly, and once when my cat Lacy stood on my uterus (poor baby!). I am so excited!!!! It felt like a light poke a few centimeters above my pubic bone. Yayyyy!!!!
Awwww, baby is saying Hi to you!!! These are most precious moments!!!!
Congrats on your baby flutters!
I hope your water birth at home becomes reality! It does sound like an ideal birth. I hope you find a midwife who will help you out.
Just so you know, some people on my birth board are spending $700 on a stroller alone for their baby( an awsome stroller, too) so $2000 for the birth of your dreams sounds more worth it!
Thanks, Asha! I had my neighbor, who's a Bradley instructor, email me a list of MW's in the area. So now it's just a matter of interviewing and picking one! I am so excited!!
DH and I had such a great day today! For once, the weather was actually WARM (at the end of April?! Who would've thought!), so we went to this big state park that's about 20 minutes away from our house. It was hot, but we found this cozy little spot by a little lake, laid out a blanket and had a picnic. We also took some pictures for his parents to see, and just for posterity's sake. It was the perfect, relaxing way to spend a Saturday afternoon. Then we came home and took a long nap together! All our fur babies were laying with us, and it was just blissful! I woke up with acid reflux, though! That was the only ding in my day. After that, I was bent over, typing on the computer when I felt the baby move again! It was so cute, just a little poke like last time. As if it were saying, "Hey mom! Don't squish me!" After that we made dinner together and watched Nine Months. I had heard so much about this movie, and neither of us had ever watched it, so we rented it from Netflix. It was okay... I usually like Julianne Moore and Hugh Grant, but this one lacked something. However, it was good for some light-hearted entertainment for the most part. But of course, DH got bored out of his mind and spent the latter half of the night video taping our pets! So all in all, it was an awesome day! I really love summer. I'm a little worried about the baby being born in October. That means no leaving the house for the next 5 months! :? I don't know how I'm going to do with that.
Oh, I almost forgot to mention! My pregnancy journal was picked to be the "community pregnancy journal" for pg.org! I am so honored! If you go to www.pregnancy.org/article.php?sid=3215 you can see the main page, and an introduction to my journal.
Ah, the joys of pregnancy. I woke up this morning with the worst pain in my lower right side. I was laying in bed thinking, "Did my ovarian cyst rupture? Or maybe the baby's in trouble? Is it gas?? Constipation??" Well, I figured it wasn't the latter because I literally could not move! It was a little scary because I didn't know what it was. I knew it came on really suddenly after I twisted around in bed, trying to adjust my position. And that's when I realized - round ligament pain! I looked it up on the internet, and sure enough, that's what it was. I guess it's pretty common in the second trimester, and you're supposed to roll over very gently in bed and not twist at the waist. My goodness, I had no idea it could get that painful! I leaned into my right side and sat on the couch in that position for a while and it went away. I'm going to be a lot more careful from now on! :?
Tomorrow I'm going to call my insurance company and see if there's any chance they'll cover a Certified Professional Midwife. I highly, highly doubt it, but I thought I'd try anyway. The worst they can say is no, right? After that I'm also going to call a midwife my neighbor recommended (she had three babies delivered by this midwife!) and see if she'll come over for a consultation/interview. I'm so excited to get this show on the road!
Sending you some :director:
if they don't pay do what I did. Find a midwife that works with an OB in her clinic.. then ask if they bill through the OB, that way insurance covers it same as ever
and yes that round ligament pain is excruciating. I had it terrible with the twins. Take it easy sweetie.
I LOVED talking to you by the way, I want to come visit bad. I'm going to see if I can borrow mom's car and I'll bring my body shop stuff, and I'll come pamper and spoil you a bit
Thanks for the idea, Nadine! Unfortunately, since DH is in the military, if I use an OB's office it has to be the one on base.
I would LOVE for you to come visit!! Ooh, and the Body Shop always has such yummy stuff!
So as expected, my excellent, forward-thinking insurance company (note the extreme sarcasm here) will not cover a homebirth by a Certified Professional Midwife. And how long did I have to hold to be told this? Oh, about 15 minutes! :evil: Anyway, now that I know, we can just continue forward with our quest for a midwife that we want, as opposed to one that they'll "approve". I called one and left a message - this is the one that I really, really want! If I don't get her, I'll call some others as well.
The round ligament pain is pretty intense if I cough or get up suddenly off the couch. It helps a lot if I hold my lower abdominal area while I do these things - a trick my OB nurse taught me at my very first prenatal visit. I don't care, I can take aches and pains, I just don't want any more morning sickness!!
I am really excited about getting my 20-week ultrasound booked! I can call them once I get to 16 weeks - only about 9 days left! I can't wait to buy this little one some cute clothes! Sometimes I think all this must be happening to someone else. This feeling of unadulterated joy is so different from anything I've ever felt! I've been happy before, but this is so much more. It's like there's this huge miracle going on and I get to be part of it. How amazing is life?
Yesterday was a hectic day! We went out shopping, and by the end of the day I was sooo tired. It's really weird, but I sort of feel like I can't get a deep enough breath, and my legs buckle really easily. I'm wondering if it's an iron shortage. I'll definitely have to talk to my doctor about that.
Anyway, the good news is I got two new bras at Motherhood Maternity! I decided to get fitted, because my 34 C bras were really not fitting well anymore. Plus, they're underwire and I wanted to switch to something not underwire. Well, it turns out I am now a 36 D! :shock: And the lady said once my milk comes in, I'll likely go upto a 36 E! :eek: I had no idea they made E's! So now my breasts are a LOT more comfortable.
In other good news, the midwife that I really, really want called! I wasn't there, but she left a message saying that she wanted to set up a time to come talk with DH and me. So as long as she doesn't have a zillion other people due around the same time as me, and as long as we click, we're definitely going to be using her. I can't wait for her to call back so we can set a date! I am so excited to talk about my birthing options with her!
And of course, today's Wednesday, so....
:party: :clink: 15 WEEK PARTY!!!!! :party: :clink:
So Tim must be enjoying the new and improved (by nature) Sandy :marilyn: !!!!!!
I hope your iron levels are good, when is your next blood test? Just in case the prenatals aren't doing good enough job, try eating some cereal that has a lot of iron!
I hope the midwife you like clicks with you and isn't to busy! GL.
Holly Molly !!! You are already 15 weeks?! :shock: Wow, time's flying!!Congrats!
LOL Asha! He would enjoy my new "assets" if he could! The policy at our house right now is, "Look but don't touch!" My sex drive is gone - if you see it, send it this way, will ya??
I finally made contact with my midwife! She will be coming over for a consultation/interview on May 16th. At that point, we'll decide if we want her to be our midwife. I am pretty sure we will, though. She sounds really nice on the phone! She said there was one other lady who was due a couple of days after me, so we'll talk more about what would happen on the off-chance that we both went into labor at the same time on the same day. I am so excited to meet her!
DH and I went to see Spiderman yesterday. It was okay, I'd give it a 3/5. I definitely liked #2 a lot better! While I was there, I had to pee THREE times during the course of the movie! Also, I took along snacks and drinks (because we all know how over-priced movie theater food is!) and with an hour left to the movie, I had a rumbling stomach! I was ready to leave and come home, I was sooo uncomfortable! My back and legs ached sooo bad, as did my hips. It's funny how much you take your pre-pregnancy body for granted until pregnancy shows you how fortunate you were before!
Second trimester seems to have brought along quite a few new symptoms, such as:
- Back pain
- Hip pain
- Round Ligament Pain
- Fatigue (well, I guess this is carried over from first trimester)
But my favorite new development of all is feeling the baby move! I can't wait until his/her movements are consistent!
On Wednesday, I'm going to call and try to schedule my 20 week ultrasound!! Wish me luck - I'm not sure they'll schedule it 4 weeks in advance, although that's what my doctor said to do!
I am still looking for that sex drive-it hasn't shown up here at all in a while... :question: Maybe Nadine found it and is holding it hostage?
For back pain-splurge on a massage or a chiropractor. The latter one has helped me a lot!
I even made an appointment for my DH on Mon!
Yeah, Nadine, GIVE IT BACK!! I am definitely going to go get a pregnancy massage... I've hinted and hinted to DH, so he better get me one soon!
GRR! I just called to try and schedule our 20 week ultrasound, and the stupid base is booked until June 19th!! I am so mad. There is no way I am going to wait till 22 weeks for my 20 week ultrasound! Anyway, I called my doc and left a consult for her saying we have a trip planned, and can she please refer us to a clinic off base. This is ridiculous. I'll update when I know more (might not be till the end of the week, knowing the base). :evil:
Okay, so they didn't call back today (BIG surprise). If they don't refer us off base, we'll have to keep our June 19th appt. I thought about going to one of those places that check all the different measurements of the baby AND do an u/s, but the ladies on my board said that doctors are a lot more thorough. I am so freaking sad!!! :crybaby: I really, really want to know what I'm having! I want to be able to say he/she instead of "it" all the time! I want to go shopping and be able to call the baby by name! *Sigh* I probably sound like a big whiner, but I really feel like all of the above will help me bond to the baby more. I guess 22 weeks instead of 20 isn't too bad... I just feel like the wait is never-ending. Stupid pregnancy hormones are making me more upset than I should be. Anyway, no point in getting all worked up if they do approve our request. I'm waiting till Friday and then calling them.
How about a 3D ultrasound-just for fun? You can have your 3D one and still keep your June 19 appt. That way you will know, who is inside you and then the doctors can do their measurements later.
Look at me trying to talk you into spending your money, just so we all could find out faster!!! :oops:
I don't think you are unreasonably upset! It sucks to wait two extra weeks! Maybe instead of the massage, you can splurge on the U/S ?
Or...(!!!!) do it when you are visiting your in-laws, so they can be there! Maybe they will offer to pay for it?
(Now I'm plain evil...) :twisted:>>> to you Sandy and -yes-stupid base!! How many pregnant ladies are there in there, anyway?!
YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :jumpingbeans: The base called, and they got me a referral to get my ultrasound done at another hospital off base!!!! I am sooo happy!!!! I have to call them tomorrow or Friday, and book an appointment. YAYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!! No more waiting till the end of June!!!!!!!!!
Asha, you're so cute!!! Thank you for all your suggestions!!! I know, my mind started racing in all those directions too, when I heard about them being backed up!
Oh that's great!!! Let's hope they are not booked up at all and you get the day of your choice!!
Wow, I remember the day you told me you're pregnant! I'm so excited for you two, finding out the sex is magical!
*Drum roll please*....
My level II ultrasound has been scheduled for May 29th at 1 PM!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Sandy!! Oh yay!!!!! Not even a month away, oh gosh how exciting :bighug:
Here's my 16 week picture!
For some reason, I look really puffy! But that's just probably because this baby is making me fat!
I am so contrary... now that we have our ultrasound date scheduled, I'm wondering if we should find out what we're having. I know, I know!! I've been *dying* to find out this whole time and now I'm changing my mind?? I told DH, and he said, "But I want to find outttt!" So this is what we're going to do - we're going to have the ultrasound tech write it down in an envelope. This way, if I don't want to know, DH can read it and not tell me (and I know he'd be good at that!). But if I DO want to know, we can look at it together! And we decided that if baby does not cooperate at this one, we won't be finding out till delivery day. I just got to thinking that maybe once I push the baby out, it would be cool to hear DH say, "It's a boy!" or "It's a girl!" But I also think it would be cool to decide on a name, and go shopping for gender-specific things, and call the baby he or she rather than it. *Sigh* I am so weird!
Hi Chims!!!! I am soooo excited for you - you are so dedicated, and you've lost so much weight already!! I lurk on your journal often, even though I don't post that much!
You are so adorable Sandy, you really are!! I am loving that pregnant belly of your's how cute is that. Isn't it neat to think that inside that belly is an itty bitty baby growing! aahh I love it
I TOTALLY understand being fickle when it comes to finding out the gender, I'm the same way & have been with all of my pregnancies lol I think there are pro's and con's to both sides.
And thanks hun, I am always reading your journal too I love keeping caught up on your pregnancy, it's so exciting!
To all the women out there - mothers, stepmothers, mothers-to-be, and women who want to be mothers - I want to say...
Hope your day is filled with love, sunshine and appreciation!!!!
you look gorgeous!!
Aww, thank you ladies! I cannot believe how big I am! :shock: Every week, DH says, "Wow, you're getting so big! Your belly can't possibly get any bigger!" I feel the same way, but I know once I'm at 40 weeks we'll be looking at my belly going, "Whoaaaa...."
This is what DH got me for Mother's Day:
Aren't they pretty?? We had seen these tulips (they're yellow, but have threads of red running through them) one day while we were out walking through our neighborhood, and I pointed them out to him and told him how much I loved them. Well, he remembered and went and got me the same ones for Mother's Day! We also had some furniture on order at a store that was an hour away. The plan was for me to get off work on Friday, and then he and I would drive to the store together to pick the furniture up. Well, he said he didn't want me to have to do all that right after I got off work. So HE got off work early, drove to the store himself, picked up the furniture and had it all assembled by the time I got home on Friday so I could enjoy it. Isn't he the sweetest?
Tonight (well, last night actually) was our first Bradley class! It was really nice. We live in a really small town, and our neighbor teaches them. We were the only couple, so we got to have it at our house! She came over, and stayed for about 1.5 hours. She talked about herself and then we got to tell her our "story". She has 4 beautiful kids whom we see all the time, since they live directly across the street from us. But I did not realize that she actually had another baby, a daughter, whom she lost at 7 days old to a deadly infection. It was so sad to hear her tell the story. It had been a perfectly healthy pregnancy and really fast labor (2 hours!). Everything was perfect, until the baby contracted this rare strain of a flesh-eating bacteria in her belly button. It's a really fast-moving bacteria, and even though she was in the hospital hooked up to antibiotics, her little body just couldn't fight it hard enough. I swear, while she told this story, I was on the verge of tears. My eyes were brimming, and I was trying so hard not to lose it especially since she seemed so pulled together about it! My respect for her as a mother and a woman increased 100x after I heard about that.
Anyway, our first class was about exercise during pregnancy. She gave us some basic exercises to practice that help build up the Kegel muscles, and stretch out the perineum. And apparently, if you do 40 pelvic rocks before bedtime, it moves the baby off your bladder and you won't have to pee as much during the night! Our second class will be next week, and it's going to be about nutrition. And on Wednesday, we have our first Midwife appt/consult! Yay!!
Today is our first meeting with our midwife, Janice!!!!!! I am so excited!! DH has some big to-do going on at his office today, but he promised me he'll be here on time. He better! :twisted: I'll be sure to update and say how it went.
And, today's Wednesday, so...
:kaos10: 17 WEEK PARTY!!!!!!!! :kaos10:
Last night we met with our MW, Janice, for the first time. I must say, at first I was nervous because she was 20 minutes late showing up. She had told me she had a prenatal appt before then, and gave me an estimate of when she would be there. But still... DH and I were hoping it wasn't a portent of things to come. I called her, and she said she was on her way, the appt had just ended up taking longer than she had initially thought it would.
The good news is that we LOVED her! Both DH and I, which is rare, because DH is very strict like that. She is a very homey person, not too old and not too young. She has been a MW for 17 years. She spent a LOT of time talking with us, and was willing to answer any and all questions that she could. We are definitely going to be going with her, I just have to call her tomorrow and set up my first prenatal appointment. I am really excited to get this underway!
The bad news is that she is considerably more expensive than we had thought. So we talked, and decided that we probably won't be making the trip to see DH's parents in a couple of weeks like we had wanted to. The trip will cost us about $1000 that we don't have to spare right now. Although we didn't go through with the adoption, we still put about $3K into it which means that our savings is looking a little puny right now. Anyway, I think it's sad, but those are just our priorities right now. And plus, they'll be flying up here for Christmas anyway, so we'll see them in a few months' time.
In other pregnancy news, my belly has really popped! It was looking big before, but oh my gosh! It looks enormous now. :shock: And I'm getting a little off balance. It is extremely hard to lift myself off our couch, which is a little low to the ground. DH always laughs at my efforts as I grunt and groan trying to wedge myself out of the seat. I've found that tailor-sitting on the floor really helps! A little tip from our first Bradley class.
I was reading in my email newsletter I get every week that the baby has started reactive listening to things around it already! I thought that was so exciting! So I got two books, "Guess How Much I Love You" and "Love You Forever", and started to read them to it. About halfway through "Love You Forever" it started to kick! It was amazing! And later, I was subbing for some kids and their teacher put on a Barney movie for them to watch during break. The kids were singing some song about outer space, and the baby starts kicking again! Everytime the kids would talk or sing, the baby would kick - I think it liked their voices. It was just so cool to see it react to outside responses. It validated to me what had happened about a week ago. DH and I were in the living room, and it was pretty late at night. We have an alarm on our backdoor that needs to be turned off before the backdoor is opened, or it shrieks really loudly. Well, the dogs needed to go out, and DH went and opened the door but forgot to turn off the alarm. I jumped when it went off, and so did the baby!! I told DH about it, and we were both so excited, but I kind of wondered if the baby did in fact hear it. It seemed like it did, because of the way the movement felt - sudden, as if it had started, rather than just plain movement. And now I know that's exactly what it was! Apparently they start reactive listening at 16 weeks of age, and they start hearing everything at about 20 weeks or so.
:shock: I can not believe your 17wks Sandy, oh that's crazy! lol
I am so glad that your m/w appointent went as well as it did. Having a good relationship with your m/w is so important, I'm really excited for youg uys!
That's interesting about the pelvic exercises right before bed, man I'm going to have to remember that lol
lol I could never get out of our couch while pg wither My birthing/exercise ball become my bestfriend!!! A must have for any pg woman :thumbsup:
That's neat about the baby being able to hear, and how he/she jumped at that noise I LOVE feeling my babies move, it such an amazing experience, I never tire of it.
Seems like you found your midwife!! Congrats!
Too bad you will have to sacrifice the trip to visit your in-laws but it's for a good cause... that way you won't have to search for another midwife and hopefully get the birth you have been wishing for!
Couches are traps for pregnant Mommies! I use my elbows on the arm rest to pry myself up. It sort of works.
That's cute about your baby moving and "interacting" with noises from the outside! There is a little person in there, growing... Movements are dear.Little "hello-s" from the inside...
17 weeks-time is flying!
I went out with my friend yesterday, and we went to this consignment shop that sells baby clothes (and maternity clothes - I got a really cute Motherhood top for $5!). We looked around for gender neutral things (I didn't want yellow or green, I was looking for white) and they were so hard to come by! And while I was there, I REALLY wished I could know which side of the store to shop on - boys or girls. So I think I'm leaning more toward finding out again! 11 more days - I can't believe it! A week from Tuesday, we'll know what we're having (hopefully, if the baby cooperates and I don't change my mind again)! I am so excited!!
I hope you find out- for selfish reasons...
I think people who don't find out by choice are super human!
Ugh, I am in a really horrible mood. Everything and everyone is pissing me off. I had to tell DH to leave the room because he was irritating me, just sitting there reading his book. :oops: I just knew if he stayed that I would start yapping at him, so I told him to go to bed (since he was just waiting for me anyway). *Sigh* I am tired of being so hormonal! I feel like I'm on the war path all the time. Here are the things that are currently making me livid:
1. DH talked to his parents about the homebirth, and his mom is doing her freak out thing. She said a "MW is not a doctor" (ya think?) and therefore is not good enough. Apparently, they are "scared" for us. :roll: DH told them to do their research, and then call us with their *informed* concerns.
2. I called my MW on Thursday morning and she has not called me back. I hate when people are not punctual. Just like how she was late to our consultation.
3. My two cats keep fighting, and it's getting on my nerves.
4. I am really uncomfortable - everything hurts and I'm starving but nothing looks good.
There. I feel a smidge better.
Hugs, just hugs sweetie... Who knew carrying a new life could turn you into this emotional wreck, huh? It is normal though... :huggles:
Hi Sandy! Doesn't make it better but your hormones are totally normal. (When I was preggo the happy girl that sat next to me at work would always greet me with a big "GOOD MORNING, HOW ARE YOU????" and I got so annoyed with her daily greeting I bought a HUGE plant in a pot and stuck in on the end of my desk to visually separate our cubicles and then pretended not to hear her!!!!!!)
There's nothing more you could have done besides just telling your DH the truth like you did that his reading was annoying and to go on to bed. He sounds like such a kind person and I know he sees it for what it is and realizes you are just having some pregnancy hormones.
I'm so glad you found your MW also! She sounds really wonderful!