New crib safety guidelines

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New crib safety guidelines

I saw this article on my news feed on Facebook and I thought I would share it.
http://www.parents.com/blogs/parents-news-now/2011/06/27/safety/new-crib-safety-guidelines-what-parents-need-to-know/

We had a drop-side crib but it was recalled a few years ago. The one we just bought meets the new standards.

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TFS!

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TFS! I had to send that to my MIL. I don't think the crib at her house meets these standards.

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Thanks for sharing.. I am soo glad they finally put a ban on all drop down side cribs.

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I'm not trying to argue and I completely see how these new standards can be beneficial, but this is getting a little stupid. I just purchased my crib and now a few weeks later they are telling me I can't use it. I grew up w a dropside as well as everyone else I know. We are all fine. Because of 150 parents who most likely were not vigulent of their kids.in the 1st place I'm supposed to have to keep spending money on new cribs, money I don't have. Sorry I love my crib and I'm keeping it. I will just be very careful at making sure it is locked upright. Sometimes I think the government just goes overboard. I've got a bad back and when Jayden gets big enough I'm gonna need that drop side.

I hope I didn't make anyone mad or upset. it just frustrated me that in the 7 months I've been pregnant they've changed the standards twice.

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I can certainly understand why this is frustrating, especially from a financial point of view. If the crib you bought recently now doesn't meet the standards, doesn't the store or manufacturer have to refund your money?

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They've actually been saying no drop sides for at least a year. I know they have said the drop sides were unsafe right before or right after my DS1 was born but legally it goes into effect next month. With DS we thought he was the last so we didn't see the point in getting a new crib, this one we had to get a new one anyways because I'm not ready to move DS out of his. DS is still in his drop side and I'm not that worried about it, we've had it for 7 years and it's very sturdy and has never had any issues whatsoever. If this baby does outgrow the mini crib he'll go into the same crib. It's not like we can sell it anyways so we'll just keep it around until we don't have kids in cribs anymore and then throw it away.
Did you buy yours from a store though? I thought most stores stopped selling them already, I haven't seen any for a while. It might be worth going and asking about exchanging it since it hasn't been that long since you bought it and it has yet to be used.

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"cherylfhorn" wrote:

I'm not trying to argue and I completely see how these new standards can be beneficial, but this is getting a little stupid. I just purchased my crib and now a few weeks later they are telling me I can't use it. I grew up w a dropside as well as everyone else I know. We are all fine. Because of 150 parents who most likely were not vigulent of their kids.in the 1st place I'm supposed to have to keep spending money on new cribs, money I don't have. Sorry I love my crib and I'm keeping it. I will just be very careful at making sure it is locked upright. Sometimes I think the government just goes overboard. I've got a bad back and when Jayden gets big enough I'm gonna need that drop side.

I hope I didn't make anyone mad or upset. it just frustrated me that in the 7 months I've been pregnant they've changed the standards twice.

Cheryl- I grew up with a dropside crib as well and purchased a dropside crib for DS, but it was recalled about a year after we had already used it and had to find a new crib for DS. I think the main problem is that the cribs made today are made with plastic parts that the drop side slides on and can break, the crib that was used for me as well as my older sister and younger brother had metal parts for the dropside.
I will say it was very frustrating to have to find a new crib for DS after he was already in it for a year. Plus we really liked our old crib, but wasn't willing to risk his safety just to keep the recalled crib.

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"cherylfhorn" wrote:

I'm not trying to argue and I completely see how these new standards can be beneficial, but this is getting a little stupid. I just purchased my crib and now a few weeks later they are telling me I can't use it. I grew up w a dropside as well as everyone else I know. We are all fine. Because of 150 parents who most likely were not vigulent of their kids.in the 1st place I'm supposed to have to keep spending money on new cribs, money I don't have. Sorry I love my crib and I'm keeping it. I will just be very careful at making sure it is locked upright. Sometimes I think the government just goes overboard. I've got a bad back and when Jayden gets big enough I'm gonna need that drop side.

I hope I didn't make anyone mad or upset. it just frustrated me that in the 7 months I've been pregnant they've changed the standards twice.

I actually think the same as you. The crib that Hailey is in, has been used since my oldest was born, and he's going to be 11 this year! It's a double dropside and I find it to be the best thing ever. I too don't agree with ANY of the standards they've come out with. When the Health Nurse came for the first visit after we had her, she asked to see the crib. She never said anything about it being drop side, just the mattress should be at the LOWEST setting. Uh, no I don't think so lady. That mattress is staying right where it is. Even with the drop side lowered, had I moved the mattress down, there would be no way I could have put her in there without, figuritively speaking, dropping her in it. I'm only 5'4" and it's a long ways down to the very bottom setting. Drop sides have been banned here in Canada since last year so you can't even buy them anymore. We did buy a used crib that was pretty much brand new off someone, and it too, is a drop side. We did order the clips to make it stationary just in case she complained, but never put them on, and I will not be putting them on the new crib, either. If I did what the new standards are and heaven forbid I had to have a c-section, there's no way in hell I would be able to put the baby in or take her out of the crib with bending over the bar and putting myself through more pain.

I do think that most of these 'accidents' are definately parental error. Not putting the crib together correctly, checking pieces, replacing them when broke etc. As I said, not a single piece on my crib has been replaced, it's still in excellent condition and is over 11 years old *it was used by someone else briefly before we got it*. The pieces on it are all plastic, as well. I appreciate standards being looked over etc, and I do appreciate some things being slightly changed for safety, however if it was the way the cribs were made, don't you think there would have been alot more of these incidents? They're all made similar. I do feel bad that so many infants have either suffered severe injuries or deaths, but I do agree with the governmments going slightly overboard on things.

****These are just my views and are not intended in any way to start a debate, fight, hurt feelings etc. Obviously as a parent we all do what we feel is best for ourselves and our kids. If we find anything that seems *not right* we look into it asap and do what's needed to make things right again, not just for cribs but for everything. Please do not take my views as an attack, we all like to see our babies safe, but sometimes not following a certain standard, but taking all other safety precautions is what's best for us as parents as well.****

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This is a hot topic, I think. While it may be user error (applying wrong kind of pressure when lifting or lowering, installing incorrectly, not checking hardware), I can also see how a cheap plastic piece could give way over time. There are many kinds of drop sides that have not broken, but is that parental error or the manufacturer of the ones that do give using cheap plastic? I've certainly learned while being married to dh that there are different degrees of plastic, metal, etc. and they don't all hold up to the same level.

I'm just throwing in two cents b/c it may not be correct to assume it is parental error.

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Like I said before. I came across relevant information to the women on this board and I shared it. What you do with that information is up to you. I just want to caution you to keep the discussion as calm as possible as these types of situations can get out of hand quickly.

Joni made an excellent point though. We can't just assume it's human error, the crib industry has admitted that the parts they were using were not up to par and that their crib standards are too weak.

“We’ve seen a number of tragedies because we had such a weak crib standard,’’ commission chairman Inez Tenenbaum said yesterday as the agency voted 5-0 to approve a notice of proposed rulemaking. The agency was following a mandate from Congress, she said.
Drop-side cribs have been popular because one side can be raised or lowered on tracks, providing parents with easier access to the bed. Infants can suffocate or be strangled when the hardware fails and a side detaches, creating a gap

I agree there have been a ridiculous amount of recalls in the last few years however, I don't blame the government solely. I think there are two main reasons why the number of recalls in recent years has been so great. 1) They just don't make things like they used to. Companies aren't about quality anymore, they are about making a product for the cheapest price possible. 2)People are sue-happy and will sue over every little thing.

Some recalls I think are ridiculous. For example, when there was that recall on Bumbos because parents were putting them on top of counters or tables and then leaving baby unattended. They recalled them so they could put a warning on the box. That one was silly.

Then there are other recalls like unsafe toys (with lead for example) that are more legit.

It's up to us as parents to make the decisions we feel are best for our families with the information that we are given.

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When these stories first hit the news, they were parental error in assembling the crib. I don't know if they all were though. I can totally see it because the instructions for our crib were horrible and obviously written by someone in another language who had never assembled anything and didn't know what parts were going to be provided. When we were assembling it, DH joked that the quality of instructions were grounds for a lawsuit. He has skill in assembling things and knew what things were wrong and how they should go.

Lots of things that get banned are actually parental error. In Canada (not sure about US) you can't buy cold medicine for young children because parents weren't following the measurements and were causing OD's in their kids.

I think as parents, we all have to make judgements about things for our kids and the safety of certain things. Bumpers, cosleeping, blankets in the crib, vaccinations....

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Oh... I'm not saying it's all stupid or anything, however there's been recalls on some of the cribs where they've showed re-inactment pictures as to what happened, and you could clearly see that the crib wasn't put together properly. Some people put the rails on upside down, the clips on the wrong way, etc. I'm also not saying anything against those who think drop sides are stupid, those who use them are stupid etc - we're all free to have our thoughts and opinions. Some of it is manufactures error, other parents, and in some cases, it could be both at the same time. Not all recalls are terrible, however, they issued clips for free to make our cribs stationairy, it should have been left as such and therefore, if a parent continued to do so and injury occured then it would definately be on the parent for making that choice, kwim? But things like that some people simply need for various reason.

There are many many hot topics that are way worse than this to come. When you start solids, when LO's start drinking milk, cloth vs. sposies etc etc. My first BB was horrible and it seemed every other day someone was starting a fight and putting down someone because they sposie used, didn't bf etc. My 2nd BB, where I'm a mod there, we have not had a single fight where anyone was hurt and upset. We had the occasional hot topic but it was kept friendly and everyone was good about it. I"m hoping this board goes the same way. Smile

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"Danifo" wrote:

When these stories first hit the news, they were parental error in assembling the crib. I don't know if they all were though. I can totally see it because the instructions for our crib were horrible and obviously written by someone in another language who had never assembled anything and didn't know what parts were going to be provided. When we were assembling it, DH joked that the quality of instructions were grounds for a lawsuit. He has skill in assembling things and knew what things were wrong and how they should go.

Lots of things that get banned are actually parental error. In Canada (not sure about US) you can't buy cold medicine for young children because parents weren't following the measurements and were causing OD's in their kids.

I think as parents, we all have to make judgements about things for our kids and the safety of certain things. Bumpers, cosleeping, blankets in the crib, vaccinations....

That was the most ANNOYING thing ever for my house. When Heather was 6 months old she had a cold where we getting pics done and nothing else I tried would help clear her up. I went into the drug store and explained and asked what they could recommend. They gave me some childrens dimatab I think it was, said how much to safely give, and after a few doses she was feeling better and cleared up. A couple years ago out came the recall, so now the only infant stuff we can buy is the pain reliever. The recall was kind of good though in a way, because our local grocery store had pulled ALL the cold medicine off the shelves, that all had long expiry dates, and were all on for half price. Well, of course, Heather was older then, and having 2 other kids that could use it, we stock piled it! I have a couple times given Hailey a dose or 2 of cold meds because trying everything else before that, including the saline water just wasn't helping and she was so miserable.

Alot of the actual known parental errors effects everyone else, because those of us that do follow instructions carefuly etc, have to pay for the stupidity of others, and obviously OD'ing your kids classes you as stupid imo.

Bumper pads are also banned here as well. Some do still use them, especially if they opt to not have the health nurse come in. The first visit she checks LO, asks you a million questions, some of which are stupid, then asks to check the crib. You can decline the crib check, but some of them are really pushy and snotty about it so we just say yeah I suppose go ahead lol. We're also not 'supposed' to have blankets, toys, NOTHING in the crib - just the baby. I too have always not followed that. I have the odd teddy in the crib far enough away from them, but in a way that they can look at it. Blankets I'm forever checking on them to make sure they aren't pulled above their heads etc. It's true though, we do need to make our own choices/decisions for what's right for our families. In some cases, I think it's wrong that the government etc is making it for us. I guess that's what I was trying to say in my previous post lol. Today's a tired day and I'm not thinking straight.

Either way, I hope nothing I've said has offended and I hope that this doesn't get too out of hand. We're all smart mommies and will do what's best for us despite what else is going on in the world :). :openarms:

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I would be curious to know if there is a difference between happened in Canada and the U.S. Everything I've read about the U.S. ban has stated that the cribs have faulty pieces that can break off. I'm sure parental error plays a part but most of what I've read has pointed to faulty parts as the main culprit. I'm sure it's a combination of both.

Kristina I totally agree with you on the birth boards. My other birth board has been a breeze to moderate...maybe one or two squabbles in the the last four/five years we've been together. Other boards have not been so lucky...I've seen some nasty fights go down on this site over the last few years. I'm hoping beyond hope that we have one of the more peaceful boards. Even with hot topics there's a way to discuss and debate without fighting...it's all about your delivery. I think we have a great group of ladies though, so I'm not too worried. Smile

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I don't think there's any difference between what happened, though I'm going to assume that the US is just now putting the ban into place on drop sides? Ours has been in place since last year since the first recalls. Cribs were recalled and were stopped being made, but for those who had a crib with drop sides could call the company and get the clips to put on to make the drop side stationary for free.

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Definitely not upset about it either way here. If I were to buy a new crib right now (like the one we just bought) I'd make sure it were up to safety standards but I really don't think my DS1 is unsafe in his crib either. The company itself said it was okay to keep using after the new hardware was installed though I didn't install it, the only thing it did was disable the drop down feature, I don't feel it made the crib any more stable and believe me when it was first recalled I went into his room and shook his crib as hard as I could from every angle.

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I'm.sorry if I started anything bad on here didn't mean to do that. I am of course going to order the parts to make sure he is secure and safe. I've just been reading so much lately about how you cant do this or.that anymore. As others have said we all have to make decisions what is right for our child. My only goal and I know the goal of everyone on here is to keep their kids as safe as possible and raise them to be good members of society.

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*Lurker*

They've stopped selling drop down cribs for about a year now at any of the stores around me, but what really upsets me is if they are banning these then why don't they ban crib bumpers too which is responsible for many deaths each year. My 6 month old niece was suffocated by her crib bumper and I never knew they were potentially dangerous until then and now I have read so many articles on the dangers of them.

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Well, I suppose I need to add my two cents!

First of all, I don't believe in the government butting into issues such as these. I'm pretty sure they have bigger issues they should be dealing with and not baby cribs. They are the government, not parental figures for us to "obey"....

Second of all, even if drop side cribs were never an issue, I would never purchase one. My little guy is like HERCULES.... and if there was a way for him to tear something apart, he'd do it. Plastic isn't holding him back!
Third, I am short enough (5'4), and I struggle with putting him in with the mattress on the lowest setting. Enough that a drop side crib would be very beneficial to me - but instead I choose to just have a step stool to get him in and out coz bending over against my preggo tummy hurts!

Just my random thoughts.... Wink