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    Hi Ladies, Well I am surrpised to be able to say I got a very faint double line this morning! I am 12 DPO. (so a DD around September 22nd) I have been a FAM user for the last 9 years. I have been around pregnancy.org for many many years. I have always felt like there was one more baby out there for me but the twins and a 19month old was VERY challenging for me and my husband. But after years of discerning we decided to see if it was meant to be for a few cycles so here we are, expecting #4. I am really hoping it's a singleton pregnancy and not twins again. I look forward to getting to know you all more!
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    Hi and welcome! I'm 12 DPO too! I had a light BFP yesterday at 11 DPO and a nice strong one this morning. If you go by last period I'm due Sept 21 but by O day it is Sept 22. I see that you homebirth! That is awesome! I wish I could. DD was breach and ended up with a c-section. I'm really hoping to go VBAC this time. Anyway, wished you a HH9M and looking forward to getting to know you.
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    Congratulations! I hope you have a HH9M!

    Carolyn, I had a breech c-sec with DS1, VBAC with DS2, so would be happy to share the experience if you want to hear about it.

    Erika, I may consider home birth this time, so I'd love to hear how that's been for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajmsMommy View Post

    Carolyn, I had a breech c-sec with DS1, VBAC with DS2, so would be happy to share the experience if you want to hear about it.

    Erika, I may consider home birth this time, so I'd love to hear how that's been for you.
    Veronica-I would love to hear your story! I really like my doctor, she's very into letting things happen naturally and we tried everything to get DD to turn. I'm really hoping she'll be supportive of me going VBAC as long as this one doesn't end up breach as well. I don't see why not.
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    Congrats and HH9M to you, too! Sometimes I think it would be nice having 2 sets of twins in the long run... Then sometimes I just worry about all of the stress and sleepless nights while having toddlers. I'm hoping for you to have a singleton too since it's what you'd like. At least your girls are a little older and can help out more though if it's another set of twins.
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    Thanks ladies, I think this is the warmest reception I've ever gotten in a DD club.

    Veronica, I love my homebirths. Before getting pregnant with my first I was the typical American married, college degree, American. I didn't even know what a midwife was. A secretary stopped me one day and asked if we were going to start a family and then asked if I'd use a midwife or an OB. and I said "A mid what?" Being a reader and research type I began reading and devoured more than 70 birth books before becoming pregnant. I read the book Giving Birth: A journey into Mother's and midwives by Catherine Taylor as my first book and when I found out I didn't HAVE to be in a hospital I was sold on the idea of a birth center. As I read I kept a log of every title and gave each a grade. Anyways I didn't know you didn't have to lye on your back, I didn't know you don't HAVE to have an IV, ect and the more I learned about the body, the process, the history of how these interventions came to be, the less sense it made to me for a low risk pregnancy. 9 months later we started TTC and concieved on our first cycle. I had digested over 13 birth books at that time and started reading on all other kinds of things. So we planned a birth center birth, with the justification you hear so often "Well this is my first and I'm not sure if a homebirth is right for us" but then when I took Dh to tour the birth center and it looks JUST like our house. and when I realized I'd have all the same supplies and equirment at home spending the extra money on the birth center made no sense. So we had our first at home and it was a GORGEOUS experience. (my story is posted somewhere in the birth anturally board from 7 years ago (Home Waterbirth of Olivia May 2005). Then we became pregnant when O. ws just 10 months. I called my midwife and even said to her "gee I'm so bored I have nothing to read" Then we went for a 20 weeks ultrasound (because I made a stupid bet with my husband) and SURPRISE it was twins. It was a long and hard fight from there out. i interviewed 15 OB or OB/MW hospital groups. All them had no nutritional reccomendations beyond "Well you could eat a little more" (which astonished me) and then all the "rules" Birth in the OR, birth on an OR table, mandatory IV, mandatory continual fetal monitoring, mandatory epidural (of course that was BS they can't forse anyone to have meds) but the list was long and on going. Nobody had faith in me or my intuition. We switch to one OB/MW team who was the best of the evils. But then they wanted weelky Ultrasounds (no - there is no indication, no growth discordance, no fluid issues, nothing abnormal) then it was gloom and doom over the GD numbers, theyw ere clearly predicting the worst - I came back a 43 ...YES a 43 I ran Hpoglycemic, so much for "you should expect problems" That day we left the office and I look at my husband and said "I'm not going back -they don't believe in me. Their big goal is 25 weeks and i AM going full term, they will always trust a machine over my intuition." He was pannicked but her understood. At that appointment the doc and midwife were both there with their gloom and doom predictions and she patted us each on the knee and said "oh honey....you just need to leave everything up to the experts" So my homebirth MW with my first did my prenatals for awhile and I eventually found a traveling midwife who had a lot of twin homebirth experience. I found two other people to attend the birth. I ate 147 grams of protein PER DAY following all the research of Dr. Barbara Luke (She studied carrying multiple to term at the University of Michigan and prevention of prematurity through nutrition). My head midwife flew in when I was 37 weeks. I carried to 39 weeks and the babies were born at home 7lbs 6oz and 7lbs 4oz. It was a much more challenging labor than my first birth, but I woldn't trade it for anything.

    For Vbac's I would strongly reccomend you look into ICAN The International Cesarean Awareness Network. They have great resources for prevention and supporting VBAC's (And Hbac's) I met someone from our local chapter when I was pregnant with my first and the knowledge they shared with me saved me from a c-section. I am quite certain my first birth probably would have been a c-section if I had been at the hospital. If you birth at a hospital GET A DOULA. You need an advocate for you and YOUR plans - the doctors and midwives at hospitals aren't there through msot of the birth and you need help from the minute you walk through the door. Also check out the web page www.spinningbabies.com They talk about opimal fetal positioning. Many c-sections are a result of mal positioning and when you heap a bunch of interventions (inductions, AROM, PIT, Epidurals, on your back ect.) on a baby that is needing more time and space to negotiate the labor it spells desaster with a practioner that is going to put you "on the clock"

    As a doula for the last 6 years I have seen many instances where doing "something" is needed and every intervention has it's time and place. But as a whole many are overused and absued. I don't think EVERY birth should be a homebirth. But I do think most people have NO IDEA what ahomebirth really looks like. We tend to envision a hospital birth at home.....and that is really not an accurate depiction at all.

    I look forward to supporting you through your VBAC!

    Homebirthing, breastfeeding, sling wearing, cloth diapering momma to 3 girls ages 7 and 6 year old twins and peanut #4 due sometime in late September

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    Wow! That is all. loved reading this!
    ~Carolyn
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    Congratulations and welcome to September! What an amazing story. I think it is wonderful that you were so educated and stood up for yourself. I am looking forward to learning a lot from you !
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    Quote Originally Posted by cash's mommy View Post
    Congratulations and welcome to September! What an amazing story. I think it is wonderful that you were so educated and stood up for yourself. I am looking forward to learning a lot from you !
    Me, too!

    I find I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum when it comes to reading and research, and tend to address things as they happen. I had always thought a homebirth would be neat but felt like I wanted my first to be in a hospital. DS was still breech at 38 weeks and the policy at the time was c-section. I went for an ECV, which failed, since he was so far engaged already (wow, those ladies tried hard...a story for another time...). At first they told me they'd schedule the c-section for the following week, but my Dr. had had some concern that DS hadn't grown much in the last month, so they ended up delivering him that day. It was kind of neat, because I still got to call DH with the news that the baby was coming. My experience with a c-section was entirely positive, and I don't regret it at all. DS ended up being 5lbs, 15 oz. Our province has since changed their policy and allows a trial of labour with breech position.

    When I got pg with DS2, I used the same Dr, and she pretty much assumed I'd be going for VBAC instead of an elective c-section, so I knew I had her support. It turns out on the day I delivered, my son got pneumonia, so we happened to be at the hospital with him when I went into labour. The first 'real' contraction was at 4pm, and by the time we got through getting his chest x-rays and seeing the Dr again, I walked down to the L&D area and checked in by around 6:30. At first they said I could leave for a while if I wanted to, but gave me the option of staying, which I took since we were traveling by bus and were about an hour from home. We called a friend to come pick up DS (my mom was planning to take him, but wasn't going to arrive for another couple hours), and DH went with them to the pharmacy to get medicine for DS and get himself something to eat. He ended up getting back just as I started pushing. By the time I got from triage into a delivery room I was having very intense contractions. They insisted on continual monitoring, and I felt comfortable sitting on a ball the whole time. At some point my mom arrived and massaged my back. They did put in an IV just in case, but didn't end up using it at all. I didn't want an epidural or any other 'serious' pain relief, but did use gas for about an hour right before pushing. When things were getting really intense I started wondering if maybe I did want something stronger, but right then my water broke and the nurse checked me and said I was ready to push. DS2 was born 1/2 an hour later at 9:55 at 8lbs, 11 oz. Prior to going into labour, I thought I'd be in the bath a lot, or walking around, but at the time I didn't want that at all, so I was perfectly happy being on my ball and being monitored. Maybe that would have been different if labour had lasted longer or not gotten so intense so fast, but again, I have no regrets.
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    Erika, that is an amazing story. My sister did an induced home birth in South Africa for my niece (her 2nd) and it went fantastically. I wasn't present because I'm not a good bystander - I kept my nephew (16 months at the time) out of the way.

    I will definately be reading those books you listed. I'm very keen to do a squatting delivery. It just makes more sense to me.
    ~Roxi~

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