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    I have finaly collected all the looms in the knifty knitter set and the new knifty knitter book that just came out!!! I am excited to make some cute stuff.

    Now I know some of you sew or knit and then sell your items inorder to do this I have to us my own patterns correct. I mean I can lean the bases from the books and then add or subtract parts to make them my own. Are they sell legal then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mujul79 View Post
    I have finaly collected all the looms in the knifty knitter set and the new knifty knitter book that just came out!!! I am excited to make some cute stuff.

    Now I know some of you sew or knit and then sell your items inorder to do this I have to us my own patterns correct. I mean I can lean the bases from the books and then add or subtract parts to make them my own. Are they sell legal then?
    Yes, you have to use your own patterns if there is a copyright on the patterns that you have purchased...and I have never seen one that wasn't copyrighted.

    As for slightly changing a copyrighted pattern, thats a very gray area, as there is no defined percentages of how much needs to be changed, or what exactly counts a s achange. For example adding color work but not changing the structure would be highly questionable.

    However......all that being said, a couple of things about copyrights on patterns. Copyrights are meant to protect the little people disinging the patterns form being left out of big deals....for example, to keep Gap Inc. from stealing a design without compensating the designer. Designers aren't particularly worried about you or me, lets just say. I believe someone once told me that no one has ever been charged in a case of copyright infringement for this kind of thing (selling on a small scale). Now I am not telling you that its legal or ok to do, of course Its definitely not my place to do that.

    ANd of course there is this whole other gray area that revolves around knitting. I mean so many designs that are copyrighted or ultra basic, classic, or have been around for years and years, passed on by grandmothers to their grand-daughters. How can one truly tell with so many patterns if one has actually stolen it or not? I mean there are only so many ways to make a striped baby afghan if you know what i mean

    And then of course there is the whole controversy on it anyway....i mean sewing patterns and hte liek all have this problem...but recipes from a cookbook don't, why is the line drawn where it is?

    Anyway...so thats my 2cents on the topic. I won't suggest that its legal or ok to sell products based on copyrighted patterns, but I think you can get a feeling of how I feel on the whole topic here.
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    I specifically buy patterns that say it's okay to sell items on a small scale, but not manufacture them in mass.

    As Kim said, it's hard to enforce, but if someone wanted to, they could try. I know that one of the patterns I have for personal use she is vigilent about enforcing it. I wouldn't risk that pattern, but others, maybe. Especially if I were selling them to family and friends, and not via Etsy or HC
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    I am thinking of using the book to learn how many rows (for a size, and on what loom) and diffrent stitch types, not just the copy a pattern and change colors. But with loom knitting it is hard how many diffrent types of hats/earwarmers can you make. I mean you can change the stitch type but the thing is still a tube.

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    Just adding I just got the same looms. I love them. They are so fun to create things.

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