Mel asked me to thank you all and she will pop over today to read what you have said.
Hopefully shee will join too.
I really appreciate all your help and offers of support.
I know she does too.
You are awesome.
I agree with everything that has been posted. You can do things to boost your "fluff" of your lining. It is likely her PCOS issues could be creating her lining issues. Also, while I am certainly not a medical professional qualified to provide any real medical advice, it is important to remember that PCOS creates issues with ovulation. If you do not ovulate, you will have irregular and long cycles. You may have light bleeding that seems like periods, but really it is not because you cannot have a true period unless you ovulate...mostly because your whole cycle is dictated by your ovaries and hormones, which when you suffer with PCOS, your ovaries are somewhat compromised and are not doing what they need to do to make sure your hormones are functioning correctly. Plus, the cysts create other issue as well. So, it is important for your friend to consider what the side effects of PCOS really are and how that relates to her ability to conceive. I highly recommend the book, "The Infertility Cure." It really does have some good holistic/natural/herbal suggestions for PCOS, including cutting out refined carbs and sugars, which are implicated in making PCOS worse.
That's aigret response thank you.
She is due a hsg. I think she had to call today about it.
Would an hsg be able to tell anything about pcos.
She's not sure she does have issues with lining won't know until tests are done... Think she was describing her cycles etc to the herbalist and he saud what he said.
I winder if the pcos has got a bit worse as when she was diagnosed it was very mild.
She sends her thanks.
Thinks you all sound great.
Girl power she says.
But not sure if she will join as she only uses computer at work and this dire isn't one she could sneak on really.
Hoping I can change her mind or at least link her on Facebook to some of you.
Just to add my own two cents--I call BS just like the others. I was in a situation very similar to hers--PCOS, long, irregular cycles and virtually no period, which started around a year and a half ago. Yes, it was a lining issue, but it was actually a secondary problem. After talking to an RE, he explained that the lining had everything to do with the quality of the egg I was producing, which appeared to be compromised by low estrogen. He said that it looked like my PCOS had stepped it up a few notches, and my hormones were even more out of whack than usual.
Injectables are what helped me--at the time of my BFP, my lining was 11 mm!
I'm Liz's friend who she posted the query about. Thank you all so much for all your support and advice.
To be honest, I'm so confused about the whole thing at the moment that I feel like I'm going round in circles. I took the decision at the beginning of the year that I was going to try every option open to me so that I didn't feel like I had missed out on the chance of anything working. With that in mind I'm currently trying acupuncture, herbalism and homeopathy as well as conventional medicine. I'm also trying to exercise and eat properly (the exercise is going well, the eating isn't!).
As well as the PCOS I've also got Type 1 diabetes which I've had for 23 years and which obviously doesn't help matters. Having said that though, all the hormone tests that I've had done have always come back within the "normal" range although I do have several of the typical PCOS symptoms. I conceived my son (now 3 and a half) the moment that we started trying and my second pregnancy was conceived within a couple of months as well (sadly that was the one that I lost). It just seems weird that now it all seems to have stopped. My periods have always been very irregular and, as Liz mentioned, have been incredibly light since the d and c which worries me. Since the miscarriage we've been trying for about 8 months now with no success at all and I'm just trying to determine whether it's just "one of those things" (as a lot of people keep telling me) or whether there is actually something wrong. I'm on the waiting list for an HSG (which I'm a bit nervous about) which may be happening in a few days time or which I may have to wait longer for, I should know tomorrow. If that comes back all clear then I will start taking Clomid and see if that helps. So far I haven't been able to have any Day 21 blood tests to determine ovulation as I haven't been able to determine when exactly Day 21 is! Day 5 blood tests all came back fine as did my husband's sperm test. Diabetes management isn't too bad although I would like it to be better (although that's always the case). My age is a concern - I'm 40 this year.
Can't think of anything else to tell you really other than that I will take your advice with the raspberry leaf tea. I guess I need to ask my consultant about the oestrogen before ovulation? Silly question but, if this helps to thicken the lining, does this show in heavier periods? What tests have you all had to do to show the thickness of the lining? If my periods are light, does this automatically indicate fertility issues?
Margaret - I was really interested in your post as, not only did you mention PCOS but you had a Diabetes link on your signature as well.
Hope I haven't rambled on but thank you again for your support. Liz speaks to highly of you all and I think that it's a great network that you have.
Fab to see you joined sweets.
Pretty sure the ladies will be even mire help.
Just don't make me redundant from my ask dr Liz texts. Lol
Let me know about the hsg.
I can take you if I am nit working f or look after L again if I am not working.
Hi Mel! It is nice to see you! I want to specify that I am not a doctor and cannot really give actual medical advice, but I am going to provide what knowlede I do have after struggling with infertility for 3 years and working hard to figure out my issues.
I think it is important to see if you can somehow get blood work done right before ovulation and again about 7 days after ovulation. Day 21 tests really won't show anything if you ovulated earlier or later than day 14. Most OBs pick day 21 because on average most women ovulate on day 14 and you can get a good progesterone reading by day 21. However, many of us are not average and it is important to get an O2 reading right before you O...during your surge...and again 7 days after O to get that progesterone. It is hard to figure that out. My RE made me track everything with ovulation prediction kits. If you are not producing enough estrogen, you will not have a thick lining or a good quality egg. As a matter of fact, without enough estrogen, you may not even ovulate regularly. Hormones dictate your fertility. My hormones are really out of sync, and my RE said that clomid would not help with that issue. So, we went straight to injections of FSH. And to answer your question, if you have a thicker lining, you will have heavier periods.
The HSG is going to tell you if your fallopian tubes are open and working. While it can be a worthwhile test if your tubes are not proven, you have had two pregnancies and one live birth. My thought is that your tubes are fine. When I was in the heat of infertility craziness, I felt like I should rule it out. However, it was grand waste of of money. My tubes were just fine.
We were finally able to conceive after I cut out all refined sugar and flour, took several herbs and supplements, and used FSH injections to help get my hormones in the correct place. It took some trial and error. If you are not with an RE, I recommend looking for one. They will be able to help you formulate a good treatment plan.
Also, with my miscarriage, we conceived on the first cycle of TTC. I never would have guessed that I had fertility issues. My RE was very clear that he believed that it was my fertility issues that caused the miscarriage. I did not have good quality eggs because I was not producing enough estrogen and the egg probably did not implant well. In addition, all the hormones dictate the levels in each other. Low estrogen will mean low progesterone because you are not producing good follicles. The follicles produce the progesterone until implantation is fully complete. So, even if I did conceive, I did not have anough progesterone production to sustain a pregnancy.
So, there is some of what I know based on my experience. Fertility issues and navigating the world of fertility treatment can be very overwhelming. I will hope that you can figure everything out and quickly conceive.
I don't have a lot of time to post right now...off to work in a few minutes but I will tell you a few things that I know.
I was diagnosed with PCOS at 16, I am now 42. I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes at 31. It took 5 years to conceive our son - I got my positive the day before my appointment for fertility drugs. It took another 5 years to conceive Bailey who I lost last year at 11 weeks. Since that time my periods have been super heavy - never had them this heavy in my life.
I found that with my hsg (done at the same time as endometriosis surgery) that I was pregnant within a month. My doctor said that is quite normal. Chances are that your tubes are clear - mine were, but the extra flush was great for getting things going.
You mentioned you have several of the PCOS symptoms - what are they? That might help in knowing what is going on with your body.
Welcome to our group. We hope you get pregnant soon.