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    Kadibug, we didn't exactly talk about FET, but I'll tell you what he did say. I expressed my fears of IVF, of what to do with leftover embryos, and multiples, and the doctor said we'd fertilize 3 eggs, put them in one by one, and freeze the rest of the eggs. So he seemed to think I'd have decent response, I guess.

    If the doctor really fears you will not have a good response, would he (and you) consider doing IVF sooner rather than later? Maybe you'd have more embryos to store then. Just a question to ask your doctor.

    Sorry you are having to make these decisions. It isn't fair, and 30 is not late to start trying, not in my circles anyway!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kadibug View Post
    i do want to know if you have had any m/c before your ds. also, did you have any with defects?
    I am blessed to have been spared any m/c at this point, but there's another poster with ovarian reserve on the IVF board who got pg on her second IVF cycle and m/c (Turner syndrome). Unfortunately, the risk of chromosomal abnormalities increases (as it does with age).

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    the re mentioned that our odds with ivf would be similar - not many good embryos b/c there aren't many good eggs left. it really does seem very hopeless. dh is making plans for what we'll do when we have exhausted all options - iui and ivf.

    what was your re's plan for iui? i take clomid cd 3 -7 (make about 3-5 large follies) and then do a shot to induce ovulation two days before the insemination. i am wondering if i should be more aggressive.
    Our first IUIs were with femara and no trigger. I think we tried 3 or 4 cycles? Can't remember now because it's been a few years. I just wasn't quite ready mentally to jump to IVF even though the RE pointed out that our chances would be higher. On our first IVF cycle I had 5 eggs which were fertilized with ICSI. My DH has "super sperm," but with my few, fragile eggs they wanted to increase the odds. Only one fertilized and it stopped dividing at 4 cells. My poor response and my obvious egg issue was devastating. We decided to try one more IVF cycle with my eggs. On the second cycle we got 7 eggs. I was thrilled with that! Unfortunately, only 2 fertilized with ICSI and those stopped dividing at 3 and 4 cells. No transfer. Again. I knew I wanted to experience a pregnancy and felt like I had exhausted the possibility of using my own eggs. I was OK with using donor eggs at that point, but we didn't have the financial option of going that route yet. I decided that we should at least use up the Follistim that was leftover (almost $1000 of meds sitting in the veggie drawer of the fridge). I decided I would try acupuncture for 3 cycles prior to an injectable/IUI cycle. My acupuncturist was the only one who seemed optimistic at that point although our RE always said things like, "anything is possible." I produced three follicles by trigger time and was blessed with the healthy pregnancy that resulted in my DS. I still get teary-eyed thinking of how blessed I am. I don't know why it happened when it did, but when I read other stories it seems like it just takes longer for women with low ovarian reserve. There's another good board out there specifically for women with high fsh (or low amh), but I can't think of the name right now. If you're interested, I can find it again. I'm mrs.doolittle on there, too.

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    reneakelly - do you mean the amniotic fluid test for pgd? if i do get pg again, i will be recommended to have it done. it wasn't necessary with the last little angel, as the u/s revealed that there was so much fluid it wouldn't make it. the docs thought it was tri13 or 18 or something else lethal right away. the odds of a m/c with the amniotic fluid test scares me though!

    Quote Originally Posted by reneakelly View Post
    Kadibug Im sorry you have to go through all this I see you're going to do IVF are you going to do the PGD, I think thats what it is. to make sure you babies are ok. I dont understand this whole low AMH thing. I do see other women with it doing micro or mini IVF, because they dont make enough eggs. Good luck and i hope you get your rainbow baby soon.
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    1 M/C 2011, tri18
    2 IUI's 2011 BFN
    IVF - 4/2012
    BFP - 10dpt
    u/s 5/7 - HB128, one bean!
    u/s 5/17 - HB150, 7 mm bleeding (eek!)
    u/s 5/24 - HB162
    u/s 5/31 - HB180, NT .8
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    Quote Originally Posted by overthemoon View Post
    Kadibug, we didn't exactly talk about FET, but I'll tell you what he did say. I expressed my fears of IVF, of what to do with leftover embryos, and multiples, and the doctor said we'd fertilize 3 eggs, put them in one by one, and freeze the rest of the eggs. So he seemed to think I'd have decent response, I guess.

    If the doctor really fears you will not have a good response, would he (and you) consider doing IVF sooner rather than later? Maybe you'd have more embryos to store then. Just a question to ask your doctor.

    Sorry you are having to make these decisions. It isn't fair, and 30 is not late to start trying, not in my circles anyway!
    Last edited by kadibug; 01-02-2012 at 06:53 PM.
    Me - 33 AMH 1.22, DOR, Polyspermy
    DH - 30 Low Testosterone
    WOOF - Annabell, 7 & Eleanor, 8
    TTC #1, 7/2009
    2 M/C's 2010
    1 M/C 2011, tri18
    2 IUI's 2011 BFN
    IVF - 4/2012
    BFP - 10dpt
    u/s 5/7 - HB128, one bean!
    u/s 5/17 - HB150, 7 mm bleeding (eek!)
    u/s 5/24 - HB162
    u/s 5/31 - HB180, NT .8
    u/s 6/7 - HB161, NT 1.15
    us/ 6/12 - HB143
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    overthemoon- DH and I decided that we won't use my eggs for IVF if our last three IUI's fail or produce another tri18/13/defect. My sister offered so we are going to take up he chance to use her eggs. Since I have such low odds of success the first try - up to 50% and almost no chance of an FET... it just makes sense to not place all my eggs in one basket (pun intended).

    Quote Originally Posted by overthemoon View Post
    Kadibug, we didn't exactly talk about FET, but I'll tell you what he did say. I expressed my fears of IVF, of what to do with leftover embryos, and multiples, and the doctor said we'd fertilize 3 eggs, put them in one by one, and freeze the rest of the eggs. So he seemed to think I'd have decent response, I guess.

    If the doctor really fears you will not have a good response, would he (and you) consider doing IVF sooner rather than later? Maybe you'd have more embryos to store then. Just a question to ask your doctor.

    Sorry you are having to make these decisions. It isn't fair, and 30 is not late to start trying, not in my circles anyway!
    Me - 33 AMH 1.22, DOR, Polyspermy
    DH - 30 Low Testosterone
    WOOF - Annabell, 7 & Eleanor, 8
    TTC #1, 7/2009
    2 M/C's 2010
    1 M/C 2011, tri18
    2 IUI's 2011 BFN
    IVF - 4/2012
    BFP - 10dpt
    u/s 5/7 - HB128, one bean!
    u/s 5/17 - HB150, 7 mm bleeding (eek!)
    u/s 5/24 - HB162
    u/s 5/31 - HB180, NT .8
    u/s 6/7 - HB161, NT 1.15
    us/ 6/12 - HB143
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrs.doolittle View Post
    I am blessed to have been spared any m/c at this point, but there's another poster with ovarian reserve on the IVF board who got pg on her second IVF cycle and m/c (Turner syndrome). Unfortunately, the risk of chromosomal abnormalities increases (as it does with age).



    Our first IUIs were with femara and no trigger. I think we tried 3 or 4 cycles? Can't remember now because it's been a few years. I just wasn't quite ready mentally to jump to IVF even though the RE pointed out that our chances would be higher. On our first IVF cycle I had 5 eggs which were fertilized with ICSI. My DH has "super sperm," but with my few, fragile eggs they wanted to increase the odds. Only one fertilized and it stopped dividing at 4 cells. My poor response and my obvious egg issue was devastating. We decided to try one more IVF cycle with my eggs. On the second cycle we got 7 eggs. I was thrilled with that! Unfortunately, only 2 fertilized with ICSI and those stopped dividing at 3 and 4 cells. No transfer. Again. I knew I wanted to experience a pregnancy and felt like I had exhausted the possibility of using my own eggs. I was OK with using donor eggs at that point, but we didn't have the financial option of going that route yet. I decided that we should at least use up the Follistim that was leftover (almost $1000 of meds sitting in the veggie drawer of the fridge). I decided I would try acupuncture for 3 cycles prior to an injectable/IUI cycle. My acupuncturist was the only one who seemed optimistic at that point although our RE always said things like, "anything is possible." I produced three follicles by trigger time and was blessed with the healthy pregnancy that resulted in my DS. I still get teary-eyed thinking of how blessed I am. I don't know why it happened when it did, but when I read other stories it seems like it just takes longer for women with low ovarian reserve. There's another good board out there specifically for women with high fsh (or low amh), but I can't think of the name right now. If you're interested, I can find it again. I'm mrs.doolittle on there, too.
    Will you let me know where to find the board on low ovarian reserve? I'd love to get some ideas on suggestions for my future IUI's.
    Me - 33 AMH 1.22, DOR, Polyspermy
    DH - 30 Low Testosterone
    WOOF - Annabell, 7 & Eleanor, 8
    TTC #1, 7/2009
    2 M/C's 2010
    1 M/C 2011, tri18
    2 IUI's 2011 BFN
    IVF - 4/2012
    BFP - 10dpt
    u/s 5/7 - HB128, one bean!
    u/s 5/17 - HB150, 7 mm bleeding (eek!)
    u/s 5/24 - HB162
    u/s 5/31 - HB180, NT .8
    u/s 6/7 - HB161, NT 1.15
    us/ 6/12 - HB143
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    Kadi PGD is where they test the embros before they put them back into you. If you use your sister eggs do you have to use a lawyer and how much would something like that cost. Im interested in someone carrying my babies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kadibug View Post
    Will you let me know where to find the board on low ovarian reserve? I'd love to get some ideas on suggestions for my future IUI's.
    http://www.fertilethoughts.com/forum...arian-failure/

    I haven't been on there in a while, but found it very helpful to find a large group of women with the same diagnosis. It was very encouraging for me to read success stories. I think I'll re-visit them now that I'm thinking about it!

    Looks like dreamchaser might be there, too.
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    I am! I was just checking to see if you'd responded to this thread Beth. I was going to say that I thought fertilethoughts was the forum you were referring to.

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    oh... pgd, well that was discussed with the RE. he said it's something to consider if we use my eggs. if we use my sister's, we'll only need a lawyer for the birth certificate (i think) as my sister has no desire to have more children. the cost to use a donor egg is about 17k at my clinic here. unfortunately, we'd probably have to go to washington state and use the clinic closest to my sister... and i don't know their costs. i hope it's not more than 17k - that's CRAZY.

    fyi - my sister said that she wouldn't be a surrogate, so it would really be egg donation only.

    Quote Originally Posted by reneakelly View Post
    Kadi PGD is where they test the embros before they put them back into you. If you use your sister eggs do you have to use a lawyer and how much would something like that cost. Im interested in someone carrying my babies.
    Me - 33 AMH 1.22, DOR, Polyspermy
    DH - 30 Low Testosterone
    WOOF - Annabell, 7 & Eleanor, 8
    TTC #1, 7/2009
    2 M/C's 2010
    1 M/C 2011, tri18
    2 IUI's 2011 BFN
    IVF - 4/2012
    BFP - 10dpt
    u/s 5/7 - HB128, one bean!
    u/s 5/17 - HB150, 7 mm bleeding (eek!)
    u/s 5/24 - HB162
    u/s 5/31 - HB180, NT .8
    u/s 6/7 - HB161, NT 1.15
    us/ 6/12 - HB143
    Lilypie Maternity tickers

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