Ultrasound, not as good as we thought :( Updated 3/11

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Ultrasound, not as good as we thought :( Updated 3/11

So the dr called today. She isn't happy with the way things look on the ultrasound.

She said that my amniotic fluid 'looks' low. And that the heartbeat (112 bpm) seems low.

I have done plenty of looking and searching and from everything I can find, 90-110 is very normal for 6-7 weeks. Why is she unhappy with that? Did I find wrong information?

I don't know anything about amniotic fluid levels and ultrasounds. Could anyone offer some insight? Can my body fix this? Can this be ok with my fluid a little low? Is this a VERY bad thing?

Please anyone?? I was so sure everything was ok now, but now I'm so worried and confused and upset.

Next ultrasound is next week. I hate waiting and worrying and not knowing.

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*hugs* I will be sending all my positive thoughts your way that everything turns out fine. I'm pretty sure that a HB of 112 is totally normal, but I can't comment on the amniotic fluid volume. Hopefully it was just the angle that the ultrasound was taken at or something!

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Susan, I have been watching you for so long but JUST today so a post that showed you are pregnant! Then I lurked you and found this post. I will be praying for you! I don't know anything about either of those things, but I am hoping it's just nothing!!!

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When was your u/s? Last week, right??

My old RE wouldn't even do an u/s until 7 weeks to make sure you see a heartbeat - so 112bpm at 6 weeks sounds great to me!!

And Amniotic fluid? at 6 weeks? What doctor was this? An OB or a GP?

I think this doctor has you all worried for nothing - at this point an u/s is sort of like a beta - one on it's own cannot be necesarily good or bad, kwim?

That early, you may or may not really see much, and a week later things can be perfect or ahead of the game.

Try not to worry (I know, easy for me to say) and next week will hopeful ease your mind!

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Ive personally never have had a dr check amniotic fluid that early. Everything is so tiny at that phase that you are lucky to even see the baby, let alone anything else. The angle and what method they use, where the baby is laying, the machine its self, and so on can greatly effect it as well. The same goes for the heart beat. Everything is so tiny its really hard to get an accurate read... and 112 is right in normal.

it sounds to me like your doc is getting you worried over nothing. The fact that you saw the baby, its in the right place, and you were able to see the heart beating is all good signs that things are doing what they should be. Now, I'm not an expert, but this is all what I have been told with my 4 pregnancies over the last 7 yrs.

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Was this the doctor that you don't like and were going to change from? If so, remember there was a reason for all that. I think you are doing ok and everything sounds normal to me. I have had early u/s and they are always hard to see anything.

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I have never heard of fluid being checked this early either. Just try not to think too much about it, it is still very early.

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Ditto, this is the first I've heard of something like this. Normally fluid is something checked much later on in pregnancy. The only suggestion I have is to drink plenty of water, staying hydrated always helps fluid.

Try to keep thinking positive...

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I have no idea about this. It sounded normal to me. Sending positive thoughts your way

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Alls I know is that (at least later in pregnancy) your body produces amniotic fluid daily and one u/s is not a definitive read on fluid by itself.

I, too, have never heard of them checking fluid this early.

:goodluck:

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I've had lots of early U/S (due to bleeding) and they've never mentioned amniotic fluid levels until later. Placenta only starts to get mentioned around 12 weeks.

When I had my u/s at 6 weeks with DD2 the HB (around 100) seemed so fragile and low compared to the 160 I saw at 8 weeks with DD1. Although I knew I wasn't having a loss at that time, I didn't have much faith until I had my 8 week one and the HB was 140.

I would wonder if your doctor is used to U/S this early. 112 is fine for 6 weeks but low for 8 weeks.

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Thank you all very much. You made me feel tons better.
I'm not sure how I feel about the dr yet. I really don't want a dr who will make any anxiety I have worse. (esp if it's for no reason)
We scheduled a repeat ultrasound for next monday morning. I will be eight weeks then. I think maybe that will get us a better look at things.

I also remember it being a little bit of a worry with my other two, as their hb's were at the lower end of normal the whole time. Maybe it's just the way my body makes babies?

I am not sure, but I'm really just trying to not stress too much. And drink some water, to try to keep hydrated and my fluids up!

Thanks again ladies Smile

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I have no suggestions or comments other than I hope & pray that everything is alright. Sending lots of positive vibes your way... KUP!

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Michele

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Destress and fluids up....sounds like a plan! Hope to hear a great result Monday

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Ditto what everyone else says.
Never heard of the fluid being checked that early and the heartbeat seems spot on to me.
Huge hugs!
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ps I really do not like your doc!!!!!
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I agree with the others. I've never heard of amniotic fluid being checked at such an early stage in pregnancy. I would think based on everything you do know from that u/s that all is well! Smile All the best at your next u/s next week! I hope that you will be reassured that everything is perfect and on target!

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7 Weeks, 6 days

6 weeks, 3 days

Well this was frustrating.
Obviously we can tell the baby is growing, which is great. The HB was 146bpm so that is awesome for just about 8 weeks, and has sped up dramatically.
But bcs the hospital officially won't let techs give results, they wouldn't tell me how many weeks/days the baby is measuring.
Also, my uterus doesn't look like it has a bigger space, the black doesn't look any bigger than a week and a half ago. I'm not sure if that means anything.

So. Deciding if I should feel better and be thrilled that the baby is bigger, and heartrate is great. Or if I should still be scared because of my uterus and the lack of measurement. Arg. Dr will get results tomorrow(ish). I hate waiting!! Smile

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Firstly...Awesome news!!!!
That all looks amazing to me!!
Secondly...did they say that the black doesn't look any bigger? or are you going on what you are seeing?
Because to my eyes it looks like its ratio is the same in the first as in the second which means yes it is bigger it just fits your baby.
Does that make sense...looks spot on to me. Smile

When will doc contact you and when are you getting a different one?
Sorry read the answer to this. Smile
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Looks great to me!!!

I have had a lot of ultrasounds in my day and an good healthy heartbeat overrules any other concerns I have (and for me 2 u/s in a row with a heartbeat is when I start to feel like things are going to be okay).

What they are measuring is pretty tiny still, so you never know if this u/s tech could have used different settings then the last one (more magnified last time, could look on paper the same size as 2 weeks ago, kwim?)

I know it's tough to start to breath easy - but I think you will be getting good results soon!

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It looks good to me too! I mean, the difference in size between week 6 and week 7 is the difference in size between a pea and a blueberry, so I think it has to be difficult to tell growth of your uterus or anything else just by eyeballing it. I agree with Liz that unless your u/s tech said specifically that wee babe hasn't grown, you probably won't be able to tell just from looking. Seeing the h/b and seeing how much it has increased is, to me, a great sign!!!! Please update us again as soon as you talk to your doctor.

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Totally agree with everyone. You can't eyeball the size of the babe. They could have the magnification setting different this time than last.

HB is great rate. Smile

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I think it looks really good! I agree with everyone else about the magnification setting being different. But you can for sure see the difference between last weeks and todays. The heartbeat is looking great, and they didn't see anything too alarming otherwise they would have sent you strait to the doctor. I hope the doc calls you soon.

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Well she seems to still not be happy with the fluid amount. And she says that now my yolk sac is shaped oddly. The baby is four days behind in growth. And wants to repeat in a week, because she doesn't think that looks promising.
I did my own research and can't find any reason for alarm on those findings.

I think I'm switching drs. I don't like to be constantly worried. And I don't like that when I asked her WHY it wasn't promising, she didn't really have an answer for me. She said the growth wasn't good, but four days behind is not that much at all. I don't like drs who can't tell me why they are worried, or that might be worrying me for no reason. I really don't like that the fumbling trainee that did my ultrasound remeasured each thing 4 times and couldn't find my right ovary.

The heartbeat sped up perfectly, and the baby grew a decent amount. Four days behind is not enough to be concerned with, imo. So I'm just sticking with that, and will see someone new, and get their opinion.

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Susan, I'm sorry that your doctor still isn't happy and is freaking you out. I'm with you, get a second opinion!

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"smsturner" wrote:

Well she seems to still not be happy with the fluid amount. And she says that now my yolk sac is shaped oddly. The baby is four days behind in growth. And wants to repeat in a week, because she doesn't think that looks promising.
I did my own research and can't find any reason for alarm on those findings.

I think I'm switching drs. I don't like to be constantly worried. And I don't like that when I asked her WHY it wasn't promising, she didn't really have an answer for me. She said the growth wasn't good, but four days behind is not that much at all. I don't like drs who can't tell me why they are worried, or that might be worrying me for no reason. I really don't like that the fumbling trainee that did my ultrasound remeasured each thing 4 times and couldn't find my right ovary.

The heartbeat sped up perfectly, and the baby grew a decent amount. Four days behind is not enough to be concerned with, imo. So I'm just sticking with that, and will see someone new, and get their opinion.

**Lurker***
I agree get a second opinion. My babe measured 5 days behind that early on and throughout actually, even though I KNEW for a fact when he was conceived, and no one was worried at all. When he was born it turned out that he was about a week ahead of what they had thought based on the ultrasounds. My doc at the time said they won't even change your due date unless the ultrasound measures 7 days or more off, because the accuracy for dating via ultrasound just isn't that great.

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Seriously!!!!!!
I so want to smack your dr upside the head!!!
Grrr!!!
Did she give you measurements?
Or just speel off all this doom and gloom!!!

Look on it this way...you're getting extra scans seeing your gorgeous bean!!! Smile

Still want to smack the dr!!!
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Since we are going out of town on Thursday, I can't get in to anyone before that.
So I set up an appointment with a very nice place, that has midwives (I'm excited for that, I really loved my last midwives) next Thursday afternoon, the 21st. I took my time, and looked, and found a place I really think will be great.

At the old clinic. I threw enough of a fit apparently. They are having the OB that's the head of the clinic do my next ultrasound, which will be next Friday, instead of my original doctor. He is highly recommended by lots of people. He took a look at my last one and told the nurse that there is a great heartbeat, and the baby is growing, and it's so hard to tell much else when they are this small. (nothing like doomed, low fluid, abnormal, etc) Honestly, I feel better just that he looked at it and didn't immediately decide that my pregnancy is a lost cause. In fact he sounds way more optomistic than the other dr.
So I will go back next Friday and will be about 9.5 weeks. I feel good about that. It will be like getting my second opinion, even if it's in the same clinic.

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Good, I'm glad that you are getting another set of eyes on it, and one that comes highly recommended! Please let us know what the new dr says!

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I'm glad you are getting a second opinion. It will put your mind at ease. That is a fantastic heartrate! I would stay positive! Smile