Threatened Abortion??

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Threatened Abortion??

Hi,
I haven't been on this site for some months now. Hubby and I were trying to conceive (PCOS is a factor), until earlier this month we made the decision to stop trying for a couple months and stop stressing about it.

Last week tuesday i started cramping in my lower abdomen...like bad period cramps, and I started spotting thursday morning (My period ended a week prior to this). Pain went away when I sat down and would hurt once I was up and about.
I went to the doctor on Friday, and was sent to do an ultrasound to check if any of the cysts had ruptured or become enlarged.
I did the ultrasound Saturday morning and that resulted in a whirlwind of emotions for the entire day. While doing the ultrasound I was asked to take a pregnancy test.
I was told to wait outside for the ultrasound results to take back to the doctor. I figured the test was negative because no one spoke to me.

I get to the doc's office and the lab calls me to say turned out the test was positive and the radiologist tells me the doc has to do a D&C because I have an incomplete abortion.
So...I had to hear over the phone that I did conceive, and I lost the baby.

I wasn't doing very well after that call as you can imagine.

The doctor instructed me to wait for the GYN that was coming in in a few minutes to get his professional take on it.
The GYN saw me and read the radiologist's report, and informed me that the conclusion does not match the findings.

So basically, I may be pregnant and am losing the baby (miscarriage), or the pregnancy is threatened or completely normal.

I then had to go to another lab and do the first of 2 blood serum blood tests to determine if my hcg levels are rising or falling.
I took a pregnancy test while at home yesterday and both lines came up. The positive line a little fainter than the control line, but both are there. My nipples are sore, and I felt nauseous couple times yesterday.

I don't know what to think at this point and am really just hoping and praying I am in fact pregnant, and that this little being inside me is going to be ok.

Also, I haven't had much cramping since last friday when I saw the doctor.

Any thoughts anyone?? I could really use some advice or feedback.

Thanks!

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bigarmhug:bigarmhug:bigarmhug:bigarmhug:

I'm so sorry you're going through this. In my experience, some medical professionals can be very insensitive to miscarriages because they see them every day. They forget how extreemly emotionally painful they can be... even when you didn't know you were pg.

It suprises me that they recommeded a D&C since your bleeding had stopped. What did they say about what they saw on the US?

I'm sad to say, that even with a + HPT that doesn't mean that the bean will stick. The blood work is important and I SO know how hard it is to wait those 3 days for answers. I hope you get great news with your second blood test. Smile

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Hi, thanks for responding...I really need people to talk to about this.

The US showed a small amount of fluid in some cavity or something...I dont remember the term used. But my GYN said that that is neither here nor there since after ovulation a follicle bursts etc...so that could be the result of the fluid.

That's why he ordered the blood tests. I just came back from doing the second one, so now its a day and a half of waiting. Sigh.

I was spotting red yesterday evening....nothing for the first half of the day, and nothing since last night. Cramping is basically gone...so I'm hoping these are positive signs. I took a second preg test today and it came back positive again...showed the results in 3-4 minutes.
My nipples are also sore.

And to be completely honest...If I hear...if its meant to be one more time I will scream.

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:bigarmhug: I am so sorry you are going through this. I hope you get your results back sooner rather than later and, of course, I hope you get some good news. Some medical professionals really should be reminded that they are dealing with people and that something that is "routine" for them might be life changing for a patient.

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Thanks so much Smile

Question...I'm feeling quite nauseous...can I take this as a good sign?

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Nausea is definitely a good sign. I was thrilled to feel sick when I was pregnant because it was a good sign that my hormones were doing their job. That being said, people can also have normal pregnancies without any nausea. When will you get your second beta results back? Will they do another u/s soon?

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Hi, well...no nausea since waking up. Nipples still very sensitive.
The blood test results will be sent to the doc's office today by 3pm, and I see him at 5:30 Sad

I have to wait a whole day to know what's going on *sob*

I'm not sure if he will order another ultrasound. I guess it depends on what the tests say.

Please keep me in your prayers

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:bigarmhug: im so sorry your going through this !! I hope when your results come back they are positive !

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went to the doc. Blood hcg dropped from 721 on saturday to 666 on monday. This is not what the doc wanted to see. We were very hopeful that it would double. He's ordered another blood test in a week to see if the levels are rising at all.

I don't know what to think or how to feel right now. Doesn't help that I'm cramping since this evening and just saw red spotting instead of brown spotting from earlier.

someone...anyone...talk to me please.

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:bigarmhug: I am so sorry your hcg didn't rise.

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((HUGS)) I am so sorry about your levels not doubling and all this back and forth business. I can't imagine what a roller coaster this is for you.

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:comfort: :grouphug:

I am so very very sorry to hear that you have to go through this heartache. I am also very sorry that the radiologist was such and insensitive jerk just to tell you that you need a D&C when he obviously didn't have all the facts. I know this is devastating for any woman even if you didn't initially know that you were pregnant, perhaps even more so since you want a child so much (we can relate to wanting to be pregnant here!).

I will keep you in my prayers that you have a miraculous rise in your numbers at your next check. Again, I'm so sorry that this is happening to you. Please keep us posted and let us know how you are doing.

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Thank you all so much for your kind words. It's comforting to know I have people supporting me out there.

I'm trying to be positive...but my mind is giving me a hard time.
I try to keep reminding myself that this in itself is a great thing...being able to conceive 11 months after being told I have PCOS. As a matter of fact the radiologist in the report stated she only saw one cyst on my right ovary. My doc attributes this to the fact that I lost like 11 pounds last year.

I'm also happy in the fact that there doesn't seem to be any issues with DH and myself in being able to conceive.
But to find out this way that I'm 'pregnant' is just not the way any woman wants to find out.
I did 3 at home preg tests; last one was yesterday and they came back positive. However, I can't put much stock in that because if I am miscarrying or having god forbid an ectopic pregnancy, I would still show up as being pregnant.

I've been reading a lot, and have read that there have been cases where women with low hcg levels went on to deliver healthy babies, so I'm not kicking myself out of the game just yet.

My mother is visiting for a few days, and while I appreciate the support from her and DH, I can't deal with the sad looks and the constant asking if I am ok...
I just want this week to pass and for monday to come for me to do the test and then tuesday to get the results.
Still spotting, but a friend of my sister said she spotted the entire first trimester with her second son, and my sister said she cramped for both pregnancies...so....

God willing.

Thanks again for all your support ladies!

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I'm sure it's hard to stay positive, but miracles do occur. Being able to conceive is a wonderful blessing when you have been TTC for 11 months with no luck. Hopefully, this pregnancy will stick, but at least you know now that your body is able to conceive and your DH's sperm seem to be doing their job. I truly hope this pregnancy just got off to a slow start and that you get positive news on Mon. Hang in there!

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Just got a call from another doctor at my doc's office who was reading the initial ultrasound report. He called to tell me it doesn't look good and that it seems as though I am having a miscarriage.

I don't know if I can manage...everyday I pray and think and hope that maybe this is just a slow start and that this little one will stick around. Now I just don't know anymore.

My husband is at work so I don't want to call him and stress him out, and my twin sister who I am very close to is thousands of miles away in Canada.
I wish i could leave this situation for a few days, and come back when its all over and done with Sad

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I just wanted to say that I am so sorry you're going through this. When I had my mc it was long and drawn out with lots of tests and ultrasounds. I kept trying to have hope even when the signs didn't look good. I know how difficult it is and how torn it can make you feel. Miracles do happen though! Either way I hope you can get some answers soon so that you can begin moving forward.

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Hi ladies,
I have a question...I'm still waiting to get the blood hcg test done on Monday and see the doc Tuesday evening. I decided this morning to take another pregnancy test, because while i am still spotting I'm not cramping anymore....
The test showed the positive line within seconds and is darker than the previous tests I did last week...whereas the previous tests took a minute or two to show up and were faint-ish. What do you think this means?

I'm just trying to remain positive and hold on to whatever little hope I have.

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"KryssyD" wrote:

Hi ladies,
I have a question...I'm still waiting to get the blood hcg test done on Monday and see the doc Tuesday evening. I decided this morning to take another pregnancy test, because while i am still spotting I'm not cramping anymore....
The test showed the positive line within seconds and is darker than the previous tests I did last week...whereas the previous tests took a minute or two to show up and were faint-ish. What do you think this means?

I'm just trying to remain positive and hold on to whatever little hope I have.

I would say that a the tests getting darker lines is encouraging. As long as you are using the same brand as before, at least. I'm sorry that you were told it doesn't look good. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers that it's just early and your results on Monday come back with some good news for you. Prayers work and miracles happen. I am so sorry that you are going through such a heartwrenching and stressful time. Please keep us updated as you hear anything. We are here for you either way!

~Anna

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"AnnaRO" wrote:

I would say that a the tests getting darker lines is encouraging. As long as you are using the same brand as before, at least. I'm sorry that you were told it doesn't look good. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers that it's just early and your results on Monday come back with some good news for you. Prayers work and miracles happen. I am so sorry that you are going through such a heartwrenching and stressful time. Please keep us updated as you hear anything. We are here for you either way!

~Anna

Hi Anna, Thanks for your kind words. I forgot to mention that the latest test was done first thing in the morning and the previous ones were done during the day. I've read online where that makes a difference so I really don't know now...not that I had any clue in the first place. I also read that it takes quite a few weeks for the HCG levels to go down after a m/c...If this is indeed a m/c it seems I will have to do a D&C because I haven't passed anything, nor have I had any heavy bleeding.

Today is not a good day. I'm pissed off with the world, and I have closed myself off from friends and only want to communicate with my sister and my mother and husband, and even with them there are times when I have to fight the conversation.
I also live in a complex where I am surrounded by children, and two pregnant women daily. Both women have kids and got pregnant again just like that and while they are lovely people...I can't help thinking...IT'S NOT FAIR.

It would also seem like I'm coming down with the flu...my stomach has been upset since last night and my throat feels like sandpaper...GREAT:mad:

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Kryssy- I am so sorry you are having to go through all this. :bigarmhug: It is heartbreaking to read your posts...unfortunately, I have been there. It is good that your line is darker. That is definitely encouraging. But as your stated...it does take a while for the HCGs to drop off completely. Luckily for me, my went down quite drastically and I was able to miscarry without a D & C. I am praying for a little miracle for you and that your little bean is sticking around. However, if it isn't... I hope you can begin to miscarry naturally. How are things going today? Let us know!!!:grouphug:

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"-kate-" wrote:

Kryssy- I am so sorry you are having to go through all this. :bigarmhug: It is heartbreaking to read your posts...unfortunately, I have been there. It is good that your line is darker. That is definitely encouraging. But as your stated...it does take a while for the HCGs to drop off completely. Luckily for me, my went down quite drastically and I was able to miscarry without a D & C. I am praying for a little miracle for you and that your little bean is sticking around. However, if it isn't... I hope you can begin to miscarry naturally. How are things going today? Let us know!!!:grouphug:

Hi Kate,
Thanks so much for your reply :sad:. It's been rough and I haven't wanted to speak to anyone really. My appointment with the doctor is in an hour and a half and I am so scared. I took the blood hcg test yesterday so I'll be going in to see what the results are. I too am praying for a miracle. I really do hope that my little angel is still with me. I am still spotting brown, but not nearly as much as before.
If it is indeed a m/c then I really just want it to be over quickly so I can try to move on.
I havent been able to eat much lately, and when I do eat, halfway through my meal I'm nauseous and have to stop eating. On top of this I've come down with a cold...I have a horrible cough and my throat is sandpaper Sad

I'll let you guys know what's going on once I'm done with the doctor.

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Kryssy,
Please let us know! Been thinking about you! T & P.

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I too wanted to check in on you and see how you are doing. What did the doctor say? I'm wrapping you in my prayers right now!

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"Mamma_Bear_81" wrote:

I too wanted to check in on you and see how you are doing. What did the doctor say? I'm wrapping you in my prayers right now!

Hi ladies...
Ok, so here goes...the hcg results went up to 793 from 666...
Still hasn't doubled...but the doc is hopeful. My symptoms have improved...spotting is much less and have not had any cramping.
My boobs feel fuller and I cant eat much without nausea...but the doc says I would experience these symptoms because of the hcg hormone...

According to the tests I am in my 4th to 5th week of pregnancy. I have to do another test in a week...hopefully the levels will rise again, to at least 1500...and from there I can do an ultrasound...because something would be visible.

Right now we are all hoping that my little angel is growing where she should...in my uterus, and that it is not an ectopic pregnancy. I will also be on the lookout for any changes...increased pain and bleeding. I pray its not ectopic...as I really don't want my tubes to rupture :?.

I'm now fully into positive thinking mode...We really want to have this baby...and I pray to God that he blesses us with a little angel of our own.

Please keep me in your prayers ladies!!

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"Mamma_Bear_81" wrote:

I too wanted to check in on you and see how you are doing. What did the doctor say? I'm wrapping you in my prayers right now!

Hi ladies...
Ok, so here goes...the hcg results went up to 793 from 666...
Still hasn't doubled...but the doc is hopeful. My symptoms have improved...spotting is much less and have not had any cramping.
My boobs feel fuller and I cant eat much without nausea...but the doc says I would experience these symptoms because of the hcg hormone...

According to the tests I am in my 4th to 5th week of pregnancy. I have to do another test in a week...hopefully the levels will rise again, to at least 1500...and from there I can do an ultrasound...because something would be visible.

Right now we are all hoping that my little angel is growing where he/she should...in my uterus, and that it is not an ectopic pregnancy. I will also be on the lookout for any changes...increased pain and bleeding. I pray its not ectopic...as I really don't want my tubes to rupture :?.

I'm now fully into positive thinking mode...We really want to have this baby...and I pray to God that he blesses us with a little angel of our own.

Please keep me in your prayers ladies!!

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Kryssy,
That is great!!! Your little bean is still hanging in there. Increase is great!!!! When will the next HCG check be? Until then T & P still! And if you need to talk, we are here!

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I agree with Kate, we are always here too talk Smile I am glad to read that your levels have gone up and I pray they continue to do so!

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"-kate-" wrote:

Kryssy,
That is great!!! Your little bean is still hanging in there. Increase is great!!!! When will the next HCG check be? Until then T & P still! And if you need to talk, we are here!

Hi Kate,
I'm happy that the levels went up...but I'm almost too afraid to be too happy...because we still don't know if the little one is growing in the right place. I'm supposed to do the next test next week Tuesday, because it's Easter hols so this week is a short week and Monday is a holiday. The doc will be sent the results and he will give me a call and let me know if they are high enough to be able to do an ultrasound or if they have fallen.

I pray they don't fall and I pray my little bean is growing in my uterus where it should be. I am on the lookout for any change in symptoms to indicate ectopic pregnancy. But my symptoms have greatly improved....the spotting is almost down to nothing, and havent been cramping...except for some tenderness in my lower abdomen, but doc checked me yesterday and said my stomach feels fine.

It's so great that I can come here and talk to you guys about how I'm feeling. Apart from my immediate family, only 2 good friends have an idea of what's going on, and I'm not prepared to tell anyone anything until we know for sure what's going on.

Thanks for your support ladies!!

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Kryssy, you are in my thoughts and prayers. I truly hope your little bean snuggles on in for the long haul. Sending sticky vibes to you.

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Kryssy-
I know what you mean... it is hard to be happy cause in the back of your head you are so worried! You have to wait till tuesday... that is torture!!!!:bonkself: Glad you are feeling okay! Lots of sticky vibes!!

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"-kate-" wrote:

Kryssy-
I know what you mean... it is hard to be happy cause in the back of your head you are so worried! You have to wait till tuesday... that is torture!!!!:bonkself: Glad you are feeling okay! Lots of sticky vibes!!

Hey Kate,
Yes this is absolute torture! I'm constantly checking my symptoms to see if they are improving or getting worse...every little bit of discomfort I feel makes me wonder if its ectopic and about to rupture. I'm also filled with hopeful thoughts on my little bean, hoping and praying that it'll be ok, and healthy, and really important right now....that it's growing in the right place.

I can't believe I have to wait until Tuesday to do the next blood test. Then I'll have to wait for the doctor to contact me and let me know if I can do the ultrasound.

Siiiiiggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!

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freaking out a little

ok so I was just at home relaxing...not doing much...and I started cramping...like I would if I was getting my period. I read that that's normal...what I don't think is normal is that my spotting had red in it...still not much...only see it when I wipe or on my pantyliner...but the sudden red (not bright red...more pink) is freaking me out!

I'm now just in a state of fear and worry and I am praying to God above that both myself and the baby are ok.

any thoughts anyone? Has anyone else experienced this with early pregnancy?

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I had cramping and had spotting for the first 2 months with my son (in 2006), and I also have PCOS. I never had my numbers checked but apparently the cramping was from dehydration (which is why it's super important to drink tons of water!) and the spotting was from (of all things) "sex" apparently. It's good that your numbers are going up, and I wish you the best luck that everything goes well and you get the results you want. Biggrin Remember, if you're really concerned about something you can always go to the ER or if there is a local Labor and Delivery Center nearby you can go to them for emergency care - they might treat you better than your current Dr who seems to not really know which direction he's heading from one moment to the next.

:bigarmhug:

- Angela

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I cramped a lot in my first trimester with both of my pregnancies. The spotting could be caused by a sensitive cervix - not uncommon!

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I had cramping a lot in the first trimester and around 5 weeks had some spotting that was brown and pink. I hope it's just your cervix being sensitive!