Good luck today Kara (overthemoon)

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Good luck today Kara (overthemoon)

Thoughts and prayers are with you!

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:goodluck: Thinking about you today!

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Good luck! Sending you lots of T&Ps Smile

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Thanks everyone. We retrieved 7 eggs. I was surprised since I had a lot more follicles at my last US, even though I knew a bunch of them were small. I was hoping for 10. I guess all but 9 were too small, and we got 7. Now I'm wondering what happened to the other 2, but I didn't think to ask the doctor at the time. Did he miss them or something?? We waited a while beforehand and he was really busy. I mentioned that 7 was what we got last time (only 5 were mature though). We know that didn't end like we wanted it to. But the doctor said 7 was "enough", especially since they are going to to ICSI on them. Crossing my fingers for good fertilization this time.

Anyway, not to sound like a complainer, but I feel infinitely worse today than after my last ER. I can't kick the anesthesia and I started having horrible pain/cramping on the way home. I took 3 ibuprofens and feel better, but I'm really bloated up. It might be partially my stomach/GI. I really hope it gets better soon, like today.

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Congrats on getting 7 eggs. Some follies can be empty. Not all follies have eggs in them. Hopefully things turn out different than last time.

Sorry you aren't feeling the best. Rest up and take it easy. I remember being really crampy and in so much pain on the way home from my 1st ER. Idk if it was gas or what. I also thought maybe there were smaller follies that they didn't take anything out of that maybe ruptured. It was awful. I had a 2hr ride home and we had to pull over because I was going to throw up from the pain. We were going to stop at an ER we passed by but the pain stopped. It seemed to stop as fast as it came on. Hopefully you continue to feel better.

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I didn't even think about all the other small follicles. I had 14 at the last ultrasound and we only took 7. What does happen to the others? They rupture or reabsorb?

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Idk what happens to them. I would think one of the two...rupture or reabsorb but I'm not sure which.

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"meggyrn" wrote:

Congrats on getting 7 eggs. Some follies can be empty. Not all follies have eggs in them. Hopefully things turn out different than last time.

Sorry you aren't feeling the best. Rest up and take it easy. I remember being really crampy and in so much pain on the way home from my 1st ER. Idk if it was gas or what. I also thought maybe there were smaller follies that they didn't take anything out of that maybe ruptured. It was awful. I had a 2hr ride home and we had to pull over because I was going to throw up from the pain. We were going to stop at an ER we passed by but the pain stopped. It seemed to stop as fast as it came on. Hopefully you continue to feel better.

I think you made a good decision to do ICSI. I think they frequently miscount the follicles when doing the ultrasounds. I also think that there is always this over-estimation of how many eggs you will get based on the follicles. Your chances of having a success are not that different with 7 follicles compared to 13.

I hope you recover quickly. You're just 2 days behind me. It's all so scary and exciting.

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I'm sorry that you aren't feeling well. Rest up and take care of yourself. 7 is a great number!! Try to remember that every cycle is different. T&Ps are with you!

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Well, I am not doing well. I am in horrible pain in my abdomen and under my ribcage and both shoulder blades. It hurts to breathe. I saw my doctor, who saw fluid behind one ovary and at my diaphragm. On the way to his office, I nearly passed out, was dizzy, sweating, ghostly white. It was so scary. He doesn't feel that I'm still bleeding, but that probably one of my ovaries was bleeding after the procedure. He doesn't feel it's anything life threatening, but offered to admit me to the hospital for pain control. I didn't want to go, but now I'm sort of wishing I had. I still hurt so bad and now we'd have to drop the kids off at the neighbors if my husband drove me to the hospital. My doctor is on call and said to call him if I want to go, but I am just going to try to make it through. I am taking pain killers and ibuprofen (which I just took-hope it works miracles)

My husband is not happy. I am not either. I am pretty sure this is the last straw, the final sign that I need to end this. I mean, I just want another baby, not a bizarre or crazy request, but it's just not working out. My husband would never agree to round 3 after this. We will see what we get for embryos this time, and one way or the other, this is the last time we are doing this. This is way too hard on my family.

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Sounds like you have severe hyperstimulation. Mine also hit after the ER. Glad to hear you are in communication with your doctor about the fluid.

ICSI is a great plan with 7 eggs. I would have done the exact same thing.

Take care of yourself.

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"overthemoon" wrote:

Well, I am not doing well. I am in horrible pain in my abdomen and under my ribcage and both shoulder blades. It hurts to breathe. I saw my doctor, who saw fluid behind one ovary and at my diaphragm. On the way to his office, I nearly passed out, was dizzy, sweating, ghostly white. It was so scary. He doesn't feel that I'm still bleeding, but that probably one of my ovaries was bleeding after the procedure. He doesn't feel it's anything life threatening, but offered to admit me to the hospital for pain control. I didn't want to go, but now I'm sort of wishing I had. I still hurt so bad and now we'd have to drop the kids off at the neighbors if my husband drove me to the hospital. My doctor is on call and said to call him if I want to go, but I am just going to try to make it through. I am taking pain killers and ibuprofen (which I just took-hope it works miracles)

My husband is not happy. I am not either. I am pretty sure this is the last straw, the final sign that I need to end this. I mean, I just want another baby, not a bizarre or crazy request, but it's just not working out. My husband would never agree to round 3 after this. We will see what we get for embryos this time, and one way or the other, this is the last time we are doing this. This is way too hard on my family.

I think I wrote this exact same post 3 years ago. You sound exactly the way I did the night of my 2nd ER. First the nurse tried telling me it was anxiety. After talking to my RE he said the same thing as your's did about the blood but never offered to see me. I still think I had a case of OHSS even though I had only 6 eggs retrieved. I was essentially bedridden until my 5dt because I was so miserable. I remember it taking all my energy to walk up the stairs. I could only sleep sitting up. I hope you start feeling better. If you need to go to the hospital to get admitted, go! I remember thinking I would never do it again with how miserable I was. But I did another cycle after.

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I hope you start to feel better soon. Hope your fert report is good and you never have to go through this again.

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Oh goodness Kara!! I hope that you are able to get the pain under control and that it subsides very quickly for you. Big hugs!

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Hi everyone. It was an eventful night. I went back and forth with my doctor twice and at 10pm he said I should go to the hospital for observation. I thought I could cope with the pain, which was awful, but was worried because I felt dizzy and my blood pressure was low (I was taking it at home). Finally, he said just to go. I didn't take any more vicoden or ibuprofen because I was going to the hospital and by the time I got into a room there, I was in so much pain and getting worse excruciating pains at the end of each breath and with movements. It was ridiculous. I felt better being in the hospital though because I was afraid I was bleeding internally and was scared something would happen to me. Especially after what happened in the afternoon when I almost passed out. So, I went, and got morphine and phenergan, and have never been more loopy in my whole life. I have no idea what family history I told the nurse :).

The doctor said I was bleeding internally, probably from the right ovary, and my hemoglobin dropped from last night to this AM. It dropped again to mid day today, but just a little bit. I guess the internal bleeding is irritating my diaphragm which is why I was/am having so much sharp back/shoulder pain.

At least I know I am not crazy and/or a wimp and there is a reason for the pain. It has gotten better, but I have been taking either morphine or a double dose of vicoden. I can still tell it's better though because yesterday medicated I felt worse. I hate taking stuff too. I've been sleeping all day because of it. I came home mid day today feeling much more sure that I wasn't going to bleed out and die. My blood pressure was good while at the hospital and the hemoglobin drop was only .2 this afternoon, so they let me go.

**whining ahead**
The doctor said of all the ER's they do per year, this happens to about 6 people. There are 6-7 doctors, it is a huge clinic so they see tons of patients. So of course, this happens to me. Now because this happened, there is no chance of trying round 3 if this shouldn't work.
***whining over**

Now, onto the good news. While my doctor was visiting me this morning at the hospital, he said that of our 7 mature eggs, 6 fertilized! I feel good about that. He also said the events of yesterday/today have no bearing on success of ET. I need all the luck I can get now that I am pretty sure this is our last go at IVF. My husband has already said clearly, no more after this.

As of now, I think we are doing a 5 day transfer. Please send prayers that the little embryos do well!

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Great fert report. Hope you are on the mend and have a smooth ET.

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I'm glad you made the decision to go to the hospital. Sounds like you really needed to go. How have you been feeling since being d/c?

Great fert. report. I hope you never have to go through this again!

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Goodness!! I'm so glad that you were able to get some answers and some relief. That's great about the embryos. Keep growing!! Continued T&Ps.

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I'm keeping anything remote to complaining on this thread. I am feeling better, but wow. It is just my abdomen now, not radiating to my back/shoulders and the pain is less intense, but if I am not dosing the medication every 5 hours, I still hurt, a lot and had an episode of dizziness/nausea this morning. Sad Spoke with the doctor this AM who said they would expect me to feel much better by Friday, but that this is expected after what happened. I've called into work the last two days so I'm mainly focusing on being useless at home.

I am so glad this is a rare complication, chances are huge that this won't happen to anyone else who is reading this!

We are still planning on a transfer Saturday, hopefully I am feeling immensely better by then!

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Wow, that must have been so crazy scary painful for you!! I'm so glad you are feeling better, but I hope you'll be able to recover quickly from this. Good luck on your ET!!

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OHSS is serious. I am glad you are being monitored. I had/have a mild case of it and that was bad enough. Has the doc talked to you about what will happen if you get pg with OHSS? Usually it comes back and stays through most of the first trimester. My ovaries were around 90mm each at the peek of my OHSS and are now about 40mm. Has you doc talked to you about staying on bed rest longer? gatorade? etc.?

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Not that this is foremost on everyone's mind, but yea!!! I am feeling so, so much better today. I haven't taken any pain medicine since the middle of the night and the worst is a very, very mild crampy/bloated feeling. The doctor was right when he forecast I would be significantly better on Friday! Feeling much better about hosting an embryo now. Transfer still set for tomorrow. Embryos still looked good as of yesterday, so we will see how things are by tomorrow.

Kadibug-I don't have OHSS at all, to my knowledge. I had an internal bleed from the retrieval on Monday. But thanks for all your advice anyway. Smile

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"overthemoon" wrote:

Not that this is foremost on everyone's mind, but yea!!! I am feeling so, so much better today. I haven't taken any pain medicine since the middle of the night and the worst is a very, very mild crampy/bloated feeling. The doctor was right when he forecast I would be significantly better on Friday! Feeling much better about hosting an embryo now. Transfer still set for tomorrow. Embryos still looked good as of yesterday, so we will see how things are by tomorrow.

Kadibug-I don't have OHSS at all, to my knowledge. I had an internal bleed from the retrieval on Monday. But thanks for all your advice anyway. Smile

I must have misread one of your updates. I thought you had fluid by your lungs and what-not. Oops.

Hang in there. ET is exciting!

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We transferred one blastocyst this morning. Per the doctor, statistically there wasn't a huge difference in success between transferring 1 or 2 (50 vs.60%), but if I did get pg, a 30% chance of twins. That was enough for my husband said absolutely no to transferring 2. The doctor was 100% supportive of that and said that with how well the freezing process is now, you really don't lose anything by freezing the embryos.

A very small part of me is disappointed. I wouldn't have minded twins if that's what happened. But, I know in the big picture it was definitely the right choice for us together. So now, we just wait and see.

The nurse asked me afterwards if I was excited. I said not exactly, because I'd done this before and it didn't work. She then told me she'd done 4 IVF's, then 2 IVF's with donor eggs and on the last one, got her twin boys. She said she just knew that somehow, she was just meant to have those two boys and wouldn't change it for anything. So I left the surgery center feeling so happy for this woman who had gone through so much. It really made me feel at peace with whatever was meant to be for me.

Will be resting here most of the next 3 days, so waiting for updates from everyone else!

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How exciting! Congrats on being PUPO

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Isn't it amazing how each clinic is so different. I went to my ET expecting to transfer 1 and we did 2... and it worked out the opposite for you. This might sound crazy, but the way I look at it is either it took or it didn't and we are just waiting to find out.

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"neoncandle" wrote:

Isn't it amazing how each clinic is so different. I went to my ET expecting to transfer 1 and we did 2... and it worked out the opposite for you. This might sound crazy, but the way I look at it is either it took or it didn't and we are just waiting to find out.

Child mentioned:

It is funny how each clinic is different. The doctor was happy to transfer one because we had several that were good quality, but his first recommendation was to transfer 2, freeze 2.

The real issue is my husband's firm resolve that we do not have twins. He doesn't exactly share my dream of a huge family. I do think he'd be overwhelmed by twins. He's always had cold feet when I've wanted to TTC, even with the first one. Of course he's always been happy when we get pg and he adores our kids once they arrive, especially as they are getting older. He also gets all worried about money, whereas I grew up in a family with 4 kids and we managed to make it work just fine. Anyway, I've known all along I wouldn't push him to transfer 2, I just wished he would have changed his mind.

The funny thing to me is that he gets so worried about it, confident that we would get pg with 2, as though I've been super fertile lately or something!

Good luck to you as you wait it out! Hope the time goes fast for you.

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Kara, we are sort of struggling with this right now, except in my case, we will have to transfer more than one due to my age factor. The question is whether to do 2, 3 or 4. We really only want one, twins would be acceptable but very risky due to the fact I'm a kidney transplant recipient, and no way do we want triplets or more. Sure, there's selective reduction but to me that's such a huge ethical dilemma that I don't want to ever have to deal with that.

Good luck!! Sending you sticky vibes!!!!

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Congrats on being PUPO!!! Sounds like you made the best decision for you and DH with transferring one embie. When is your beta?

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As long as most of you feels good about the ET decision, no regrets! I had to transfer more than one b/c my egg quality and quantity is bad. (bfp ment) We only ended up with one embryo in the u/s though.

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It sounds like you've been through a lot this cycle! ((HUGS))

Congrats on transfering 1 blast and having some left to freeze!! I'm sending you tons of sticky vibes!! Good luck!! Biggrin

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