Guage on your needle?!

19 posts / 0 new
Last post
Military Mom's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 2 months ago
Joined: 09/09/04
Posts: 370
Guage on your needle?!

OMG!! I just had my mom give me my first progesterone shot - and I almost died LOL I dont recall it hurting as bad - and maybe my husband was just better at stabbing me LMAO (which is possible because he has no fear, my mom hesitated) but it was bad - I bled alot for a shot and like I said I dont remember anything like that the last cycle (which was 5 years ago)... the guage on that needle is 18. Does anyone remember - or for current cyclers, what guage do you have? I swear thats bigger than I recall- YIKES!!

mrs.doolittle's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 11 months ago
Joined: 02/18/08
Posts: 1335

I can go back and look, but that would involve dragging a chair into my pantry and pulling my IVF box down from the top shelf. Did you switch needles after drawing it up?

DancingNancy's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 12 months ago
Joined: 08/30/11
Posts: 520

Yes! Remember to change out the needles. It took us about 2 weeks before we realized it. It hurt something fierce before. I think that the original needle gauge for us was 22 and then we switched to 25. I also used a rolled up towel to bite and that helped some. But really, changing the needles out helped SO much. Good luck.

Military Mom's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 2 months ago
Joined: 09/09/04
Posts: 370

What do you mean change out the needle? That was my first shot, brand new needle... am I missing something?!

mrs.doolittle's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 11 months ago
Joined: 02/18/08
Posts: 1335

There should be a larger needle to draw up the PIO from the vial. After you draw it up into the syringe, you should unscrew that needle and put on a smaller needle.

Military Mom's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 2 months ago
Joined: 09/09/04
Posts: 370

oooohhh, I see. Then how will I get the needles, call and ask for a prescription to pick up or can I buy them somewhere?

mrs.doolittle's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 11 months ago
Joined: 02/18/08
Posts: 1335

Call your RE's office. They should have included two different needle sizes. If they didn't, you should be able to pick some up from them or from a pharmacy. Tell your mom to just act like she's throwing a dart at an inanimate object. It hurts a lot less when they just go for it! Wink

Military Mom's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 2 months ago
Joined: 09/09/04
Posts: 370

OMG- what would I do without you ladies!?! I called and she was like you should have rec'd 22 guage in your package- I was like no just the 29 guage for the lupron and the 18 guage, nothing else. So she patched me into the Dr.'s asst to leave a voicemail and they are usually very good about calling back same day, really always so I hope today is no different.... That makes a huge different, at least to me... I was like wow- I know I dont remember it feeling like that before! Smile Thanks again!!!!

DancingNancy's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 12 months ago
Joined: 08/30/11
Posts: 520

I'm SO glad that you got it straightened out. And honestly, whenever you get the new needles, it will be a walk in the park (at least it was for me). When MIL did mine, she practiced on an orange (needle was filled w/ extra saline) and that seemed to help her a lot. Where are you doing them (as in what room of the house)? I found that if I could lean over the counter in the kitchen, it was the perfect height for whomever to stand behind me (or a little to the left) and like the PP said, throw it like a dart. Also, headphones helped me to go to my "happy place" and my DH or MIL or Mom would just tap me on the shoulder when they were done. And just to warn you, with the smaller gauge, it will take a tad bit longer to empty the needle - since the hole is smaller but the lesser pain is worth it IMHO. Sorry for the unsolicated advice. Hope it helped!

Jenn0113's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 10 months ago
Joined: 03/09/07
Posts: 5335

"mrs.doolittle" wrote:

There should be a larger needle to draw up the PIO from the vial. After you draw it up into the syringe, you should unscrew that needle and put on a smaller needle.

"mrs.doolittle" wrote:

Call your RE's office. They should have included two different needle sizes. If they didn't, you should be able to pick some up from them or from a pharmacy. Tell your mom to just act like she's throwing a dart at an inanimate object. It hurts a lot less when they just go for it! Wink

I was going to say THIS.

The more my husband acted scared the slower he did it and it hurt worse. Once he did it and then out of sheer reflex pulled the needle right back out and had to do it again. OMG!

Mandie565's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 1 week ago
Joined: 03/01/08
Posts: 693

I'm so glad your going to be able to get the 22g needles. I can't even imagine how much the 18g hurts.

My 1st round of IVF I stood up and bent over a counter and that works. This time I'm doing something different. I talked to a couple of different friends that are nurse's. Most of them recommend lying on your side and bring your knees up half way. Not a fetal position. Just enough that the butt muscle is pulled straight but not tight. The more bent over you are the tighter that muscle is and the harder it is to insert a needle into it. I've been lying on the bed or the couch and then DH either sits on his knees (next to the couch) or stands (next to the bed). Its been alot easier this round for me.

Did they prescribe you emala cream? Its a lidocaine cream that numbs the skin. I put it on an hour before hand. It doesn't make it painless but it helps alot! Also don't forget to put the progesterone in your bra and hour before hand to warm it up. It pushes alot easier when its warm!

Military Mom's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 2 months ago
Joined: 09/09/04
Posts: 370

Thanks for the tips!! I dont have any lidocaine cream bu t I wish I did... I amabout to take my shot now and I am dreading it just because of yesterday's BAD experience!

Military Mom's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 2 months ago
Joined: 09/09/04
Posts: 370

I am going to try warming up the shot tomorrow since tonight I just needed to get it over with because I had a few things to do but it was MUCH BETTER just with the change in needle alone!! You ladies are the BEST!!

DancingNancy's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 12 months ago
Joined: 08/30/11
Posts: 520

So glad it worked better for you!

meggyrn's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 4 months ago
Joined: 02/16/09
Posts: 2263

Everyone gave you good advice. Glad you got it figured out. I can't imagine getting a shot with an 18g. That's like sticking a straw through your butt.

mrs.doolittle's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 11 months ago
Joined: 02/18/08
Posts: 1335

"meggyrn" wrote:

That's like sticking a straw through your butt.

ROFL That comment just made me think of a Capri Sun straw.

meggyrn's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 4 months ago
Joined: 02/16/09
Posts: 2263

"mrs.doolittle" wrote:

ROFL That comment just made me think of a Capri Sun straw.

That's why I'm always thankful I've never had to insert too many 18g IVs into patients.

Military Mom's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 2 months ago
Joined: 09/09/04
Posts: 370

ummm yeah pretty much how it felt - glad I figured it out too because I was thinking maybe I should call and ask for the suppositories instead LOL I just think mentally I feel like if I did suppositories I would never want to go to the bathroom, walk around, I'd be like a kid that has to pee real bad all the time, legs crossed to ensure I am able to get the right dosage and it doesnt fall out or something LOL, now instead I just have a sore butt! Wink

Offline
Last seen: 4 years 4 months ago
Joined: 09/19/11
Posts: 141

catching this late but Holy Toledo..the 18 is like a light post Wink I would imagine you had a large hole after that..lol...I think we use 22 and up. I did learn a valuable lesson about the progesterone...neer refrigerate-it makes it 10x thicker and much more painful...whoops...now I know Wink