But Christi - we will be here to listen no matter how you are feeling from day to day.
And - can you post a picture of yourself? I know you have one in your signature and your avatar, but the both look completely different to me, so I want to see which one is more accurate HA
Christi, I had cramping until 6weekish (close to 7 weeks). I think it's normal and related to implantation. But it's great that the nurse scheduled the u/s and put your mind at ease. Can't wait to see it.
Christi- My kids are still dealing with a neurotic mom LOL
Here's a recent pic of me and DH at a Christmas party in December. Ignore my belly, it was super swollen from my IVF cycle and the spanx weren't working very well...
And yeah, I am still working on my IVF bloat 15 more pounds to go and I am DONE!
gorgeous photo Christi! And yeh, I'm still paranoid and neurotic and I'm 33 weeks! I don't think it ever goes away :?
Thanks everyone for your support. Yes I am TOTALLY freaked out by what the anaesthetist said! He was really great though and I feel comfortable that he will do what he can. I am looking into getting a doula (hypnobirthing isn't available where I live!), it's all money though! *sigh*.
My OB asked if I just want to book a c/s, I know that the spinal block works for me, they just like to avoid using that in a vaginal labor/birth. I don't know if I'm more terrified of a c/s or a failing epi! We have decided to induce as planned (either the 24th or 25th May), see how I go. I may cope a hell of a lot better this time *fingers crossed*. OB said that if I get into the swing of labor and decide that I DO want the c/s he'll do it. We both think that rushing into a c/s for a reason that may not occur isn't the best choice for me. I TOTALLY understand why other women choose to do it though!
As for the big baby! Sophia measured 3 weeks (I think) ahead at her 34weeks scan. Her femur was off the chart! She was born at 9lb 11 @ 38 weeks. That put her in the top percentile for weight and height. I don't know if it made her the size of an older baby, but she certainly has always had to wear sizes for older kids. She's now 26 months old and wears a toddler size 4! She's the height of your average 3 year old. I also have trouble getting shoes for her because her feet are incredibly wide. DH is 6'7 and has HUGE feet, I'm tall too. so its definitely in her genetics. Predictions are that this baby will be at least as large as she was, probably bigger.
Great photo Christi. You guys are a cute couple.
Christi, you guys are such a beautiful couple! And ya gotta love the IVF bloat....
Em -- we are booking the same doula we had for DD's birth, though she was a student at that time and we had her services for free. This time we're gladly paying to have her for this birth. But consider finding a student doula -- they have to attend a number of births as part of their training, so they would be free or cheap. Look into it! there must be a doula's association in Oz you can start with. Even if you can't take a course like hypnobirthing, just having an experienced person there to work with you at every moment is SO comforting, and the more you are at ease, the better you can cope with the contractions (working epi or not!).
Christi -- I too had some cramping at the beginning of my pregnancies, but they did feel a little different to me, not like AF, but just like my uterus was letting me know something was there. I felt it was reassuring, but I know everyone experiences these sensations differently. My feeling is that if you're on the crinone, you know it's not AF, so it _has_ to be more implanting going on. That's the only explanation. But don't worry if you need to freak out or be neurotic. We're _all_ neurotic. Really.
Christi-good to see you here! And funny about Spanx! I tried them while stimming, too...didn't work enough!! I was crampy until about 6-7 weeks...then it went away and I freaked out.
Jenn-Way to go on the weigh loss! Any tips?
Emily-Oh boy! You are going to have one big baby!! Do they sell Stride Rite shoes in the UK? My son also has extra-wide feet and we have to buy Stride Rite's $50-60 USD shoes....ugh! I couldn't even find him snow boots for day care and play b/c his feet are so wide, even Stride Rite doesn't make extra-wide snow boots! They figure they make them wide enough for thick socks...not fun! But Crocs work great for summer!!
Tamika-Your girls are beautiful!!
I set up my 1st tri screening for 5/10 and so I am looking forward to that. Thinking about taking Gabe to it so he oculd see the baby...he said he wanted a baby sister again last night...I asked him what he would name his baby sister and he said....."Chocolate Candy"...so funny!
Jenn-Way to go on the weigh loss! Any tips?
Jenn-Way to go on the weigh loss! Any tips?
Yep - start earlier than I did and try harder. Its been such a slow process. I gained 15lbs of IVF weight and then 50lbs of pregnancy weight. I've JUST got down to my IVF weight and Deacon is 17 months.
I used myfitnesspal(dot)com and I loved it!
A nice day today -- I'm really feeling movement now! I had been thinking I was feeling little tiny flutters for weeks, but not absolutely certain that it was the little one. But definitely today -- little twitchy flutters here and there all day. Very wonderful.
Very cool, Andi!! And how reassuring!!
Yay for feeling movement!!! I can't wait to feel something, just so I know everything is ok with them.
I officially graduated from RE!!!
I'm now off the estradiol but will continue crinone for 2 more weeks, which I don't mind at all. Is it strange to continue crinone without any more monitoring?
I have an OB appointment tomorrow and have no idea what he'll do. Only thing I can think of is go over the results of the ton of bloodwork I got done this weekend, and maybe setup the appointment ultrasound for the 12 weeks. Do they always use the dopplers at every appointment? I need to hear some heartbeats.
Andi ~ that's SO exciting!!
Dani ~ How did your OB go? Mine didn't start using a Doppler till I was about 20 weeks, but I'm really fat! He has an u/s machine in his office that he used every visit until we could hear the h/b on the doppler.
I'm now off modified bed rest again! I've been having more bleeding & show, but nothing heavy. I'm also having irregular contractions. damn painful! Baby Marcus has decided to flip and is now breech :roll: typical male! doing everything he can to make life difficult!
Emily, you deserve a blue medal in addition to your bundle of joy after this pregnancy!!!
Marcus better behave for the next few weeks and give you a little break. Poor thing.
My OB appointment is later this afternoon. I'll let you know how that goes.
I haven't checked in on this thread for a while. It's great to see all the recent grads in here. At this point my pregnancy is going great. I'm healthy. Baby boy is healthy. I had some problems with hydronephrosis (enlarged, painful kidneys) for months, but that pain has miraculously disappeared for the most part. I've got a noticeable baby bump and feel regular movement. I had spotting in the first trimester and it took a while for me to relax and feel like I'll finally have a baby in the end.
Dani...I had weather-related issues that prevented me from getting to my ob until 13 weeks, but ever since then he has used the doppler to check baby's heartbeat at every visit. It's very reassuring to hear that sound! I didn't get any ultrasounds between my last ob one at 9 weeks and a level II scan at 19 weeks. I don't even know if I'll have any more.
Emily...Glad to hear that you're off modified bed rest. Hopefully, Marcus will stay in there a while longer and will decide to flip on his own.
Andi...Glad you're feeling movement. I started feeling something that I thought might be movement around 17 weeks (almost felt like tapping in one spot a couple of minutes apart). It's so reassuring to finally feel something, isn't it? My placenta is anterior so for a while I only felt movement in one area on my left occasionally depending on how he was lying. Now I can actually see my belly moving.
augusta...Are you sure you aren't going with Gabe's name choice? At least your child would be the only "Chocolate Candy" at school.
Christi...Waiting to hear the results of your u/s! I also want to add that I had cramping for what felt like forever in the first tri along with some light spotting (which completely freaked me out). My DH remembers the phone calls from work all too well. I would be bawling and he would try to calm me down. It was awful.
Do they always use the dopplers at every appointment? I need to hear some heartbeats.
They did at each of my OB appointments!! It's always very exciting to hear the heartbeat Wish I had recorded the audio and put it in a build-a-bear.....planned to but it never happened!
Beth ~ Glad you are feeling better now and can enjoy the rest of your pregnancy.
AFM ~ Just came back from OB appt. We got to hear the heartbeats
As soon as dr put the doppler wand on my belly the first hb came up. Sigh of relief. Then he spent what seemed to be hours looking for the other one. Let me tell you, dopplers are nice and all but it's nothing like the ultrasounds. I think if would have held my breath a few seconds longer, I would've passed out. In the end he found it, but it was so faint I couldn't distinguish it.
I have to make my appt for the screening ultrasound in 1-2 weeks, so at least I'll get to see them soon and put my mind at ease.
that's awesome Dani!!
35 weeks today!
35 weeks is what the OB and I were aiming for, any extra time from here on is a bonus!
Beth ~ so glad your pain has calmed! Huge congrats on a baby boy!!
Dani, I am glad all is still well withthe twins!
Emily, congrats for making it to 35 weeks and beyond!!
Beth, how exciting to be feeling movement every day!!
Wow, so much going on, I hope I can remember everything I want to say....
Em, so, so, so glad you're off bedrest and you've made it to 35 weeks!! DD was born at 37 weeks to the day, and we were able to take her home, no problems, no NICU... so you're really close! You must be so excited!
Dani -- my midwives have used the doppler for every appointment from the beginning, though they weren't sure they'd catch a hb when I was there the first time at 10 wks. But because I have a tilted uterus and my bladder had filled up, everything was pushing baby forward so we found it no problem. Very wonderful, isn't it? Congrats on being d/c'd from the RE, too! I think when I was d/c'd this last time I was told to continue the crinone and estrogen for another week, then stop. I don't even think they drew any blood levels at that appointment, either, they were more going by the calendar and when the placenta should kick in hormone production.
Beth -- oh, you're having a boy! Congratulations! I'm also glad that your kidney problems are going away, what a relief. And I love seeing the belly move! DH was trying to feel the baby today, but he kept feeling some massive artery of mine instead. We'll get there...:)
Gotta get going... have a wonderful day everyone!
Em ~ Beautiful belly! And good job on reaching the 35 weeks!
Just scheduled my integrated screen u/s and bloodwork for may 10. In less than 2 weeks we'll be getting another peak.
Monday afternoon I was having a shower when suddenly I had a gush of bright red blood. *crap*. I dried & dressed myself, called the OB, he said to go to the hospital ASAP. Ben got home from work in 10 mins and we went in. By the time we got there the bleeding had stopped. I was VERY crampy and was having some small contractions. Baby's heart beat & movement looked good.
OB came to see me and admitted me. He said that often a bleed like what I'd had was a warning that another was on the way. He put a bung in my hand in case things got serious quickly. He said that he wanted to watch me for 24hrs after the bleed.
I was so worried about Marcus' health I cried at him to give me a c/s then and there. He of course, refused. Saying that he'd only do that if it turned into an emergency.
Uneventful night, lots of cramps but no more loss. CTG looked good. Saw my OB again in the morning he sent me for an u/s to check everything out.
The same sonographer who did my 34 week scan did this one. U/s showed no sign of a bleed apart from a dramatically reduced amount of fluid around the baby. It had more than halved. It also showed that Marcus' growth has slowed. At 34 weeks he was measuring 4 weeks ahead, now he's only measuring 2. He is still above the 97% though! He has moved to be head down again and looks good.
After the u/s I started leaking clear water-like fluid. I completely freaked. I was worried that I'd been told that there's less fluid around Marcus, then I start leaking more... total anxiety attack. My OB was called in to help calm me down. I was thinking, "my body has already killed two pregnancies/babies (ectopics), I can't deal with the thought of losing a baby at 35 weeks". I'm so very good at making a damn scene & thinking the worst! OB said that the fluid I was leaking wasn't lichor & my waters hadn't broken. He thinks it is/was some very watery mucus. He said that while my fluid levels were low, they are still within a normal range.
OB said that he wants this baby out as soon as safely possible. He said that at 37 weeks babies don't usually need time in NICU. So 37 weeks it is. He has changed his tune and is now really really pushing the thought of a c/s. He said that Marcus is HUGE, I said that Sophia was too and she came out. He thinks that a big baby, my stuffed pelvis, my screwy epi hating back & my anxiety all gave really good reason to do a c/s.
He said that of course, if I want to go induction route instead of planned c/s he would do what I want, but that he highly recommends c/s. He said that he doesn't usually do that.
I go into see him on Monday. I'll have a vaginal to see what my cervix is doing. He said that if it's firm and closed c/s it is. If it's soft and open we can try induction if I want. Either way, on Monday I'll know when I'm having this baby, It will be sometime from the 14th.
Now I'm really confused. Ben and I had a big chat about it. Ben is pushing for the c/s. He said that if that's what the OB says is best, that's what we do. I get that, I really do... I just, I don't want a c/s. I don't want the wound. I want to be able to hold my son after he is born. I told Ben that a c/s would mean A LOT more recovery time and me needing A LOT more help.
I am so confused.
Oh, Em -- I'm glad everything is alright, and I can totally understand your confusion. What a frightening turn of events!!
Well, if you would rather not do the c/s, you can always opt to do the induction first, and if that doesn't go well, get the c/s. Did your OB discuss that option? As I said earlier, my water broke rather early with Julia (at 36w 5d) and we wound up inducing at 37 weeks to the day b/c my labor never really started. She came out fine and we were able to room-in with her in the hospital and take her home without any problems whatsoever. So I wouldn't worry about the early induction or c/s in terms of Marcus' health. I think you need to pick the plan based on 1) Marcus' needs 2) how your body is doing and 3) how you feel. Did you work out a good anesthesia plan since the epi isn't a reliable option? And did you ever find a doula? That might help with any fears you may have if you do the induction...
Oh, Emily, how scary!! I agree with Andi...if you want to try a VBAC, I say go for it. If it doesn't go well, then you can always switch to a CS. I had a big boy (9#, 3oz, 22.5 inches long) and he broke his collarbone on delivery b/c he was so big. But he was fine, I was fine, and all is well. My epi wore off and it hurt like he!!, but not having had a CS, I am sure recovery was better than a CS. And I think they can give you a local to numb you "down there".
Godo luck to you...whatever decision you make will be the right one:)
I'm so sorry about all these events. I say trust your instincts, you know what's best for you and your baby. You'll be so relieved once Marcus is in your hands. Good luck with whatever you decide.
thanks so much guys,
Either way this baby comes out is going to be difficult. Vaginal ~ it will do more damage to my already stuffed pelvis. I've been told to expect a longer and more painful recovery. C/s ~ I'll have everything that comes with a c/s. Either way I'll be sore, either way I'll have an extended hospital stay.
This is deffinatley my last baby, so I don't have to worry about scar tissue etc. causing damage to my uterus. My uterus is already scarred. All I'm planning in the future is an hysterectomy.
I think that come Monday, if he still recommends the cesarean, that's what I'll do.
oh and 36 weeks today!!
Yea for 36 weeks, Emily!! I will anticipate Monday's posting on your path forward and Marcus's arrival plans!!
Awesome job cooking Marcus, mama! Can't wait to hear what the plan is.
Em, good luck with your appointment tomorrow -- whichever way you go, I hope that you'll feel comfortable with the options and decision you'll make, knowing that all is in good hands. I'm so excited for you! And good job cooking, Marcus!!
So.... we had our 20-week u/s on Thursday! It was a loooong appointment, not because anything was wrong, but because once the tech was finished with her scanning (which didn't tell us much, she said upfront she couldn't give us any info, including about gender), we had to wait 15 minutes for the doc to come in and have a look, and at the start of that he was confused about the due date because ... you guessed it, it's an IVF baby. What the hell, don't docs know how to deal with this? The guy had to leave the room to consult something and then come back to punch in a date based on LMP. Even though there's an option for conception date as well. You'd think by now these u/s programs might have options for IVF stuff. Anyway.... it was all fine in the end.
Baby is wonderfully healthy, measuring (still) about 8 days ahead of EDD, which the doc said was normal and totally fine, since at this stage the u/s is usually +/- 10 days in accuracy anyway. We didn't get to see the gender until the very very end (after an hour in there!) when he slyly typed, "I AM A BOY!!!" with an arrow pointing to the relevant body appendage!
Poor DH, he really wanted another girl, and yet so far throughout this pregnancy he's been saying he knew it would be a boy, life would hand him a boy. I post more about it on the September birth board, but it was really hard to see him so disappointed by it, given everything we've been through to have DD and now this little one. And I admit, I would have been more comfortable with a girl too, since I only had a sister and I have little experience raising boys. But I also love the idea of getting a chance to parent one of each, and I know the world needs wonderful boys and men, and that DH will be a fantastic dad to his son. I think he's getting used to the idea now, especially as we start playing around with name ideas.
Otherwise, my dissertation is stressing me out, but my advisor and I have worked out something to try to simplify it a bit, which on the one hand means a lot of work right now, but should make things easier later. Just gotta get moving on that stuff this week. And preparing for our trip to England next month!! And finding something to wear to weddings and my conference presentation!!! Trying to not feel overwhelmed. I have visions of one of the other professors in my department (a large, intense woman with a booming personality) who was supervising my research while I was pregnant with DD -- the research, ironically, had to do with reducing stress and burnout in medical personnel, but it was the most stressful research project ever. And this prof kept saying to me, "Don't stress out!!! THINK OF THE BABY!!!!" Which wasn't particularly helpful. I'm doing my best to chill out now, too... and I think I need to start prenatal yoga ASAP.
Andi~ Congrats on the boy and the great scan!! I'll admit I'm a bit unsure of the unknown about having a son too! haha!
I had my appt today, My OB has thrown me again.
Got there had the vaginal strait away. It wasn't nearly as terrible as the ones I had with Sophia. Apparently my cervix is very favourable for an induction. 2ish cm dilated, very soft, he could touch the baby's head. He said that he didn't expect that at 36 weeks. He then checked the fluid around baby by u/s. It is the same, I haven't lost any more. He is happy with this.
He said that especially given my cervix, he'd prefer to do an induction over a cesarean. At least attempt an induction over a cesarean. He said favourable cervix, low but still ok fluid wiped out 2 of the reasons to have a cesarean.
I didn't know what to say. I was pretty lost for words. I went in thinking that I was for sure having a cesarean. I had prepared mentally for a cesarean. I told him so too.
So we are now back to the original plan. Go in on Tuesday (18/5) morning for AROM. OB is confident that that should get labor happening. OB asked if I had any questions. I said to give me a day or two to process it all...again... and I'd get back to him.
He went through my list of wishes for the cesarean, he said that they were all reasonable and could be accommodated. He also addressed my questions about cesarean, he said that I may end up with one, but that at this stage, he wants to try labor first.
Now I'm scared and anxious about the whole no epidural thing again! GAH, it never ends!
Thanks so much everyone for your support! It has helped so much. 18th of May I meet my son!
Andi, funny about the IVF confusion...why do they not seem to get it? Ugh. I am sorry DH is a little disappointed but it sounds like he is coming around...little boys are so much fun and they adore their mommies:) I don't care either way, hubby would prefer a boy (but really just wants healthy), everyone wants me to have a girl, but another little boy that worships me would be okay:) More importantly, glad your baby is healthy!!
Emily! How exciting to have a date for induction! Are you okay with the vaginal delivery? Since you know you are having a big boy, has your dr talked to you about perineal massage? Sounds weird, I'll admit, and wehad quite a giggle over it, but we did it when I was pg with Gabe and with having such a big boy, I only had one little stitch. My Dr also massaged during labor (not that I could feel it, but hubby said he did) and I really think it helped. Something to think about.
As for me, I had my 1st trimester ultrasound today and baby looks great! She said baby has really grown from my ultrasound at 10 weeks, 2 days and I was measuring 7-8 days ahead. So, I think I am changing my gender prediction from girl to boy. Heart rate was 164. I have a prenatal appt next week, then another I am sure around 18 weeks and my 20-week ultrasound to look forward to (yea!)...can't wait to see if we have a baby boy or girl.
I've been trying to post here since this morning, but pg.org has been giving problems :mad:
Andi ~ Congrats on a boy! I'm sure DH will come around soon a love this little one just the same as your daughter. And good luck with your dissertation.
Em ~ Even though it's frustrating that doc is changing plans every time you see him, at least you have a plan now that is similar to what you originally wanted. And the 18th is right around the corner...so all this back and forth in plans will be worth it when Marcus is in your arms.
Augusta ~ Sounds like your appt today went great.
I also had my integrated screening this morning. Both babies are doing great, measuring right on track at a little over 2 inches and heartbeats 173bpm and 166bpm. They measured the nuchal fold and it was less that 1.7mm for both of them (supposed to be less than 3mm)
They were both moving and kicking a lot, but I still don't feel anything. I need to go back at 16 weeks for another ultrasound, which I think will be the anatomy scan. So, in 4 weeks I'll probably know their sexes and allow myself to start thinking about names:yahoo:. I haven't thought of any names yet, because 4 potential names is a lot to think about.
Here are some pics from today
Great news on your u/s's Augusta and Dani! I loved my first tri screenings, you really got to see this little being as a moving baby for the first time. And funny that you're measuring 7-8 days ahead, Augusta! I guess they didn't try to move your due date, then?
Em, I can imagine you're feeling all turned around -- especially with how gung-ho your OB was for a c/s last week. But I think it's good news, you can go ahead with your original labor plan. I hope you have lots of comforting things packed for your labor! Music, familiar pillows, and familiar people to support you. And what are your anesthesia plans right now? I don't know if you ever said...
Andi, my u/s is at an off-site place. My appt is next Tuesday, so we'll see what they say. I don't think they will move my due date. They are very into natural (my Dr is a DO and he is in with all midwives) so since it was IVF and we know the conception date, I think they will stick with my calculated date. Plus, I carried Gabe to 40 weeks + 1 day so I don't know if that means anything.
My good news is that tomorrow is the official 2nd trimester!! Woo-hoo!! And, best of all, I haven't gained 20 pounds like I did with Gabe in the 1st tri!!
Yay for the 2nd tri!!!! And extra cheers for the happy weight gain... I'm kinda afraid to weigh myself these days, though I know it's all okay...
Since I'm going to midwives, my u/ss have been at the hospital across the street, so they just do the looking and measuring and reporting and send it back to the midwives. There's little contact (or shared philosophy) between the two offices. So they can recommend changing the due date, but the midwives can just as easily ignore that. It's not always a great arrangement, because I've had friends who had u/s techs and docs freak out about the size of the baby and cause my friends to go into panic, and when the midwives get the report from them, they say, "This is all normal. You're fine. Don't worry about it." It doesn't seem very helpful, really. But since it's a birth center, and there's no doc on-site, it's not like they can do the u/s themselves.
The last couple of days I've had a pinkish discharge when I wipe. It's really very little and it's not there all the time, but decided to call the doctor to ask if I should be concerned about this. I was expecting the "it's normal and we'll see you in 2 weeks" speech, but was told instead that the doctor wants to see me this afternoon. This kinda freaked me a little as I've read here that as long as it's not bright red blood it's ok, and was totally not expecting the doctor to be concerned.
Could it be the crinone that's irritating my cervix? Thankfully my last one was yesterday.
I had bleeding on and off with this pregnancy from 12 weeks. Everything was ok apart from my anxiety!
I imagine because your pregnancy is twins and IVF your doc is just being cautious. ((hugs)) It is terrifying though and I know that I can't say anything to get rid of the fear! I'm so glad that your doc is being pro-active though!
Dani, I think you are right...if pink or borwn, proabbly ok. Bright red, insist on an u/s!! I can understand your worry...I am sure twins do tend to have more spotting, etc since there is so much more and your uterus has got to be growing much faster than with a singleton.
The funny thing is that, since it was so little, I really wasn't worried...I called them to let me know if I should be. I'm glad they responded this way, though. It reassured me that I made a good decision choosing them.
Anyways, doctor said everything looked ok and both heartbeats were found beating away. He said that it's more than likely the crinone applicator that irritated the cervix. Today I haven't seen any more pink discharge, so that's a relief.
great news Dani!
I had more monitoring at the hospital this morning, my ob is just VERY cautious with this baby because of all the complications I've had.
CTG picked up a healthy (asleep!) baby & lots of small contractions. I'm very crampy but not feeling anything extreme. Midwife said that she thought it was early labor! NOPE. NOT having baby until MY doctor is back on Monday. So girls, you have to cross your legs for me!
oh and baby has definitely dropped!
I'll have to organise someone to update here after Marcus is born! 3 more sleeps!
SO EXCITING, Emily!!! Can't wait to see pics of Marcus!!
Oh my goodness, EM! This is so exciting... hope you are getting plenty of rest and enjoying the calm before Marcus gets here! Can't wait to hear how it goes!
How exciting, Em!!! Can't wait to meet Marcus
Just for fun ... I'm having a baby today!
It's just on 5.30am here now, have to be at the hospital at 7!
crazy crazy stuff!
Em - that's great! Good luck and Congratulations!!!
Yea, Emily!! Good luck with delivery...I will look forward to hearing of your "baby story" and pics of sweet Marcus!!