Royal Jelly?...acupuncture?

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Royal Jelly?...acupuncture?

Ok, so not that I am being over confident... just overly excited LOL However, it could back fire and be a serious disappointment... I have been lurking on the August 2012 board. There was a post about Royal Jelly so I googled it. One even posted that she used it along with fertility treatment. I just wondered if anyone here had any experience with that. I kind of feel as though I am already taking so much medication that I really dont need to add to it and I dont even know if it would make a difference... anyway, just wondering.

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I don't know anything about that. But if you're looking to improve chances, I recommend acupuncture. I did it once per week for 2 months then 2 per week during stims, then right after retrieval and then after replacement. Then once per wk until 10 days to help with m/s and indigestion.

I know your FET is soon but you still have time to make a difference with it.

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"bluelotus" wrote:

I don't know anything about that. But if you're looking to improve chances, I recommend acupuncture.

That's my recommendation, too. I talked to my RE several times about adding alternative medicine to improve my success rate and he agreed that the only alternative shown to improve success rates was acupuncture.

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What is Royal Jelly supposed to do? I've never heard of it so I'm clueless.

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I take Royal Jelly Bee Pollen all the time, I credit it for my pregnancy back in the spring but miscarried, although not because of the Royal Jelly (I had a T13 baby). I've read countless forums on it and think it can be very beneficial. I've been taking it a lot lately because winter is here and at my last ultrasound they said my lining looks great. (I'm currently doing my IVF mock cycle).

Jennifer

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I have heard about acupuncture but I also did read it should be done prior to and all threw the cycle... I only have 3 weeks left. Is it expensive? Does it hurt? I always wondered!

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"Military Mom" wrote:

I have heard about acupuncture but I also did read it should be done prior to and all threw the cycle... I only have 3 weeks left. Is it expensive? Does it hurt? I always wondered!

Ive been seeing a TCM doctor off and on for years- lived in China for 3 yrs and now in Singapore for almost 3. It has helped me with a number if things- painful periods, insomnia even pain from sport injuries.

You still have time but need to start this wk. Find a licensed acupuncturist (I see you're in Cali- that shouldn't be too hard depending on which part) who specializes in women's health, specifically fertility. The doctor I used for IVF is not the one I go to for insomnia. Her clinic had what they called an IVF booster pkg- it was 5 sessions. She told ne just 5 sessions can help boost your chances. I recommend finding someone and asking them their thoughts. But according to my research, experience and taking to my tcm doctor, I say start thus week. You can go once this wk, once next wk, twice the week before FET and once more 2 days after FET.

It does not hurt. You may feel the current sometimes when the needle is inserted but just tell your doc and they'll adjust it. As far as expense, it's not cheap. Especially since you want someone specifically who treats fertility and/ART patients.

**pg ment**
But my experience with it is that it does work for many things and my IVF cycle was a success- I was on the lowest dosage of stims, got over 13 eggs, 8 fertilized, transferred 2 5-day blasts, 3 frozen blasts at day 6. Now expecting triplets. Is the acupuncture responsible? I dont know, but I do know it brought me peace, lowered stress, reduced the effects of stims and it is proven to help blood flow to the uterus for healthy implantation, which I had. It even helped with m/s through 10 wks.

I just really believe in it as it has helped me in many ways over the years. Whateve you decide- good luck!

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"mrs.doolittle" wrote:

That's my recommendation, too. I talked to my RE several times about adding alternative medicine to improve my success rate and he agreed that the only alternative shown to improve success rates was acupuncture.

"Military Mom" wrote:

I have heard about acupuncture but I also did read it should be done prior to and all threw the cycle... I only have 3 weeks left. Is it expensive? Does it hurt? I always wondered!

I did acupuncture the day before (or two days before) my FET and was supposed to go again the morning of, but I canceled the appt because I ran out of time. The cycle was a success so I'd say you don't have to have multiple appts.

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So I did it! I made an appointment for acupuncture! Smile She could have gotten me in on Wed but I have some family plans and then with Thanksgiving - PLUS I already have my ultrasound appt on Tues so it will be pretty much immediately following that. The inital appt is $100 and is 1.5-2 hrs long and includes consult plus first treatment then every visit after that is $75, does that sound accurate? Well then again, this is California- everything is much more expensive! I am nervous yet excited - do you think it will be ok to go once a week for the next couple weeks and then maybe the morning before the transfer? They do acupuncture during transfers but that is $250 appt alone! Yikes! Your thoughts?

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I paid $60 for an hour long session. After the needles are all placed in they leave you alone to relax - that's my favorite part! If I could get a full hour of that I would be in heaven.

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I used to live in CA and don't miss the high cost of living AT ALL. My initial appt. was $60 (maybe $65?) and follow-ups are $45.

Acupuncture isn't painful. If it ever hurts, let the practitioner know so they can adjust the needle!

I would have a hard time forking over $250 for one appointment. Seems like they have a high price for women who only do acupuncture that one time, maybe?

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That pricing sounds right. Even in Shanghai I paid $50USD and here in Singapore about $85USD.

I didnt know they did it 'during' transfer... Could be worth asking more about at your consult. But 2 days after treatment (or whatever your tcm doc suggests) is def worth doing.

I agree with Jen- those hour long sessions are heavenly- so relaxing and energizing at the same time. Really helps to reduce the stress of all of this.

Would love to hear about your your first appt goes!

Nicole

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Thanks for all the input! I am excited to try it. And yes the expensive $250 appt is for them to leave the office and go with your to your appt for the transfer - not sure how they would do acupuncture exactly during that but I am def asking just to see.

Bluelotus- I was in Singapore last year for a port visit and its really nice there but very expensive so I feel your pain Smile I did get some great foot reflexology there tho!

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"Military Mom" wrote:

And yes the expensive $250 appt is for them to leave the office and go with your to your appt for the transfer - not sure how they would do acupuncture exactly during that but I am def asking just to see.

Now that price makes more sense! My first acupuncturist was in the room during my retrieval just because she was curious to see what happened and I didn't care. She didn't do anything while I was in there though. Guess I don't know that for sure since I was so loopy, but she wasn't supposed to do anything!

I've often wondered if the deep relaxation wasn't what really helped. Having needles stuck in me while basking under a heat lamp on my abdomen sounds heavenly right now!